Dear George Zimmerman

[bhsmte]

It shouldn't but it does, I can see where you are coming from with that i really understand what you are saying. However when you say threat present what do you mean? Isn't a gun a real threat?

You know exactly what I mean. A gun is only a threat when it is in a position to threaten someone. Not much of a threat in a bag, now is it.

 

[Bedford]

Lets say he exaggerated the amount of times his head was hit against the cement and I will grant you he may have and even likely did. It still does not remove whether he had a reasonable fear for severe bodily harm (which by the way requires no injuries). If his head was only hit several times and he was being punched by someone on top of him (ballistics backed up his story of Martin on top and so did eye witness accounts) it is logical to conclude, he was in reasonable fear for great bodily harm. Each time you have a head blow (even a moderate one) you are dazed, because your brain bangs up against the wall of the cranium and this can create quite a fear in someone, when they are on the bottom and someone else is in complete control on top of them. This was also backed up by the expert medical examiner testimony.

The only problem was there was no report of a concussion.

 

[Bedford]

A gun is only a threat when it is in a position to threaten someone. Not much of a threat in a bag, now is it.

Yes, a loaded gun is always a threat.

Gun in purse shoots Starbucks customer after woman drops her bag


Gun in classmate's bag goes off, injures girl

 

[bhsmte]

Zimmerman has a history of being a "loose canon" prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting and I assume that his name will reappear in the future.

Among the 40 people the FBI has interviewed, I'm sure these folks were part of that and if not, will likely be. So, let them do their work on Zimmerman's background and I'm sure private investigators will be doing the same with Martin, in the event their is a civil case.

Put it all on the table, for all to see.

 

[Avniel]

You know exactly what I mean. A gun is only a threat when it is in a position to threaten someone. Not much of a threat in a bag, now is it.

You will never be able to prove that a gun in a book bag is not a threat....adding into personal history.....how was the firearm purchased......

Proving that a gun in a book bag isn't a threat will take one heck of an attorney.

 

[bhsmte]

Yes, a loaded gun is always a threat.

Gun in purse shoots Starbucks customer after woman drops her bag


Gun in classmate's bag goes off, injures girl

So, you are saying you can shoot someone with a concealed weapon in a bag you have no way of knowing is there, because the gun itself represents a threat that would justify shooting, even if you don't know it is there?

 

[Bedford]

So, you are saying you can shoot someone with a concealed weapon in a bag you have no way of knowing is there, because the gun itself represents a threat that would justify shooting, even if you don't know it is there?

You know exactly what I mean.

 

[bhsmte]

You will never be able to prove that a gun in a book bag is not a threat....adding into personal history.....how was the firearm purchased......

Proving that a gun in a book bag isn't a threat will take one heck of an attorney.

How would the cop who shot the kid in the back know anything about a gun he doesn't know is there, doesn't know how it was purchased or any personal history?

You have got to be kidding me? A first year law school graduate would have a field day on this one.

 

[MachZer0]

And Martin is still dead.

And Zimmerman is thankfully still alive

 

[bhsmte]

You know exactly what I mean.

No, I'm sorry I don't. The question I asked was simple and was related to this topic that was brought up by anveil, so what is your answer?

 

[MachZer0]

We know why. A stranger started following a teenager by a vehicle then on foot, around a neighborhood and the boy tried to stand his ground against this stranger and lost. Being dead, we will never know his side of the story.

Martin was not standing his ground. He retreated them returned as the aggressor

 

[MachZer0]

I think that is another issue I am having. The fact is dude killed a kid and it wasn't so much that he was innocent or guilty it was how white people rushed to their hero and supported him and even paid for his attorney.

How did you determine the skin color of people who contributed to his legal defense?

 

[Swim411]

Do you have an issue with black people this is an honest question one christian to another? I am not trying to be mean but I have noticed some of your posts regarding race seem to be a little......different....then most posters. I would really like to know how to interact with you that is why i am asking? If you say no you don't like black people or you feel XYZ about black people no one can report you because I am asking you a question. Just be honest and be real about it,

I think you have your answer.

 

[bhsmte]

I think that is another issue I am having. The fact is dude killed a kid and it wasn't so much that he was innocent or guilty it was how white people rushed to their hero and supported him and even paid for his attorney.

How do you know black people didn't contribute to Zimmerman's defense as well?

 

[MachZer0]

The Martin's had a son that died, he was killed no matter what the circumstances were(which we still only can speculate) I expect people to support them. Zimmerman killed a child if he was justified or not isn't the issue here but I just find it a bigger statement that people are willing to help their white brother that killed a person.

Why do people say Zimmerman isn't white?

The Martin's did not have a son. Mr Martin and Ms Fulton had a son. Ms Fulton kicked her son out of her house, abandoning her maternal duties. My hope for them is that they reconcile themselves to the fact that they failed in their responsibilities to their son and that they realize he was not the little angel they want us to believe him to have been. They need to accept their responsibility for his behavior that ultimately led to his death

 

[MachZer0]

Prove to me that Trayvon hit him at all?

See the evidence presented at the trial

 

[Avniel]

How would the cop who shot the kid in the back know anything about a gun he doesn't know is there, doesn't know how it was purchased or any personal history?

You have got to be kidding me? A first year law school graduate would have a field day on this one.

Top 10% 1st tier I'm kinda a big deal....barely study.....not really I busted my butt I could have done better but it's my laziness and the dual program is tough.

The cop wouldn't have to know that the kid had a gun you can not disprove reasonable when right.

 

[Avniel]

How do you know black people didn't contribute to Zimmerman's defense as well?

If we use common sense here what do you think the most contributions blacks made to his fund?

 

[MachZer0]

Prove to me that Zimmerman was begging for help? There is more evidence that states that it was Trayvon Martin asking for help and I am not talking about the testimony of mothers.

The fact is if a police officer is walking down the street and you have a concealed weapon and lets say he gets a funny feeling and you start to run and he fires a shot that kills you will that officer be charged?

Irrelevant hypothetical

 

[MachZer0]

I will continue to use the word because this word is typed from Martin's perspective and not your 'after the fact' perspective derived from knowing much more than Martin knew about Zimmerman. Martin believed he was being stalked.

Factually, it was Martin who was the stalker