Why do we want to teach our children science?

[Strathos]

So did Thalidomide.

Yes, in fact, the existence of thalidomide is confirmed by science with a level of certainty comparable to the certainty that evolution occurs.

 

[Split Rock]

Another claim made with no evidence, and mountains of evidence demonstrating that it is wrong. Who do you think you are convincing by making empty assertions that flie in the face of fact?

Interestingly enough, most creationists here claim they are not trying to convince anyone else. They are here to bolster their own beliefs and dogma. The more facts and evidence that disagree with these beliefs, the better. It means that their faith must be strong to stand in the face of all this Godless "Man's Wisdom." Either that, or they are very, very deluded.

 

[Naraoia]

There is no confusion...jpcedotal just couldn't care less about all this "evidence" stuff, or how old the Grand canyon is.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I'm still baffled as to what it means about "waters of the deep" anyways. Some mysterious ocean in the crust of the Earth that is larger than the reservoir of the oceans combined?

I know! I got it! The global flood was on Europa!

 

[TheBeardedDude]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I know! I got it! The global flood was on Europa!

It was a global flood of methane?

 

[ReverendDG]

I'm still baffled as to what it means about "waters of the deep" anyways. Some mysterious ocean in the crust of the Earth that is larger than the reservoir of the oceans combined?

Despite the bleating of creationists, the bible makes way more sense if you understand the real views of the people that wrote it.
The earth was flat, with the heavens above it, sheol below it and two vast oceans encircling the earth, one held up by s solid dome.

It makes sense when when you read about the flood waters receding, even ancient israelites understand how water works. Something modern creationists can't understand, or they wouldn't argue for sphere earth. It makes sense if the people back then thought the land was small so wouldn't need much water to cover it, a sphere earth takes improbable amounts and wouldn't recede anywhere.

The fountains of the deep was the vast waters below the israelites thought the earth floated in. They broke up through the ground, makes sense with a flat earth.

This is close to what all jewish people believed up mid 6th century, they called a sphere earth pagan blasphemy.

 

[TheBeardedDude]

Despite the bleating of creationists, the bible makes way more sense if you understand the real views of the people that wrote it.
The earth was flat, with the heavens above it, sheol below it and two vast oceans encircling the earth, one held up by s solid dome.

It makes sense when when you read about the flood waters receding, even ancient israelites understand how water works. Something modern creationists can't understand, or they wouldn't argue for sphere earth. It makes sense if the people back then thought the land was small so wouldn't need much water to cover it, a sphere earth takes improbable amounts and wouldn't recede anywhere.

The fountains of the deep was the vast waters below the israelites thought the earth floated in. They broke up through the ground, makes sense with a flat earth.

This is close to what all jewish people believed up mid 6th century, they called a sphere earth pagan blasphemy.

I understand that much as far as context, I just don't understand how one takes the same stance and uses the same explanation* given the knowledge we have accrued today.

 

[ReverendDG]

That the Flood was global.

Of course it was global!
It's just that you wrongly think that the writers knew the earth consisted of more than jordan, israel, egypt, syria, iraq and iran!
Which was wrong. The flood was global, but the earth was flat and consisted only of lands the hebrews knew.

There was no flood in most of the world because it didn't exist, they had no
Clue north america existed

 

[ReverendDG]

I understand that much as far as context, I just don't understand how one takes the same stance and uses the same explanation* given the knowledge we have accrued today.

Denial, stubborn refusal and ignorence of science, history, christianity and reality.

Sticking your head in the sand helps.

 

[TheBeardedDude]

Denial, stubborn refusal and ignorence of science, history, christianity and reality.

Sticking your head in the sand helps.

You'd think that if they stuck their head in the sand enough, they could see why the sediments show the history of Earth over the last 4.56 billion years as one WITHOUT a flood.

Maybe they are just sticking their head up a cavernous opening south of the border?

 

[TheBeardedDude]

I'm talking of course about this cave in Mexico...

 

[AV1611VET]

I suppose the "focus" is whatever you happen to want.

And in this case: the consensus, chief.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry for the confusion: I meant "what do you know that's true".

That the Flood was global.

 

[AV1611VET]

The focus was on "what's science",

No it wasn't.

The focus was on consensus.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

That the Flood was global.

*sighhhhh......

There's no evidence for a flood, chief. This is a mythical story. Nothing more.

 

[Naraoia]

It was a global flood of methane?

I thought Titan was the one with the methane oceans, and Europa and Enceladus the ones with water under a lot of ice. Waters of the deep.

 

[TheBeardedDude]

I thought Titan was the one with the methane oceans, and Europa and Enceladus the ones with water under a lot of ice. Waters of the deep.

Oh strudel. You may be right.

 

[AV1611VET]

Of course it was global!

Yup.

It's just that you wrongly think that the writers knew the earth consisted of more than jordan, israel, egypt, syria, iraq and iran!

Um ... Jordan, Israel, Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Iran weren't in existence at the time of the Flood; and wouldn't be for centuries.

And for the record, you left out the ocean.

There was no flood in most of the world because it didn't exist, they had no
Clue north america existed

This is true, but at the time, one could travel from [what later became] China to [what later became] California; since the earth consisted of one big supercontinent at the time (and the ocean).

Noah, in my opinion, lived in [what is now] New Jersey.

Placing him in Mesopotamia is a cheap shot that allows one to claim the Flood was local.

 

[TheBeardedDude]

New Jersey? I'm dying over here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm tearing up from laughing. Or are those tears because I am weeping for humani...nope...tears of hilarity.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sticking your head in the sand helps.

Where else are we gong to dig up your mistakes?

 

[AV1611VET]

There's no evidence for a flood, chief.

I've only been saying that here for seven years, chief.