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So, it's possible to market a subject such as evolution to the world, and best of all to schools and little children.

So's Law - When a response begins with "So..." the likiness that a strawman will follow approaches 100%.

But no, Oliver was a odd duck who was marketed to gullible rubes. Just like the rubes that show up at Ken Ham's Creation Museum and are shown velociraptors hanging out in Eden with Adam and Eve or are told that snakes have fangs so they could enjoy juicy fruits from the trees.

Evolution is a solid theory thus far unfalsified and buttressed by the discovery of DNA and the development of the Modern Synthesis.
 
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Think about it. Can your evidence fit in a box? Can you explain it all in a paragraph? Can anyone see all the evidence you have with their own eyes? No, No, and, No.

You can't see God yet you believe already in what you can not see with your own eye. You put your trust in Science, I put my trust in God. I read the bible and I am filled, you read your journals and are left with more questions.

That's true, but it's actually kind of cool in an intellectually challenging way. You just have to accept the fact that many of these questions will remain unanswered within one's lifetime. And I'm OK with that ... as I don't need to be comforted by absolutes....
 
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StormanNorman said:
That's true, but it's actually kind of cool in an intellectually challenging way. You just have to accept the fact that many of these questions will remain unanswered within one's lifetime. And I'm OK with that ... as I don't need to be comforted by absolutes....

No you seem to be enough.
 
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StormanNorman said:
Not at all sure what that means.

You can comfort yourself. That's what atheists do. As long as there is no God, then you don't need to worry about your sin.

But you know that's not true. You do worry.
 
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You can comfort yourself. That's what atheists do. As long as there is no God, then you don't need to worry about your sin.

But you know that's not true. You do worry.

So you think, because we are atheists, that we are incapable of forming moral constructs for ourselves? That is a pretty alarming belief you have there.

What, so you can say, with absolute certainty, what other people are feeling? Tell me, when did your deity give you this gift?
 
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You can comfort yourself. That's what atheists do. As long as there is no God, then you don't need to worry about your sin.

But you know that's not true. You do worry.

Well, first of all, I'm not an atheist. I don't know if a god or gods exist or not. Second, we all comfort ourselves ... when you go take a poop, you are comforting yourself. I honestly believe that religious beliefs are primarily motivated by the need to be comforted. I enjoy intellectual challenges .... I find them comforting ....sue me.

As far as worrying about the existence of god or gods, I think about it now and again .... but, not very often. :cool:
 
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LogicDreamer said:
So you think, because we are atheists, that we are incapable of forming moral constructs for ourselves? That is a pretty alarming belief you have there.

What, so you can say, with absolute certainty, what other people are feeling? Tell me, when did your deity give you this gift?

The Bible says:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23 KJV)
 
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StormanNorman said:
Well, first of all, I'm not an atheist. I don't know if a god or gods exist or not. Second, we all comfort ourselves ... when you go take a poop, you are comforting yourself. I honestly believe that religious beliefs are primarily motivated by the need to be comforted. I enjoy intellectual challenges .... I find them comforting ....sue me.

As far as worrying about the existence of god or gods, I think about it now and again .... but, not very often. :cool:

Atheist don't believe in the God I believe in; so my apologies for assuming you don't believe in my God. The point of my question regarding:

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. (1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV)

was to prove the existence of the Holy Spirit. You see for the above verse to be true, you would not be able to say "Jesus is The Lord", unless by the Holy Ghost (Spirit). And a person requires the Holy Spirit to be saved from judgement of their sins. An atheist or an agnostic would fumble on this verse as you have. Now I believe that the Holy Spirit could open your eyes to the truth and you would be able to believe "Jesus is The Lord", but that is to be seen.

When you do worry, count it a blessing as God is still working on your heart of stone.
 
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Atheist don't believe in the God I believe in; so my apologies for assuming you don't believe in my God. The point of my question regarding:

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. (1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV)

was to prove the existence of the Holy Spirit. You see for the above verse to be true, you would not be able to say "Jesus is The Lord", unless by the Holy Ghost (Spirit). And a person requires the Holy Spirit to be saved from judgement of their sins. An atheist or an agnostic would fumble on this verse as you have. Now I believe that the Holy Spirit could open your eyes to the truth and you would be able to believe "Jesus is The Lord", but that is to be seen.

When you do worry, count it a blessing as God is still working on your heart of stone.
Don't worry, I don't believe in your god concept.
 
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