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The Achilles Heel of Atheism

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Cearbhall

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God is all.
Who rejects all truth and demands the truth?
Why are you bothering to quote posts if you aren't responding to them?
This is the position most atheist's I know take on the subject.

Anyone claiming to "know" how the universe began is only telling lies.
I'm not sure I would call it lying, since some honestly think they know.
 
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Why are you bothering to quote posts if you aren't responding to them?

I'm not sure I would call it lying, since some honestly think they know.

I usually call it the illusion of knowledge. There is no knowledge though. In fact, there is usually so little beyond "Goddidit" that you can hardly call it a lie.
 
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Does it make better sense unto you if I said that the One that truely Created(Made) all is God?

What makes you assume it was a someone that created all? Do you have evidence for that claim?
 
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What kind of evidence are you seeking?
I would ask for something beyond "Because people whom I trust told me so." I see no reason to consider the accuracy of your religious beliefs to be any greater than those of people who are a different religion because they were told a different religion was correct. If you say that you feel it in your heart or something, that's great for you and I'm not trying to convert you, but you can't expect that to be enough to make me share your beliefs when people of every religion say the same thing.
 
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Would you consider me a judge? Does "witness" suffice?

No, witnesses are notoriously unreliable, and their testimony of little value in the absence of collaborating scientific evidence.

You made the declaration that this God of yours is "good". By what standard are you judging this God character?
 
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If one says they praise, and they do, who doubts that?

Please translate this sentence into English.

What kind of evidence are you seeking?

Something that would definitively link the God you claim exists to the creation of the universe as we know it.
 
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No, witnesses are notoriously unreliable, and their testimony of little value in the absence of collaborating scientific evidence.

You made the declaration that this God of yours is "good". By what standard are you judging this God character?

I worship(thank, serve(by the grace of God alone)) goodness.

May I now post whom ye serve?
 
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