Patrick - Just What WAS He?

[SQLservant]

Of all the ancient Christians outside the Bible, few are so readily claimed as their own as St. Patrick, the Apostle to the Irish. Catholics and Orthodox claim him as one of their own, as do some Baptists, Holiness, Pentecostals, and even SDA's. Common among these Protestant groups is the assertion that Patrick was "certainly" not the Catholic he has been painted to be, and that that Church has merely co-opted him after the fact due to popular demand or "Roman domination" or some such. My question is, when reading the two extant writings we have from him (leaving alone the legends and lives written after his death), where does the reader find that he was anything but Catholic (or Orthodox, as the two were one)? This rather bothers me, as I've heard it surprisingly much.

 

[SQLservant]

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Of all the ancient Christians outside the Bible, few are so readily claimed as their own as St. Patrick, the Apostle to the Irish. Catholics and Orthodox claim him as one of their own, as do some Baptists, Holiness, Pentecostals, and even SDA's. Common among these Protestant groups is the assertion that Patrick was "certainly" not the Catholic he has been painted to be, and that that Church has merely co-opted him after the fact due to popular demand or "Roman domination" or some such. My question is, when reading the two extant writings we have from him (leaving alone the legends and lives written after his death), where does the reader find that he was anything but Catholic (or Orthodox, as the two were one)? This rather bothers me, as I've heard it surprisingly much.

St. Patrick was indeed both catholic and orthodox. We Lutherans also commemorate Patrick, Bishop and Pastor, as the Apostle to the Irish.

 

[SQLservant]

St. Patrick was indeed both catholic and orthodox. We Lutherans also commemorate Patrick, Bishop and Pastor, as the Apostle to the Irish.

Hmm, with a green glass of that "Sin Boldly Lager," perhaps?

 

[Rhamiel]

that kind of confused me as well

I have heard SDA point to the fact that he had worship services on saturdays
but those would have been separate from the sunday Mass
anyone who knows anything about the Catholic Church knows we have Mass on days other then sundays too

 

[SQLservant]

I've always wanted to read Sister White's Big Book of How Things Really Went, but somehow, I've never been able to find a copy...

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Hmm, with a green glass of that "Sin Boldly Lager," perhaps?

Lager, yes; green, no. I believe it's a sin to contaminate good beer with anything other than yeast, barley, water and hops.

 

[bbbbbbb]

Lager, yes; green, no. I believe it's a sin to contaminate good beer with anything other than yeast, barley, water and hops.

What's your take on corned beef? American (Jewish) corned beef is red, but Irish corned beef is gray, and that is just the beginning of the differences.

 

[Knee V]

The objective reader will not find that he was anything but catholic.

 

[bbbbbbb]

The objective reader will not find that he was anything but catholic.

Yes, he was most assuredly catholic.

 

[Rhamiel]

you mentioned two writings from him
what would those be?

 

[SQLservant]

you mentioned two writings from him
what would those be?

Sorry I didn't see this sooner!

I'm speaking of his Confession and his Letter to the Soldiers of Coroticus. Both can be read here.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

What's your take on corned beef? American (Jewish) corned beef is red, but Irish corned beef is gray, and that is just the beginning of the differences.

I missed this... meat is always good!

You can have a lot of fun with a dead animal... washed down with Lager!