Noah’s Flood Confirmed...?

[RawScot]

I Think that the ice caps may have something to do with the flood in Noah.

 

[AV1611VET]

He'd probably make more of them. God seems to like abortion: What the Bible says about abortion

LOL -- from that site:

Abortion is not murder.

A fetus is not considered a human life.
If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. -- Exodus 21:22-23​

What's this then?

Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

And before you answer with something off-the-wall, let me remind you that this is Hebrew poetry we're talking here; specifically complimentary poetry (as opposed to contrasting poetry).

This means that the verse is in two parts. The first part states a fact, then the second part restates that same fact, using different words.

In other words: children = fruit.

Check out this next doosey:

The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old.

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6​

Yet, from the immediate context:

Leviticus 27:3 And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.

Does this mean the Bible places no value on people less than twenty years old?

Of course not, verse 6 has them valued at one month to five years old.

 

[Hespera]

I Think that the ice caps may have something to do with the flood in Noah.

The ice caps are built up of annual layers, dating in places back over a hundred thousand years.

what does that have to do with a story about a flood?

 

[scombridae1969]

...I’m sure the conditions in Noah’s time were different to ours...You are assuming the mountains were always this high. They weren’t...

Are you assuming an approx. 6000 timeline for earth's history a la Biblical literalism? If so, some things may have changed in varying degrees but there hasn't been nearly enough time for changes so profound that one could even begin to entertain the idea that a scant few thousand years ago the earth's topography was potentially so different that the conditions allowing for a global flood as described in the narrative of Noah could be possible. Not even remotely possible.

And, if one is take the Bible literally, there is nothing to suggest in the Biblical narrative that the flood also resulted in sudden, cataclysmic changes/shifts in plate tectonics so as to create areas like the Himalayas and the Eastern Sierra in California (as examples) in a matter of days. To believe this way requires a lot of speculation and is hardly Biblical in any literal sense.

 

[Ar Cosc]

LOL -- from that site:
What's this then?

Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

And before you answer with something off-the-wall, let me remind you that this is Hebrew poetry we're talking here; specifically complimentary poetry (as opposed to contrasting poetry).

This means that the verse is in two parts. The first part states a fact, then the second part restates that same fact, using different words.

In other words: children = fruit.

Or else the bible isn't completely consistent.

Check out this next doosey:
Yet, from the immediate context:

Leviticus 27:3 And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.

Does this mean the Bible places no value on people less than twenty years old?

Of course not, verse 6 has them valued at one month to five years old.

What are you saying here? The surrounding verses value lives as follows:

One month to five years old: 5 shekels for a boy, 3 for a girl
5 years to 20 years: 20 shekels for a man, 10 for a woman
20 to 60 years old: 50 shekels for a man, 30 for a woman

So no only are children less than one month old worthless to God, women are also worth less than men.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Or else the bible isn't completely consistent.



What are you saying here? The surrounding verses value lives as follows:

One month to five years old: 5 shekels for a boy, 3 for a girl
5 years to 20 years: 20 shekels for a man, 10 for a woman
20 to 60 years old: 50 shekels for a man, 30 for a woman

So no only are children less than one month old worthless to God, women are also worth less than men.

And IIRC blacks worth less than whites.

 

[TheReasoner]

In other words: children = fruit.

YouTube - Nom Nom Nom Nom, Babies! - PIcture Song

 

[grace24]

This assumes that all the land masses and topography that exit today existed in Noah’s day.

Can you tell me the difference it would make?

This also assumes that much of the land mass of Noah's day is not now buried under the ocean..

Let me see if I understand what you are implying. So, you mean that during Noah's day there probably be more land mass (such as other canyons or whatever) that are now buried in the ocean, thus leaving us with less land mass and goelogical features today? Am I getting this right? I just want to make sure.

This also assumes that old canyons are not now filled in by the movements of tectonic plates over time.

OK, I don't understand this one. Can you please clarify?

 

[Ar Cosc]

It could mean that Doveaman's God knew that he'd created people in such a way that they'd rebel, and so made an easily-flooded earth so he could kill them all at some point in the future. I honestly don't know hoe you could be a christian if you subscribed to that particular interpretation of the bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

It could mean that Doveaman's God knew that he'd created people in such a way that they'd rebel, and so made an easily-flooded earth so he could kill them all at some point in the future. I honestly don't know hoe you could be a christian if you subscribed to that particular interpretation of the bible.

Me, neither, if I thought like you do.

 

[Jazer]

There's not enough water in the world, either in the atmosphere, soil, or ice caps, to completely flood the earth.

The word is Adamah or the land of Eden. It was not the whole world that was flooded, just Eden.

 

[Nathan Poe]

The word is Adamah or the land of Eden. It was not the whole world that was flooded, just Eden.

Well then, as long as you didn't live in Eden, you were OK.

So much for paradise.

 

[Jazer]

Well then, as long as you didn't live in Eden, you were OK.

So much for paradise.

"Paradise" is still where farming began along with what they still call animal husbandry. Good that it was able to survive, because from there it spread to the rest of the world.

 

[sandwiches]

"Paradise" is still where farming began along with what they still call animal husbandry. Good that it was able to survive, because from there it spread to the rest of the world.

Tell that to the people who had been farming 1,000-2,000 years before the world was "created."

 

[AmyNMoore]

some have even said that the crust of the whole earth was floating on the water, and when the foundains of the deep broke, it caused what is now the tech tonic plates. all b/c of ps 24:1-3

 

[AmyNMoore]

also because in gen that i God placed the firmaments in the midst, and divided waters from waters. they think that at one time a ring of water was around the earth. so theres something to think on.

 

[Subduction Zone]

some have even said that the crust of the whole earth was floating on the water, and when the foundains of the deep broke, it caused what is now the tech tonic plates. all b/c of ps 24:1-3

Except that we know where and when the plates moved.

Spoiler alert! The break up of Pangaea did not happen 4,000 years ago.

 

[Subduction Zone]

also because in gen that i God placed the firmaments in the midst, and divided waters from waters. they think that at one time a ring of water was around the earth. so theres something to think on.

Again, no. There is no evidence of a flood 4,000 years ago. Six miles of water falling from the sky would have left evidence.

 

[Split Rock]

Again, no. There is no evidence of a flood 4,000 years ago. Six miles of water falling from the sky would have left evidence.

And broiled Noah and his family.

 

[AV1611VET]

Six miles of water falling from the sky would have left evidence.

It wasn't six miles worth of water from the sky.

I made the same mistake here:

I'm trying to ascertain the radius of a five-mile thickness of water, if it was sheared off at the earth's surface and ballooned out until it had a thickness of 1cm.

Can anyone help me with this?

In other words, with a starting point of 3955 miles inner radius, and a 3960 miles outer radius, how far out would this torus (?) of water have to be ballooned, in order for it to have a thickness (depth) of 1 centimeter?

I forgot about the water that came up from below as well.

Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.