Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder

[Bethesda]

We're not debating that, just saying I'm sure he was surprised. Another article I read said he knocked on the door and rang the bell several times, so he very likely assumed no one was there.

And we can assume rape and murder but I seriously doubt it in this situation. Everything points to a robbery.

Thats though working on a rational basis - a lot of burglars are on drugs etc and not acting rationally anyway.

 

[seeking Christ]

He's been arrested 6 times since 2008, I don't get why he was free.

Hey, its the way we roll

Maybe, if he survive this, he'll turn his life around.

I'm only being slightly facetious, but that would represent a failure of the system. Repeat customers are something every business needs! And our penal system is in the business of making their customers better criminals, and that is NO joke

 

[seeking Christ]

So we should let people own whatever weapon they want?

Got more non-sequiturs where that one came from?

 

[Lilly Owl]

Thats flat put paranoid delusion though.

If that's what you need to believe so as to live in your own little world.

People can find the recipe to make pipe bombs online. Do you actually think criminals go to gun shops and buy their wares?

 

[seeking Christ]

Lilly, the person you're trying to talk to speaks of weaponized ebola and calls other people paranoid

 

[Lilly Owl]

Um, sure?

When we were robbed they got in our attic. We came back from vacation to find out they had broken in and they pulled things down from up there too, including my moms coin and money collection.

I can understand if he hadn't knocked and rang the bell to assume he was after them too, but him checking first and them not answering really indicates he didn't know anyone was there. All reports also say he had a crowbar but not another weapon. I would assume if he was after people personally he'd have brought other weapons, like at least a knife or maybe a gun. And none of his crimes before were above simple assault, which usually means a fist fight.

He rang the bell, but once he gained entry he could have very well identified all the signs that people were in residence.

And a crowbar? Have you ever seen a crowbar? Do you know what the claw end of that bar can do to someone's skull?
Brandish that at an unarmed woman, or threaten one of her children with it, or hit one of the children so as to make the other child and the mom comply with all demands after that and it escalates way beyond simple assault!

And what's his prior's have to do with this? Is he docile or to be trusted because none of his other crimes (repeat offender!) escalated above simple assault? Heck, maybe he's moving up. Crowbars do not indicate an intent to simple assault.

What the heck is wrong with people?
They're actually giving excuses to this criminal for his behavior! As if poor baby got shot multiple times and he didn't really deserve it.

No, what wasn't deserved is a mom and two daughters being terrified enough to run and hide in their own home!
Which will never feel the same in matters of a safe haven again, thanks to that low life repeat offender carrying a crowbar!
Here's a major hint! Crowbars in the hand of someone who breaks into a home is not a benign way of saying; Hi, how ya doing?!

 

[Lilly Owl]

Lilly, the person you're trying to talk to speaks of weaponized ebola and calls other people paranoid

Good point!

My bad. Trying to reason with the unreasonable.

 

[JCFantasy23]

He rang the bell, but once he gained entry he could have very well identified all the signs that people were in residence.

And a crowbar? Have you ever seen a crowbar? Do you know what the claw end of that bar can do to someone's skull?
Brandish that at an unarmed woman, or threaten one of her children with it, or hit one of the children so as to make the other child and the mom comply with all demands after that and it escalates way beyond simple assault!

And what's his prior's have to do with this? Is he docile or to be trusted because none of his other crimes (repeat offender!) escalated above simple assault? Heck, maybe he's moving up. Crowbars do not indicate an intent to simple assault.

What the heck is wrong with people?
They're actually giving excuses to this criminal for his behavior! As if poor baby got shot multiple times and he didn't really deserve it.

No, what wasn't deserved is a mom and two daughters being terrified enough to run and hide in their own home!
Which will never feel the same in matters of a safe haven again, thanks to that low life repeat offender carrying a crowbar!
Here's a major hint! Crowbars in the hand of someone who breaks into a home is not a benign way of saying; Hi, how ya doing?!

Signs of evidence of residence? Do you mean like a steaming cup of coffee or ashtray with the cigarette still lit? If they weren't there and being quiet in the attic, I'm not sure how he could have known they were there outside clues used in detective shows.

I think you're reading too much into what I'm saying.

I'm not condoning anything he's done, I'm just saying it looks like it was going to be a robbery and there's no evidence of rape or murder. Sure both could have happened, but when you add up the facts that we do have, looks like he was there to burglarize the house and didn't think anyone was home.

What's wrong with stating this? I never said she shouldn't have shot him, but it seems people are adding more and more into this story that we have no indication of.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

So we should let people own whatever weapon they want?

A weapon to protect them self .Yes. A gun for target shotting. Yes we have to be allowed to have our fun. If cops find bombs in the home . No

 

[seeking Christ]

Here's a major hint! Crowbars in the hand of someone who breaks into a home is not a benign way of saying; Hi, how ya doing?!

True enough, but the man could've laid the crowbar on the ground and still posed just as much threat, if the woman had been unarmed. Heck, he could've handed the crowbar to her, and still been just as much of a threat! His mere presence in the home is threatening. I'm just glad he has to face trial, and the shooter is free.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

Hey, its the way we roll



I'm only being slightly facetious, but that would represent a failure of the system. Repeat customers are something every business needs! And our penal system is in the business of making their customers better criminals, and that is NO joke

Sadly this is true, what ever happened to 3 stikes and your out. This woman should be able to sue, since this was allowed this to happen, he was a repeat offender.

 

[seeking Christ]

Sadly this is true, what ever happened to 3 stikes and your out. This woman should be able to sue, since this was allowed this to happen, he was a repeat offender.

I hate the idea of suing some municipality because this guy was on the street. Press the perp with a civil suit, for damages? Sure. Gives new meaning to the phrase "add insult to injury"

I'm actually happy to see him survive the ordeal, just so he can go through the stress of being prosecuted. I only hope the court system isn't lenient on him because he's injured.

 

[JCFantasy23]

Sadly this is true, what ever happened to 3 stikes and your out. This woman should be able to sue, since this was allowed this to happen, he was a repeat offender.

I don't think it applies, the justice system is bizarre.

 

[Billnew]

why this guy didnt ring the doorbell. hard way to learn a lesson.

He knocked and rang the doorbell.

The mom heard knocks on her front door Friday and assumed it was just a solicitor, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.
She told her 9-year-old twins not to answer the door and, when the visitor began repeatedly ringing the doorbell, she called her husband at his job and he told her to gather the children and hide.

Read more: Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder | Fox News

Way to show the love of Jesus!





Bolding mine.

Jesus knows there is garbage in the world. He might never give up on crooks, I'd say God has plans on earth for this one, since 5 shots in kill zones and he survived.

He took five shots and was no longer a threat. No more bullets were needed. Because what is the intent of using a firearm in self-defense? To stop your attacker, or to kill your attacker? I understand that the first may require the second, but in this case it did not. Why would any more rounds have been necessary?

As others have said, if he brought a friend she would need more bullets, if he was faking it, fearing more rounds, and then realized she fired all bullets, he could have come after her.
Security is a loaded gun, security is not a bleeding breathing intruder with an empty gun.
If she fired 6, would she have stopped if she had more? She might have fired until empty no matter how many bullets she had.
she could easily fire 6 before he could have dropped, she could probably fired 10 before he hit the floor, depending on how fast she pulled the trigger, she might have been able to empty a high cap mag in him before his body realized it was seriously injured.
The benefits of a magnum, a person knows they have been hit, the draw back, takes more time to put the barrel back on target.
Some women might have trouble firing a magnum though.

Trying to find CNN's report on this story, anyone find it?

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

He took five shots and was no longer a threat. No more bullets were needed. Because what is the intent of using a firearm in self-defense? To stop your attacker, or to kill your attacker? I understand that the first may require the second, but in this case it did not. Why would any more rounds have been necessary?

What if he took seven shots? Most revolvers hold five or six shots.

 

[JCFantasy23]

What if he took seven shots? Most revolvers hold five or six shots.

Clearly the guy was meant to live - he took four shots to the face and neck already. Seven shots I would think would definitely kill him. Then again I would think four shots to the face and neck would definitely had done it too. He never even lost conscientiousness and drove away, pretty amazing.

I remember reading this story years ago about this poor woman. This guy had her and her kids in the car and he shot her in the mouth, the neck, and above the eye and she survived. How that's possible I don't know. She could never talk again, and he killed her daughters too but she lived.

 

[Glas Ridire]

Clearly the guy was meant to live - he took four shots to the face and neck already. Seven shots I would think would definitely kill him. Then again I would think four shots to the face and neck would definitely had done it too. He never even lost conscientiousness and drove away, pretty amazing.

I remember reading this story years ago about this poor woman. This guy had her and her kids in the car and he shot her in the mouth, the neck, and above the eye and she survived. How that's possible I don't know. She could never talk again, and he killed her daughters too but she lived.

The body is an amazing thing. I have scars from both shrapnel and projectiles in my face. My body, the last time the government looked to record scars they shrugged shoulders and just noted "many" I have walked though fire-zones, I have taken bullets, blades, everything for a nation I love. I have holes I can't hide, the checkout girl at the grocery sees them. When I think what it would take to stop me . . . . well a single shot never got it and I have bludgeoned a man or two to death with the "assault rifle" he might have liked to kill me with. I ain't no average guy though. I can walk through a rain of lead and make my enemy's widows weap. It isn't because they never hit me. I have blood on lead the docs have pulled out. Point being, citizens should never be regulated by law to have less protection, duller knives, slower guns. ... . . it contrasts starkly with the Constitution & anyone advocating More gun control should be extracted from politics and placed firmly in the career of "da ya wan fries wi'd dat" because clearly that is the whole and sum of their ability to listen and reason. That is kind, really they should be culled from the herd as unfit.

 

[Elife3]

This is a case where guns SAVE lives. I don't know if they are a private news source. Stuff like this usually isn't reported in the mainstream media. Either way, props to the mother for protecting her family and props to the news station that reported this.

 

[Supreme]

It's good to see guns being used positively for a change. Clearly, having a gun saved this woman and her children from something much worse, and had she not had the weapon, I certainly think this story would have had a far sadder ending than an injured perpetrator.

 

[seeking Christ]

Well even if he meant no personal harm, the very best case scenario if she were unarmed would have been he freaked out, and got away. This way he will stand trial.