CHRISTIANITY and CAPITALISM versus MARXISM and the GREEN AGENDA

[waves]

We are in a battle in America between the faith, beliefs, and principles
of our Founding Fathers and the faith, beliefs, and principles of the
worst butchers in history, including Vladimir Lenin and Adolf Hitler.


CHRISTIANITY and CAPITALISM versus MARXISM and the GREEN AGENDA

 

[abdAlSalam]

Are we not the shepherds of the World? Should we abuse the Earth for our own selfish gain? Shouldn't green initiatives be a way to harness the power given to us by Allah?

Allah gave us the world, and it is up to us to use the World responsibly.

 

[stamperben]

We are in a battle in America between the faith, beliefs, and principles
of our Founding Fathers and the faith, beliefs, and principles of the
worst butchers in history, including Vladimir Lenin and Adolf Hitler.


CHRISTIANITY and CAPITALISM versus MARXISM and the GREEN AGENDA

So the battle is between those forces who committed genocide on a native people in the push westward, or a commie who wanted equality for people who you lump in with a despot who also committed genocide against a race of people.

I'll pass.

 

[Blayz]

That battle's just in your head mate.

 

[Thekla]

"The earth is the Lord's,
and the fullness thereof, the world and all that dwell therein.
For He has founded it upon the seas,
and upon the rivers He hath prepared it." Psalm 24

As Christians, is not stewardship of what belongs to God part of our responsibility ?

 

[grasping the after wind]

I think there is a battle of visions but it is not as simple as one side vs the other. Christianity faces multiple world views that are at odds with it. Although I find capitalism mostly harmless and not truly a philosophy merely an economic model that has evolved over time, there is a hedonistic and self centered aspect to those like Ayn Rand that would put it in the same category as a philosophy that is not in any way in keeping with the tenets of Christianity.

 

[LionofJudahDK]

So the battle is between those forces who committed genocide on a native people in the push westward,

American nationalism isn't = Christianity and capitalism

or a commie who wanted equality for people who you lump in with a despot who also committed genocide against a race of people.

Because that commie (who most certainly was also a despot) acted with no less brutality than the Tsar ever did, and organized a system that rivalled Hitler's in brutality and inhumanity.
The "Lenin wasn't too bad...it was only Stalin who was the problem"-bovine manure is getting old, and people should stop buying it.

 

[Illuminaughty]

Don't forget Muslim too. The Communist environmentalist shariah caliphate. It's the biggest problem out there. Makes things like hunger, poverty, and world peace pale in comparison.

 

[stamperben]

American nationalism isn't = Christianity and capitalism



Because that commie (who most certainly was also a despot) acted with no less brutality than the Tsar ever did, and organized a system that rivalled Hitler's in brutality and inhumanity.
The "Lenin wasn't too bad...it was only Stalin who was the problem"-bovine manure is getting old, and people should stop buying it.

You conveniently ignore the similarities between the genocide in the Americas and the genocide in Europe. It's rather telling that you did that.

 

[stamperben]

the "faith, beliefs and principles" of the founders in the USA was in fact behind the decimation of the native population here. To say different is to try to play See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil. You don't succeed.

 

[Grizzly]

Ah yes. Christianity and capitalism. The two go so well together. I'm pretty sure it goes all the way back to Jesus's time when he encouraged people to set up banks and lending businesses right near Holy Temples.

 

[Redac]

We are in a battle in America between the faith, beliefs, and principles
of our Founding Fathers and the faith, beliefs, and principles of the
worst butchers in history, including Vladimir Lenin and Adolf Hitler.


CHRISTIANITY and CAPITALISM versus MARXISM and the GREEN AGENDA

Only Marxists care about the environment? What a revelation.

 

[LionofJudahDK]

You conveniently ignore the similarities between the genocide in the Americas and the genocide in Europe. It's rather telling that you did that.

What are you smoking? That didn't make any sense at all!

the "faith, beliefs and principles" of the founders in the USA was in fact behind the decimation of the native population here.

The reason for the decimation of the Native Americans (those that didn't succumb to unintended effects of imported diseases, industrial-scale hunting of buffalos, etc) was Manifest Destiny. And there's nothing inherently Christian in nationalism. That's not to say that Christians can't be nationalists, but to say that you can't blame Christianity for what happens when nationalism has horrible consequences.

 

[LionofJudahDK]

Only Marxists care about the environment? What a revelation.

Guess that's why the Soviet Union was so much into environmentalism....

 

[kermit]

Only Marxists care about the environment? What a revelation.

Marxists like Teddy Rosevelt and Richard Nixon.

 

[Grizzly]

Marxists like Teddy Rosevelt and Richard Nixon.

Ah yes. Comrades Roosevelt and Nixon. Men dedicated to the Revolution.

 

[Paradoxum]

How can anyone think these people are worth listening to?

There is only capitalism (GOOD) and Communism (BAD), and anything in between is Communist (BAD).

 

[Thekla]

The Ecumenical Patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, +Bartholomew, is known as the "green Patriarch".

And he's not a communist

 

[Museveni]

Actully christianity gave birth by proxy to authoritarian systems like Facism and Communism by spending the years 100-1700 instiling a culture of authoritarian beliefs and moral leashes telling people whats "right and wrong" causing any new political or ideological systems to follow suit. All this while places with limited church influences or where the church where placed under the government ended up giving birth to liberalism and capitalism (like the UK).

 

[LionofJudahDK]

Actully christianity gave birth by proxy to authoritarian systems like Facism and Communism by spending the years 100-1700 instiling a culture of authoritarian beliefs and moral leashes telling people whats "right and wrong" causing any new political or ideological systems to follow suit. All this while places with limited church influences or where the church where placed under the government ended up giving birth to liberalism and capitalism (like the UK).

So.....Christianity leads to authoritarianism...
Would you then care to explain the authoritarian nature of Imperial China, or Imperial Japan? There's "authoritarian" for you, and neither place did Christianity have much influence.