Yahweh, Yeshua - Who are they?

[Eliyah]

Isaiah 43:3 For I am the LORD(YAHWEH) thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD(YAHWEH); and beside me there is no saviour.Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD(YAHWEH)? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.Isaiah 49:26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD(YAHWEH) am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.Isaiah 60:16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD (YAHWEH)am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of JacobIsaiah 43:3 For I am the LORD(YAHWEH) thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD(YAHWEH); and beside me there is no saviour.Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD(YAHWEH)? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.Isaiah 49:26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD (YAHWEH)am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.Isaiah 60:16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD (YAHWEH)am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob

Who is the savior, redeemer, the holy one of Israel, as Acts 10:43 says of all the prophets? Who is Yahweh our righteousness Jeremiah 23:5-6?

 

[Keachian]

That is not inaccurate either, go back and re-read my link articles,you still accept a fake when you know its a fake savior I alreasy proved that yesterday..

Having looked up what the Jeremiah verse says you're still completely misinterpreting the Hebrew word shem, even in a language as limited as English the word name does not just mean proper noun, or else the phrase "he made a name for himself..." doesn't make sense, you are limiting the scope of a word from its likely intended meaning, though I will retract that slavishly interpreting the verse as you are would actually yield Yahweh Tsidqenu

 

[Keachian]

In reference to the Isaiah passage I posted earlier it does not anywhere say Yahwehshua

 

[Eliyah]

Will you avoid this too?

 

[Keachian]

That is not inaccurate either, go back and re-read my link articles,you still accept a fake when you know its a fake savior I alreasy proved that yesterday..

You have proven nothing, slavishly stating mere opinion as fact when it boils down to a gross mishandling of the evidence plassed off as Holy Writ does not prove anything, you obviously have no grasp of the Hebrew language let alone a grasp of linguistics in general, you also have no understanding of Theology otherwise you wouldn't be operating under the false supposition that the Father's name is Yahweh, the only moniker which is the Father's alone is Abba. You have also fundamentally failed to prove that your little God who cannot comprehend anything other than Hebrew is the Yahweh found in the Bible, nor have you even come close to showing that the only way to heaven is through the magical incantations that you endorse.

 

[Eliyah]

Progmonk, I'm not judging you, I know its hard for you to understand this, but, go look up the new and old testament texts, pray on it.

 

[Eliyah]

your avoiding every text i give, your not interested in truth, you only want to win an argument.

 

[Eliyah]

I had to disprove you when I first came here on =the LXX, and correct you on that. Now you accept Yahweh. What a pity, your pride is clouding your understanding.

 

[Eliyah]

if i did not love you and care for you, why would I spend all this time to show you all these scriptural texts, that you have been avoiding?

 

[Keachian]

Progmonk, I'm not judging you, I know its hard for you to understand this, but, go look up the new and old testament texts, pray on it.

your avoiding every text i give, your not interested in truth, you only want to win an argument.

I have read every prooftext you have thrown at me and fundamentally it comes down to you not understanding how the word "name" works, how it is used throughout scripture, the way it is used in the story of the tower of Babel destroys your insistence that it can only mean proper noun, but then I guess you're one of those first usage type people.

 

[Eliyah]

it is 6:52 AM here, and you avoid all these texts. i'm gonna go sleep a while

 

[Eliyah]

I very well understand name in Hebrew and in 30 other languages, your avoiding the texts, you want even quote them. Don't come at me with your proof text hog wash, that don't slide with me.

Every prophet in scriptures gives witness to ONLY ONE NAME as the savior, redeemer, holy one, as Avts 10:43 says, and that is YAHWEH.

 

[Keachian]

if i did not love you and care for you, why would I spend all this time to show you all these scriptural texts, that you have been avoiding?

Oh I don't think you do not love me, you're just wrong, you have had your eyes covered up and your ears stoppered, you deny that Yahweh has proved his power and authority over all language through the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2, you deny that Yahweh has the ability to look into all men's hearts as attested to in the prophets and writings of Paul, you deny that Yahweh has chosen those who follow him again as attested to in the prophets and by Paul. One would think that the combination of these things, with the reverence for Yahweh that can only come from Yahweh himself would blow these foolish and magical incantations out of the water yet you still cling to them as if they have some form of meaning.

 

[Eliyah]

Yahweh's name is His memorial mark of authority and charactor of power, so is Messiah's name as Yahweh too.

You did not even belirve in Yahweh when I frist came here, you would scarcely use it, after I showed you it was in the FIRST LXX, and so is the true Messiah's name of Yahweh too;

Ha Ha.

 

[Eliyah]

Yahweh will not look in men's heart, if man wilfully sins/ ie breaks His laws, Sin cuts man off from Yahweh. Yahweh says through Jeremiah mans heart is despartely wicked and decietful who can know it. And if you truely knew Yahweh, you wold also know that Yahweh Fatherd Messiah, which entitles Messiah to atain His Father's sur name of Yahweh as He qualified in full after His resurrection.

You tallk foolishly, anyone knows, begetal imparts the Father's charactor, so is the same with man as well.

Your wrong again.

 

[Eliyah]

I'm tired of correcting a childish 20 year old.

 

[Keachian]

Yahweh's name is His memorial mark of authority and charactor of power, so is Messiah's name as Yahweh too.

You did not even belirve in Yahweh when I frist came here, you would scarcely use it, after I showed you it was in the FIRST LXX, and so is the true Messiah's name of Yahweh too;

Ha Ha.

I have always believed in Yahweh, in fact my first post in this thread displays an understanding of the personal name Yahweh, yes I would scarcely use it, I decided that I would follow Paul's example and be all things to all men, in this case it means using it in discussion with you.

 

[Keachian]

I'm tired of correcting a childish 20 year old.

I wasn't aware I was being childish, you have yet to adequately prove to me that your magical incantations are the way to heaven and I'm calling you on it. It's unbiblical! You have to show me that I'm not saved by grace, you cannot do that! You have no basis for your twisted understanding of any relevant area of study.

 

[Mark_Sam]

I still cannot wrap my head around the fact that the New Testament, in its original language, blasphemes our Savior by calling him a horse and the son of Zeus:

και ιδου συλλημψη εν γαστρι και τεξη υιον και καλεσεις το ονομα αυτου ιησουν - Luke 1:31 (Westcott-Hort 1881)


και ουκ εγινωσκεν αυτην εως [ου] ετεκεν υιον και εκαλεσεν το ονομα αυτου ιησουν - Matthew 1:25

αρχη του ευαγγελιου ιησου χριστου - Mark 1:1

Certainly the Gospel writers didn't think it was such a big deal.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I still cannot wrap my head around the fact that the New Testament, in its original language, blasphemes our Savior by calling him a horse and the son of Zeus:

και ιδου συλλημψη εν γαστρι και τεξη υιον και καλεσεις το ονομα αυτου ιησουν - Luke 1:31 (Westcott-Hort 1881)


και ουκ εγινωσκεν αυτην εως [ου] ετεκεν υιον και εκαλεσεν το ονομα αυτου ιησουν - Matthew 1:25

αρχη του ευαγγελιου ιησου χριστου - Mark 1:1

Certainly the Gospel writers didn't think it was such a big deal.

I'm gathering that Eliyahu fancies himself the return of Elijah, a prophet in this modern time, to show us the error of our ways and return us to God. As such, facts are meaningless.

For example, the Greek text is meaningless, because--from what I've gathered--it's a Roman Catholic invention. Eliyahu, however, knows better because God specifically told him so.

Etc.

We're dealing with someone who clearly has far worse issues going on than simple ignorance of language and linguistics.

-CryptoLutheran