Creationism is Inappropriate for Children

[SithDoughnut]

What do you think about homeschooling? The majority of homeschooled people I've known have been taught by very conservative parents who tend to be creationists. Evolution science is covered in the sense that it's taught as being untrue and without merit.

If the parents can teach a child well enough that they can get the qualifications that children who go to school do, then they're doing their job. That said, I wouldn't depend on any parent who thinks that evolutionary science is without merit to teach their child correctly - their view shows an obvious lack of knowledge on the subject. If they disagree, then fine, but to view it as without any merit at all requires a lack of understanding. Those parents are harming their children by homeschooling them.

 

[NaCl]

It seems now that some people are trying to equate science with morality. Just as most conservative/religious parents try to bring their children up in what they see as a moral lifestyle, nowadays secular parents worry about children being raised in un-secular enviornments.

The difference however is that science is not a way of life, nor is it a behavioral thing. It is a set of facts, not a set of values.

 

[Halossellar]

Creationism might be inappropriate for his children.

As for my or anyone else's children, he can shove it.

Teach them about creationism in church where it belongs. Scientists don't tell churches what to teach in Sunday school, don't let religion tell schools how to teach their science class.

 

[selfinflikted]

However, I think if scientists - atheist, Christian and otherwise - want to spread evolutionary theory they shouldn't insist that accepting evolution means rejecting religious worldviews.

No one is insisting that. In fact, the vast majority of Christians the world over accept evolution as fact, and they don't have a problem reconciling that with their religious convictions. Now, if we're talking about Creationism (especially YEC'ism) vs Evolution, then yea, evolution kinda throws a wrench into those gears.

 

[TheyCallMeDave]

So says Bill Nye the Science Guy.

Bill Nye: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children - YouTube

This guy, like so many other fooled people, is talking out the back of his neck . In fact, its absurd.

I dont know of a child of 4-8 years old who DIDNT go to their Parents asking questions like : WHO made all this, HOW did it all get here, WHAT is it all here for ? And like questions. Even at a tender age, children can see the wonder, amazement, beauty, complexity, design, fascination with the creation around them . As they get a bit older, they start to see the fascination with their own Bodys . They cant quite put it all into words, but if they could, it would be a strong appeal toward Creationism and not everything arriving by blind natural accidents without a shred of purpose .

Now...they enter Grade School where conflicting psuedo-science is interjected into their highly impressionable brains solidified by Authority Figures who are teaching them new things , to which they fully trust as the truth. Thats where brainwashing takes place and before you know it, they are being tricked by the airbrushed pics of dead raw chemicals in the sky burping out a fully formed Cell - our little Pond Protozoa Friend (with a smile on his face of course) then over billions and billions of years turning into familiar animals theyve seen at the local zoo like Apes having 2 arms and 2 legs walking upright. Then with a bit of artistry, we have these familiar animals taking on Human simularities with Apes becoming 'our Cousins' --- a wild imagination suddenly becoming worthy of trust to the Innocent . From there of course, the foundation has been layed and in conjunction with inherent personal rebellion, pride, and arrogance....the Child is well on his/her way to a life of GodLESSness due to 'no ultimate moral accountability' because God isnt needed . This hybrid-Cocktail of our Ancestor being Pond Scum combined with inherent moral rebellion is what produces wayward Adults called 'Atheists' who must continue the charade for desired maximum pleasure seeking because they never got the void filled which was only meant for God to fill, so they stuff all kinds of things in the big void but it never gets filled or sealed up.

And there you have todays American Society ; a secular, liberal, morally irrresponsible , apathetic Populace going down the fast lane to a GodLESS eternity by choice. Fortunately, some will open their eyes to see whats occured and be willing to repent and get on Gods Bandwagon that stops at Heavens door.But most will only find out the extent of being fooled when they hear God pronounce : 'Depart from Me for i never knew you (nor you, Me) ' .

 

[Paradoxum]

I dont know of a child of 4-8 years old who DIDNT go to their Parents asking questions like : WHO made all this, HOW did it all get here, WHAT is it all here for ? And like questions. Even at a tender age, children can see the wonder, amazement, beauty, complexity, design, fascination with the creation around them. As they get a bit older, they start to see the fascination with their own Bodys. They cant quite put it all into words, but if they could, it would be a strong appeal toward Creationism and not everything arriving by blind natural accidents without a shred of purpose.

And everyone knows the the opinion of children are mostly likely to be true? The reason we have gotten where we have is because we have working by evidence, not peoples opinions. Perhaps even creationists should wonder if their thoughts have moved beyond child-like anthropomorphism of nature.

"I have no idea how lightning could come naturally so Zeus must have done it."

Now...they enter Grade School where conflicting psuedo-science is interjected into their highly impressionable brains solidified by Authority Figures who are teaching them new things , to which they fully trust as the truth. Thats where brainwashing takes place and before you know it, they are being tricked by the airbrushed pics of dead raw chemicals in the sky burping out a fully formed Cell - our little Pond Protozoa Friend (with a smile on his face of course) then over billions and billions of years turning into familiar animals theyve seen at the local zoo like Apes having 2 arms and 2 legs walking upright. Then with a bit of artistry, we have these familiar animals taking on Human simularities with Apes becoming 'our Cousins' --- a wild imagination suddenly becoming worthy of trust to the Innocent.

Cool story.. bro...

From there of course, the foundation has been layed and in conjunction with inherent personal rebellion, pride, and arrogance....the Child is well on his/her way to a life of GodLESSness due to 'no ultimate moral accountability' because God isnt needed.

How did you jump from evolution to Godlessness? And are you trying to say atheists aren't moral?

This hybrid-Cocktail of our Ancestor being Pond Scum combined with inherent moral rebellion is what produces wayward Adults called 'Atheists' who must continue the charade for desired maximum pleasure seeking because they never got the void filled which was only meant for God to fill, so they stuff all kinds of things in the big void but it never gets filled or sealed up.

Is that even true? How do you know that there is a void that can only be filled by God?

And there you have todays American Society ; a secular, liberal, morally irrresponsible , apathetic Populace going down the fast lane to a GodLESS eternity by choice.

Secularism is for the benefit of religious and non-religious alike. Liberal is progress, and what do you mean by morally irresponsible?

Fortunately, some will open their eyes to see whats occured and be willing to repent and get on Gods Bandwagon that stops at Heavens door.But most will only find out the extent of being fooled when they hear God pronounce : 'Depart from Me for i never knew you (nor you, Me) ' .

Strange enough that verse refers to religious people who claim to know God oh so well, not irreligious people. You are more likely to hear that said than me.

 

[selfinflikted]

Is Creationism inappropriate for children? My answer is: Sometimes.

Harmless Biblical stories about talking animals and an old guy with a long white beard in the clouds are probably harmless. The harm starts to come in when these stories take precedence over truth and fact.

Ever seen Jesus Camp (Jesus Camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)? THIS. This brand of Creationism/Christianity is extremely harmful to children, and in my own mind, I consider this a form of child abuse. Kids are taught inequality, hate, and lies. It's disgusting and I fully believe that kids like those poor children in aforementioned documentary should be removed from their parents' custody.

 

[TheyCallMeDave]

Is Creationism inappropriate for children? My answer is: Sometimes.

Harmless Biblical stories about talking animals and an old guy with a long white beard in the clouds are probably harmless. The harm starts to come in when these stories take precedence over truth and fact.

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Yes indeed, like : A colored squiggley piece of Pond Scum having a smiley face magically decided to work its way up to every life form on Earth by pure random accidents times accidents for no good reason, being completely void of intrinsic dignity and worth , eventually making its way up to a 206 bone human being with a brain far surpassing a deliberately created computer with required intelligent input...along with 60 some anatomical systems all working in incredible unison ... all so the Child can try to believe he is nothing but a glorified animal of the Forest , culminating in a license to live and behave anyway he likes as a 'responsible' adult.

Atheistic mythical stories and wild imaginations as these have proven to be very very harmful to the individual as well as an entire Nation.

 

[selfinflikted]

Yes indeed, like : A colored squiggley piece of Pond Scum having a smiley face magically decided to work its way up to every life form on Earth by pure random accidents times accidents for no good reason, being completely void of intrinsic dignity and worth , eventually making its way up to a 206 bone human being with a brain far surpassing a deliberately created computer with required intelligent input...along with 60 some anatomical systems all working in incredible unison ... all so the Child can try to believe he is nothing but a glorified animal of the Forest , culminating in a license to live and behave anyway he likes as a 'responsible' adult.

Atheistic mythical stories and wild imaginations as these have proven to be very very harmful to the individual as well as an entire Nation.

And this is, somehow, more fantastical to you than a god in the sky who can magically poof everything into existence? lol. Give me a break.

 

[IzzyPop]

Yes indeed, like : A colored squiggley piece of Pond Scum having a smiley face magically decided to work its way up to every life form on Earth by pure random accidents times accidents for no good reason, being completely void of intrinsic dignity and worth , eventually making its way up to a 206 bone human being with a brain far surpassing a deliberately created computer with required intelligent input...along with 60 some anatomical systems all working in incredible unison ... all so the Child can try to believe he is nothing but a glorified animal of the Forest , culminating in a license to live and behave anyway he likes as a 'responsible' adult.

Atheistic mythical stories and wild imaginations as these have proven to be very very harmful to the individual as well as an entire Nation.

Yay Strawman!!

You going to address the actual issue or just lampoon an argument you are making up yourself?

 

[TheyCallMeDave]

And this is, somehow, more fantastical to you than a god in the sky who can magically poof everything into existence? lol. Give me a break.

Yes indeed...an Infinite personal intelligent Being based on the finite, personal, intellectual effects Science has discovered, and ,which yourself know of too but dont want to admit publicly . A personal theistic Creator as the First Cause can be scientifically confirmed as a requirement based on personal, intellectual evidences left behind ....lest you think things like these can come from materials and non living raw chemicals ?!

 

[TheyCallMeDave]

And everyone knows the the opinion of children are mostly likely to be true? The reason we have gotten where we have is because we have working by evidence, not peoples opinions. Perhaps even creationists should wonder if their thoughts have moved beyond child-like anthropomorphism of nature.

"I have no idea how lightning could come naturally so Zeus must have done it."



Cool story.. bro...



How did you jump from evolution to Godlessness? And are you trying to say atheists aren't moral?



Is that even true? How do you know that there is a void that can only be filled by God?



Secularism is for the benefit of religious and non-religious alike. Liberal is progress, and what do you mean by morally irresponsible?



Strange enough that verse refers to religious people who claim to know God oh so well, not irreligious people. You are more likely to hear that said than me.

How long have you not wanted God to be real, and instead wanted the impossibility of Natural Causes for everything even the personal/intellectual/logic/reason/abstract thinking/will/and messages ? Tell us how they popped into being out of materials and non living raw chemicals ?

 

[Paradoxum]

How long have you not wanted God to be real, and instead wanted the impossibility of Natural Causes for everything even the personal/intellectual/logic/reason/abstract thinking/will/and messages?

Well I don't think I don't want him to be real. I used to love God not too long ago.

Tell us how they popped into being out of materials and non living raw chemicals ?

Well evolutionary biology can probably answer some of that, but right now I have to say don't know. And I don't have to know. I don't need to make things up because I don't have all the answers. If someone didn't know where lightning came from it wouldn't be a good idea for them to invent a sky god to explain it.

 

[selfinflikted]

Yes indeed...an Infinite personal intelligent Being based on the finite, personal, intellectual effects Science has discovered, and ,which yourself know of too but dont want to admit publicly .

You know what? You're absolutely right. I just want to go on living my self-centered, egotistical, mindless self-indulgent lifestyle. How could I ever have any unadulterated fun if I conceed that God is watching every move I make and making mental notes of all the sin I commit? It is better, as you have suggested, for me to just pretend there is no god so I can live my life the way I want to live it. I'm glad you could see right through my charade because now I can finally admit this to myself. Sometimes it takes someone who can give an objective opinion to point out my mistakes. Thank you so much for helping me to realize the Truth, and to stop lying to myself.

NOT.

A personal theistic Creator as the First Cause can be scientifically confirmed as a requirement based on personal, intellectual evidences left behind ....lest you think things like these can come from materials and non living raw chemicals ?!

Show me scientific evidence of your god.

 

[someguy14]

Creationism is Inappropriate for Children

God is the Creator. God is for all children. God is the pure, the good.

 

[someguy14]

Show me scientific evidence of your god.

Worshipping "science" is proof of the absence of truth.

 

[selfinflikted]

God is the Creator. God is for all children. God is the pure, the good.

Except for when he sends grizzly bears to mangle them to pieces.

 

[selfinflikted]

Worshipping "science" is proof of the absence of truth.

I don't even know what this means.

 

[someguy14]

I used to love God not too long ago.

Without God, love doesnt exist. Unless one debases love to mean selfishness, greed and coveting, lust.(in other words, worthlessness, rejection of God.)

All serve goodness or wickedness. One or the other, regardless of how much one attempts to not choose a side, that one chooses a side. Goodness cannot go against goodness and wickedness cannot go against wickedness. One doesnt need argue with this fact, one will realize it sooner or later and all of mankind, male or female, is without excuse.

No matter your response, God is correct, and all others fail.

 

[someguy14]

I don't even know what this means.

God is the only truth. True science agrees with God or its a lie, non existent, fail, delusion.