The best evidence for Creationism

[Mr Strawberry]

Just remember that it was a creationist who invented the computer.

...and it was creationists who discovered the lack of evidence for a global flood. Besides which, I believe the man who put forward the theory of evolution started out with strong religious convictions.

Your point being?

 

[AV1611VET]

...and it was creationists who discovered the lack of evidence for a global flood. Besides which, I believe the man who put forward the theory of evolution started out with strong religious convictions.

Your point being?

That I'm taking this...

Or alternatively, you could say that creationism is popular among those whose education doesn't include much of the stuff learnt since The Enlightenment.

... with a grain of salt.

You don't consider the computer coming from someone 'whose education doesn't include much of the stuff learnt [sic] since The Enlightenment'?

 

[RickG]

Ooookay ... where were we?

Oh, yes ...

You do realize Theistic Evolutionists are creationists too, do you not?

Yes, I agree. However, I think for the most part when "creationism" is discussed here, I understand it to be of the variety that is, shall we say, colorful with their interpretation of the many aspects of science that support the theory of evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, I agree.

Then I'll take this...

I disagree, Creationists don't like evolution because it conflicts with their view of Genesis 1. If you wish to think believing in God is ridiculous, your opinion is noted, and one of a minority, whether valid or not. Nevertheless, I do understand what you are trying to convey, I just disagree with your approach.

... with a grain of salt, since you can put your name in there too, creationist.

 

[RickG]

Then I'll take this...

... with a grain of salt, since you can put your name in there too, creationist.

Salt is the spice of life.

However, I think once again you confusing the concept of abiogenesis with that of evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

Salt is the spice of life.

... I thought 'variety' was!?

 

[RickG]

... I thought 'variety' was!?

AV1611VET SAYS IT ... THAT SETTLES IT​

 

[Inan3]

AV1611VET SAYS IT ... THAT SETTLES IT​

Good answer Rick

 

[someguy14]

The best evidence for Creationism

All goodness comes from God alone.

 

[AV1611VET]

Good answer Rick

... Thank you, sis!

 

[Inan3]

I disagree, Creationists don't like evolution because it conflicts with their view of Genesis 1. If you wish to think believing in God is ridiculous, your opinion is noted, and one of a minority, whether valid or not. Nevertheless, I do understand what you are trying to convey, I just disagree with your approach.

Well, isn't that funny, you disagree with portons and I disagree with you that Creationists don't like evolution because it conflicts with their view of Genesis 1. I dont' dislike evolution because of that. As a matter of fact, I disagree with, or rather, see Genesis 1 in a different light than most Creationists do but that doesn't change that I do not believe in evolution. I base my belief on Genesis 2 rather than on Genesis 1.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Well, isn't that funny, you disagree with portons and I disagree with you that Creationists don't like evolution because it conflicts with their view of Genesis 1. I dont' dislike evolution because of that. As a matter of fact, I disagree with, or rather, see Genesis 1 in a different light than most Creationists do but that doesn't change that I do not believe in evolution. I base my belief on Genesis 2 rather than on Genesis 1.

Yes, because his point doesn't apply if it's Genesis 2 not Genesis 1...

 

[Mr Strawberry]

That I'm taking this...

... with a grain of salt.

You don't consider the computer coming from someone 'whose education doesn't include much of the stuff learnt [sic] since The Enlightenment'?

Consider what? What am I supposed to be considering?

That is relevant to the discussion how?

You are referring to Babbage I assume and not Turing. Babbage was Anglican. So what? How is that relevant to education levels and creationism today?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

learnt [sic]

I thought you liked English spelling given your favourite bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

So what? How is that relevant to education levels and creationism today?

What do you want creationists to do ... give you everything?

The computer isn't good enough?

Antiseptic Surgery isn't good enough?

Bacteriology isn't good enough?

Calculus, celestial mechanics, chemistry, comparative anatomy, dimensional analysis, dynamics, electrodynamics, electromagnetics, electronics, energetics, entomology of living insects, field theory, fluid mechanics, galactic astronomy, gas dynamics, genetics, glacial geology, gynecology, hydraulics, hydrography, hydrostatics, ichthyology, isotopic chemistry, model analysis, natural history, non-Euclidean geometry, oceanography, optical mineralogy, paleontology, pathology, physical astronomy, reversible thermodynamics, statistical thermodynamic, stratigraphy, systematic biology, thermodynamics, thermokinetics, and vertebrate paleontology ... aren't good enough?

Can't you guys do something on your own for a change?

God gave you all the hardware and brainware you currently have.

How about using it to do something constructive, instead of whining about 'education levels and creationism today'?

 

[Inan3]

Yes, because his point doesn't apply if it's Genesis 2 not Genesis 1...

So YOU say WC. No offense but that does not make it so. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt because maybe I didn't understand what you were saying.?.?

 

[TLK Valentine]

What do you want creationists to do ... give you everything?

The computer isn't good enough?

Antiseptic Surgery isn't good enough?

Bacteriology isn't good enough?

Calculus, celestial mechanics, chemistry, comparative anatomy, dimensional analysis, dynamics, electrodynamics, electromagnetics, electronics, energetics, entomology of living insects, field theory, fluid mechanics, galactic astronomy, gas dynamics, genetics, glacial geology, gynecology, hydraulics, hydrography, hydrostatics, ichthyology, isotopic chemistry, model analysis, natural history, non-Euclidean geometry, oceanography, optical mineralogy, paleontology, pathology, physical astronomy, reversible thermodynamics, statistical thermodynamic, stratigraphy, systematic biology, thermodynamics, thermokinetics, and vertebrate paleontology ... aren't good enough?

Can't you guys do something on your own for a change?

God gave you all the hardware and brainware you currently have.

How about using it to do something constructive, instead of whining about 'education levels and creationism today'?

All of which was done in spite of creationism, and not because of it. See what happens when people cast aside their old superstitions?

 

[Inan3]

What, in your opinion, is the best evidence for Creationism? Also, say whether you're an evolutionist or a Creationist.

I am, for sure, a creationist. The best evidence for Creationism is God Himself. I know that won't seem like evidence to you but that is because NO ONE can know God except they first are born of the Spirit. You must be able to enter into the realm of God before you can know God or the things of God. I know God and therefore, I know the things of God. The natural man cannot discern the things of the spirit for they are spiritually discerned. Other than that, I will give you the evidence of MILLIONS+ changed lives when they encounter God.

 

[AV1611VET]

All of which was done in spite of creationism, and not because of it. See what happens when people cast aside their old superstitions?

Did you see what I was addressing?

If ...

... creationism is popular among those whose education doesn't include much of the stuff learnt since The Enlightenment.

... so what?

Plenty of us who do embrace creationism include much of the stuff learned since the Enlightenment.

 

[Inan3]

All of which was done in spite of creationism, and not because of it. See what happens when people cast aside their old superstitions?

Let's observe what you just said. You think those things happened in spite of Creationism but that is because you don't believe in creation. You believe we all came from the same ancestor. (I do too but I call Him God Almighty, the ONE true God) If your theory is true than we should see some intellectual evidence from all these creatures that you think are the same species. Have we ever found evidence of computers in the jungles where these creatures abide? How about an education system? Or hospitals where they do surgery? No, we will not see that because as the Bible teaches man was made in the image of God which is far above these creatures. There is not another animal in the earth that even comes near to man. Yes, here and there they have some similarities but man was put here to have dominion over the earth and he was made in God's likeness and image to be able to do so. Now that is not superstition but reality!