The best evidence for Creationism

[Lillen]

Then share it with us...

 

[Trogool]

If i prove it, will you dismiss everything i say and ask me again to prove it??

If it is blatant nonsense, certainly.

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[Trogool]

Then share it with us...

Share what?

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[Lillen]

Why unorganised water particles can form such a beauty to bow with such organized patterns of colours?

Or how do the water particles in the air organize so well to form a rainbow with its bow and patterned colours? I'd say it is simply that way because God wanted to remind us that we will never again face a flood...

 

[Keachian]

Why unorganised water particles can form such a beauty to bow with such organized patterns of colours!!!

Or how do the water particles in the air organize so well to form a rainbow with its bow and patterned colours? I'd say it is simply that way because God wanted to remind us that we will never again face a flood...

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Rainbows, how do they work, don't wanna ask no scientist.

 

[Lillen]

Such as the evidential placebo effect do work. The limits for the doctors using placebo is only how good he persuade others that they will be healed using the sugar, wheat-pills, it would actually require alot of authority in his way to speak to the client inorder for him to just say "Rise up and walk". Jesus taught with authority according to the bible. He could do it, by the afflicted's faith in him.

 

[Lillen]

Rainbow once again... I don't comprehand that site. Make a short breif out of it. I simply have trubble communicating with computers.

 

[DaneaFL]

Any evidence for creationism other than rainbows?

Sorry if I'm asking too much... but easily explainable natural phenomena like light refraction doesn't really lead me to Yahweh as directly as you might hope.

 

[Lillen]

The question was "...how do the water particles in the air organize so well to form a rainbow with its bow and patterned colours?"

I understand the Refraction of one single water particle. But to keep them so organized to form a bow and colour patterns, is unknowned to me!!

 

[Keachian]

Any evidence for creationism other than rainbows?

Sorry if I'm asking too much... but easily explainable natural phenomena like light refraction doesn't really lead me to Yahweh as directly as you might hope.

Shhhh, don't tell them that, they still think they're defending the faith through the defence of Creationism, they're really only making themselves look silly and by extension the faith.

 

[DaneaFL]

The question was "...how do the water particles in the air organize so well to form a rainbow with its bow and patterned colours?"

I understand the Refraction of one single water particle. But to keep them so organized to form a bow and colour patterns, is unknowned to me!!

Haven't you ever seen a rainbow in a garden hose before?

The water particles are randomly moving as they spray out of the nozzle.. they aren't organized to form anything.

It's the light that's static and organized and you can see it each time a water particle passes through the beam.. which happens thousands of times a second in a water stream.

Remove the water particles and the light will still be there, there just won't be any water particles whizzing by to refract the beam as the water passes through.

 

[Lillen]

Haven't you ever seen a rainbow in a garden hose before?

Yes

The water particles are randomly moving as they spray out of the nozzle.. they aren't organized to form anything.

Not even a rainbow?

It's the light that's static and organized and you can see it each time a water particle passes through the beam.. which happens thousands of times a second in a water stream.

But it's more then just one particle giving the whole picture of a rainbow!

Remove the water particles and the light will still be there, there just won't be any water particles whizzing by to refract the beam as the water passes through.

We know that!!

 

[Lillen]

The reflection of each and every particle damands organized particles. Otherwise we would stand gazing an a chaotic rainbow without no patterns, or we would just see the white light.

 

[Keachian]

The reflection of each and every particle damands organized particles. Otherwise we would stand gazing an a chaotic rainbow without no patterns, or we would just see the white light.

Except you don't see the reflection of each and every particle

 

[Wiccan_Child]

So the raindrop acts as a concave refractor to the light going in, but a convex refractor to the light going out?

Pretty much. The angle of incidence causes total internal reflection, while the outgoing angle causes refraction, all the while dispersion is going on. As you can see in the picture, the more oblique the outgoing ray's angle is, the more it's 'bent' as it exits the bubble.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

But not to go in on such discussion... The rainbow's pattern and the fact that it is a bow instead of just white light shining is yet to be explained! Thats the evidence we have that a devine creator actually exist.

Err, Lillen, I already explained it, and you said you agreed with it

"Imagine you're standing in a wide field. The Sun is behind you, and a sheet of rain is in front of you (you're basically on the boundary of the rain). It's light is streaming from behind your head to your front.

Raindrops are spherical. When light enters them, it refracts off the back and comes back out the front again - the raindrops act like little mirrors. But, they don't reflect it back perfectly, they do it like so:

In reality, there would be incident rays (that is, rays of light coming from the Sun) hitting from the top to the bottom of the raindrop. But, for simplicity, only half the rays are shown - those that come in to the top half of the raindrop. When the rays hit the back, they bounce around in that complicated way and then stream outwards.

When this happens to many raindrops at once, they basically end up turning the light from the Sun back around, and spreading it outwards in a cone. This separates the light according to its wavelength, and so we see a circle of light appear in the sky. Since the circle is centred on the ground, we only see the top half - the rainbow. "

 

[Wiccan_Child]

The reflection of each and every particle damands organized particles. Otherwise we would stand gazing an a chaotic rainbow without no patterns, or we would just see the white light.

Basically, the water exists as moisture in the air, as a uniform 'spray' of spherical drops. Their individual movement doesn't matter, so long as, on average, there's a big volume of space filled with drops of water. When sunlight passes through it, much of the rays get bounced back and spread outwards in a conical shape. So when the Sun's behind you and streaming into this volume of water droplets, the drops cause the light to bounce back.

Because the light is coming from the same angle, they bounce it back uniformly. Their motion is irrelevant, as it all averages out.

 

[Lillen]

I am not sure I follow you... Do you believe that the drops works organised to create the prisma of colours? I didn't follow you there!

 

[Lillen]

Remeber each drop reflects their own beam, and since we are seeing a pattern instead of a huge bright light, Remeber the rainbow reflects red, green, blue colours in a pattern, we would need further knowledge here...

 

[Wiccan_Child]

I am not sure I follow you... Do you believe that the drops works organised to create the prisma of colours? I didn't follow you there!

Each drop reflects light in the same way - they all send the light backwards and outwards according to wavelength. Because all the droplets are the same, they all do the same thing to the light. So, from your point of view, all these individual effects add up coherantly.

If they all did different things, they'd never add up to something, they'd interfere with each other and it'd all collapse. But because each drop is the same, and each drop interacts with light in the same way, there is a uniformity in how the light refracts - creating the large effect of the rainbow.

It's like dropping a rock in a pond. The ripples go out in a nice pleasing circle because each water molecule behaves the same. They're not intelligently organised, they just obey the same laws and, in that situation, are subject to the same conditions.

Remeber each drop reflects their own beam, and since we are seeing a pattern instead of a huge bright light, Remeber the rainbow reflects red, green, blue colours in a pattern, we would need further knowledge here...

The refraction in the drop causes dispersion - the uniform beam of white sunlight gets spread out according to wavelength.