Evolution is a RELIGION and not Science

[MrMoe]

I'll ask you the same question I ask all the newcomers to the debate.

Are biologists incompetent or is it a world wide conspiracy that has kept evolution as one of the most used and evidenced theories in science for over 200 years? Bonus points if you can come up with a third option.

no I don't think biologists are incompetent. I am not questioning the methods they use, I am questioning their conclusions. just like two people can look at all the evidence in the jack the ripper case and come up with two different theories to who did it. both can be very convincing arguments but in the end one is wrong.

let me remind you that not all biologists believe in evolution and in fact there are many biologists who have converted to creationism because of what they have found as biologists. are you going to label these guys as incompetent?

by the the way nice bear trap you laid out for me about the world wide conspiracy.
if I had said yes, you would have labeled me a crazy conspiracy theorist, if I had said no, it would make you look like you had a point that there's something in evolution.
nice try.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Nobody can read.

Riiiiiiiiiiight

Apparently not.

 

[Belk]

no I don't think biologists are incompetent. I am not questioning the methods they use, I am questioning their conclusions. just like two people can look at all the evidence in the jack the ripper case and come up with two different theories to who did it. both can be very convincing arguments but in the end one is wrong.

let me remind you that not all biologists believe in evolution and in fact there are many biologists who have converted to creationism because of what they have found as biologists. are you going to label these guys as incompetent?

by the the way nice bear trap you laid out for me about the world wide conspiracy.
if I had said yes, you would have labeled me a crazy conspiracy theorist, if I had said no, it would make you look like you had a point that there's something in evolution.
nice try.

I want to address you post more fully but since I am pressed for time right now so let me just say that if you find those two options disagreeable then please suggest a third that works. If biologists are not incompetent then there must be something to evolution since it has been considered the basic theory in biology for 200 years. The only other way I can see it being in the sciences for this long is a conspiracy theory. What do you think? Do you see a third option I am missing if evolution is incorrect?

 

[cupid dave]

So, if you're creating marine animals, wouldn't you be better using water breathers? Evolution explains cetaceans, Creationism can't.

Are you fair enough to admit that these creationists are just spouting the stuff passed down from the Middle Ages, before we understood these scientific facts, and give Genesis another read?

Can you see trthat the Bible makes sense in regard to evolution, whereas the churchians do not interpret it correctly?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

This thread will be closed, like all my other ones, as by the rules HERE I am not allowed to post rpoofs of evolution as a lie, an d creation is DESIGN. Hyperlinks are not allowed, therefore all my graphuics, math etc are not allowed. Nothing is allowed and therefore as mentioned evolution is a religion which is religiously followed and protected, even HERE

 

[SonOfTheWest]

This thread will be closed, like all my other ones, as by the rules HERE I am not allowed to post rpoofs of evolution as a lie, an d creation is DESIGN. Hyperlinks are not allowed, therefore all my graphuics, math etc are not allowed. Nothing is allowed and therefore as mentioned evolution is a religion which is religiously followed and protected, even HERE

"I'm taking my ball and going home!"

 

[pgp_protector]

This thread will be closed, like all my other ones, as by the rules HERE I am not allowed to post rpoofs of evolution as a lie, an d creation is DESIGN. Hyperlinks are not allowed, therefore all my graphuics, math etc are not allowed. Nothing is allowed and therefore as mentioned evolution is a religion which is religiously followed and protected, even HERE

Hmm
Let's test this..

Inserts Hyperlink-> BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 100 versions and 50 languages.
Nope, they're allowed, so that's not true that they're not allowed.

Inserts Image. ->

Nope, thy're also allowed also.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Its been at least 10 years since I was first promised "proof" of creationism. I'm still waiting.

I'll also point out that even if you prove unequivically that evolution is false, that doesn't make Biblical Creationism any more likely to be correct.

 

[mathetes123]

Its been at least 10 years since I was first promised "proof" of creationism. I'm still waiting.

I'll also point out that even if you prove unequivically that evolution is false, that doesn't make Biblical Creationism any more likely to be correct.

I would say the same of evolution. I have never heard a convincing argument with proof of evolution.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

I would say the same of evolution. I have never heard a convincing argument with proof of evolution.

Have you ever approached it with an open mind? Or always from a position attempting to disprove it?

 

[SonOfTheWest]

I would say the same of evolution. I have never heard a convincing argument with proof of evolution.

To a certain extent a person has to be qualified to understand the science of evolution. Wether you've been personaly convinced or not is ultimately, not important to the facts. But take heart, this is true of most of us.

 

[AV1611VET]

Its been at least 10 years since I was first promised "proof" of creationism. I'm still waiting.

Proving creationism can only be done by Jesus Christ.

The Antichrist, when he shows up, is going to put on a demonstration of abiogenesis, and fool even the greatest scientists on earth into taking the Mark.

But when Jesus shows up, things are going to change -- drastically.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Proving creationism can only be done by Jesus Christ.

The Antichrist, when he shows up, is going to put on a demonstration of abiogenesis, and fool even the greatest scientists on earth into taking the Mark.

But when Jesus shows up, things are going to change -- drastically.

Meanwhile, in the real world...

 

[mathetes123]

Have you ever approached it with an open mind? Or always from a position attempting to disprove it?

Again, I could ask the same of you of Creationism. Have you ever read the Bible account of Creatinism in genesis and approached it with an open mind? How do you reconcile evolution with the clear teaching of the Bible?

 

[AV1611VET]

Have you ever approached it with an open mind?

You mean like Adam & Eve did in the Garden?

Or always from a position attempting to disprove it?

We will never disprove evolution in this dispensation.

Evolution will be alive-and-well during the Tribulation.

 

[AV1611VET]

To a certain extent a person has to be qualified to understand the science of evolution. Wether you've been personaly convinced or not is ultimately, not important to the facts. But take heart, this is true of most of us.

Jesus doesn't believe in [macro] evolution -- why should we?

 

[AV1611VET]

Meanwhile, in the real world...

... [macro] evolution can take a hike.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

You mean like Adam & Eve did in the Garden?

We will never disprove evolution in this dispensation.

Evolution will be alive-and-well during the Tribulation.

Sorry, not engaging unless you promise to abide by the rules

 

[SonOfTheWest]

Again, I could ask the same of you of Creationism. Have you ever read the Bible account of Creatinism in genesis and approached it with an open mind? How do you reconcile evolution with the clear teaching of the Bible?

I think it's a dumb question to ask in the first place.

I don't expect the average 1st century person to have an accurate grasp of 2012 science let alone what we will know in the centuries ahead.

Creationists sort of remind me of someone who goes into hysterics when they find out a loved out died, screaming, "No no he(or she) isn't dead!!!! noooooo!". While the whole time it's still true that the loved one is dead.

Likewise, the creationist cries and cries and throws a tantrum because they don't like certain facts.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, not engaging unless you promise to abide by the rules

Can you put it in writing; I'm not going to click on that link.