Knight in Shinning Armor?

[Created2Write]

Did anyone talk to the lifeguard or his supervisor? That seems like a very dangerous situation for the person who is supposed to be ensuring safety to be so apathetic.

No, we didn't. We should have though. I wasn't exactly thinking about scolding the lifeguard at that moment. I was just focusing on getting as far away from the pool as possible.

 

[Created2Write]

lol! I jumped out of the boat one day to cool off and got carried away by the current. My husband just stood in the boat watching me. I didn't expect him to jump in after me, but it would have been nice if he at least would have pulled in the anchor and came after me with the boat. No, he is not my knight in shining armour, but that's okay. He is my husband and that to me is more important then a knight in shining armour. One seems to be a dream and one is reality.

I think the last statement is contingent on personal experience. For me both are reality. He's my husband and my Knight in shinning armor.

 

[Created2Write]

Well my husband isnt a knight in shining armour either thats the point.But the truth is ..I wouldnt be here today.I would have drowned..I was already drowning..another 5 maybe 10 mintues I would have not been able to fight any more..I was already only able to go under the water and after a swell went over me I could touch the bottom(the water was risign and falling many feet) and then JUMP up out of the water gasp..then go back under..wait ..touch the bottom JUMP up gasp for air and so on..while that was happening I was also beign pulled every time the swell went over me..several feet back into the ocean my legs and body were being DRAGGED out to sea....I was beign SUCKED into the ocean..I would have died..

IOW if my husband had not acted..I would have died 16 years ago..(I think its been that long LOL>..)..Thats what Im saying..he didnt just 'help me" he SAVED my LIFE..there was NO way ..I could have gotten out of that..none..

The "funny "thing is ..once I dragged my trembling choking sobbing exausted body onto the sand ...I said...you saved my life...He said in perfect Andy style..(and he was out of breath too just not a rag doll like me)...Nah...you would have been fine.

Dallas

Yes, I get the point. You've repeated many times that you would have drowned. It's awesome that he was there for you.

I would likely have drowned as well, unless the lifeguard finally noticed me. So you're not the only one who has experience in a life threatening situation. You just see your husband differently than I see mine. To me, my husband is deserving of the title "Knight in shinning armor" because he saved my life. He's helped me in many different ways so it's not just that situation that makes him my Knight. You see the title of knight as being undeserving for your husband. That's very sweet.

 

[Created2Write]

I think calling them a knight or a prince once in a while would stoke their ego, but the best compliment any woman could give a man would be to call him husband.

I disagree. Maybe my husband and I are just really romantic, but I truly see him as my knight. Not in the literal sense of the word. I don't see him in armor when I look at him, but I do see someone I love more than anyone else, I see someone who has saved my life, someone who woke me from the "sleep" of distrust I was in. When I look at him I see a man that I can call "my Prince". Likewise, he calls me his "Princess" because he sees in me the woman who changed his life.

It's not really about ego. And it's not about "knight" being better than "husband", either. I wouldn't rather he be my knight than my husband. To me they're one and in the same, to me they can't be separated.

 

[Created2Write]

Probably. Now thanks to AL, I'll have Elton Johns ugly mug leaping to mind when I think of knights.

LOL. Yeah. Elton John is definitely not my idea of a dashing man.

There's a lot to be said for having a guy who will be there for you, the minute you need him. Is it the same for the men here, is it important for you that you can depend on your wives to help you out of a bind?

I'm curious about this as well.

 

[hijklmnop]

SHINING! Not SHINNING!

I can sleep now.

 

[JanniGirl]

Idk. I think today's "knight in shining armor" is one that's conquered his own demons. He's slain his obsession with porn and objectifying women, his need to be the center of attention, his desire for all the gadgets and toys .... Yes!! A man like that would be a "knight in shining armor" to me.

Truth be told, I'm unlikely to face a physical death that my husband has the power to prevent (or sacrifice himself for), but the emotional/spiritual damage he piles onto me and our relationship with his undealt with inner demons ...

What good is a man who would "die" for you physically (& who will likely never have to "prove it") if he's maiming you emotionally?

 

[hijklmnop]

Idk. I think today's "knight in shining armor" is one that's conquered his own demons. He's slain his obsession with porn and objectifying women, his need to be the center of attention, his desire for all the gadgets and toys .... Yes!! A man like that would be a "knight in shining armor" to me.

Truth be told, I'm unlikely to face a physical death that my husband has the power to prevent (or sacrifice himself for), but the emotional/spiritual damage he piles onto me and our relationship with his undealt with inner demons ...

What good is a man who would "die" for you physically (& who will likely never have to "prove it") if he's maiming you emotionally?

Wow, awesome post and ITA!

 

[Avniel]

Idk. I think today's "knight in shining armor" is one that's conquered his own demons. He's slain his obsession with porn and objectifying women, his need to be the center of attention, his desire for all the gadgets and toys .... Yes!! A man like that would be a "knight in shining armor" to me.

Truth be told, I'm unlikely to face a physical death that my husband has the power to prevent (or sacrifice himself for), but the emotional/spiritual damage he piles onto me and our relationship with his undealt with inner demons ...

What good is a man who would "die" for you physically (& who will likely never have to "prove it") if he's maiming you emotionally?

I was there until you said gadget then I became disqualified lol.

But seriously whats wrong with a little gadget here and there?

 

[Avniel]

Well I was going to school I lived off campus and my girlfriend then now wife was back at home working(nerd graduated early). I had saw someone I knew and I was moving out of my apartment so I was just giving away furniture. I gave the guy a sofa two weeks after taking the sofa he calls back saying he's ready to get the bed two days before I have to be out. I informed the guy I had already moved out he said he was coming over to slap me, I heard a knock and I open the door to see if he was going to slap me. He had a lot of people with him one of them had a gun.....My initial response was to ask God to forgive me for my sins and as I was getting ready to throw my life away I thought about my wife to be. I thought about her crying at my funeral and I did as they said and I am still here today because of thinking about her tears. So my wife is my knight in shining armor.

And on the flip side, current situation being that my wife is pregnant. She took birth control long story short she is in that 1%, but more then likely I think her doctor is an idiot. She was really upset about it, it throw our life plan entirely off. We wanted to be older parents not younger....But I had to tell her everything is ok, we should be excited and make her feel comfortable. Not only am I scared to be a father I don't know billy jack about pregnancy. So I am scared and she is upset about it. But I'd rather her be comfortable so I try to be as strong as I can be for her. The worst part is the morning sickness I hate to see her so sick it just breaks my heart.

I hope I'm her knight in shining armor. I aint perfect my armor got a few dents in it but when it comes to my wife I'm ready for war.

 

[Romanseight2005]

Idk. I think today's "knight in shining armor" is one that's conquered his own demons. He's slain his obsession with porn and objectifying women, his need to be the center of attention, his desire for all the gadgets and toys .... Yes!! A man like that would be a "knight in shining armor" to me.

Truth be told, I'm unlikely to face a physical death that my husband has the power to prevent (or sacrifice himself for), but the emotional/spiritual damage he piles onto me and our relationship with his undealt with inner demons ...

What good is a man who would "die" for you physically (& who will likely never have to "prove it") if he's maiming you emotionally?

This is exactly right!

 

[Romanseight2005]

Wow Avneil! You have definitely experienced things that many of us haven't. Being ready to die for a loved one is importantt as wrll. But Janni still has some good points. First of all, many men who talk about being ready to die for their wives, haven't had to do it, and may never be tested in that area, so it would be an easy thing to claim falsely, much of the time.

Secondly, even really being willing to die, while a valiant act, is still something that would only happen once. It's always easier, with anything, to go through it once, or for a short period, as opposed to enduring it long term.

 

[Avniel]

Wow Avneil! You have definitely experienced things that many of us haven't. Being ready to die for a loved one is importantt as wrll. But Janni still has some good points. First of all, many men who talk about being ready to die for their wives, haven't had to do it, and may never be tested in that area, so it would be an easy thing to claim falsely, much of the time.

Secondly, even really being willing to die, while a valiant act, is still something that would only happen once. It's always easier, with anything, to go through it once, or for a short period, as opposed to enduring it long term.

I think that is really interesting. I do believe it has a lot to do with my environmental upbringings. I had a friend that got hit with a tire iron and was in a comma, another one of my friends can't visit his mother without someone
chasing after him or bullets buzzing by his head, I have seen police rob drug dealers two of my cousins on separate occasions have shot at police(one an off duty cop that became upset that my cousin was dating his girlfriend he got off but was deported). When out of all your friends your the only one that went to college and gets paid legally the way you view death can be askewed. I dont have that natural fear of death, I'm scared of jail, I'm scared of the police but I'm not scared to die. Not saying I would go out of my way to but if something comes my way danger really doesn't factor to me. When your raised around so many people that have so little value for life including there own it can change how you process danger and death.

Going to college I found it interesting how people were scared to go to certain areas of atlanta, talk to certain type of person.....I never really learned how to fear like that. I think that's called stunted developmental growth.

For me it's not about will I risk my life for my wife but more so will I let go of my pride, my ego, my fears for my wife. And I think in every situation I have done just that. Now I'm not perfect and I don't get everything right all the time. But if it's between my wife crying and my ego being hurt I'd rather deal with a hurt ego. I think thats what being a knight in shining armor really is. It's a man with all his flaws, faults, dislikes, personality traits, bad habits and truly understanding that his wife is more important to him then himself. I honestly believe that is the biggest part men don't understand about the love your wife as Christ loved the church scripture. Christ gave his life for the Church He placed more value on us as sinners then He did himself. I think that is the deepest kinda of love. Of course the wife is no more important then the husband but I feel that if you ask any man who he views more important himself or his wife.....That man should believe his wife.

 

[Romanseight2005]

I think that is really interesting. I do believe it has a lot to do with my environmental upbringings. I had a friend that got hit with a tire iron and was in a comma, another one of my friends can't visit his mother without someone
chasing after him or bullets buzzing by his head, I have seen police rob drug dealers two of my cousins on separate occasions have shot at police(one an off duty cop that became upset that my cousin was dating his girlfriend he got off but was deported). When out of all your friends your the only one that went to college and gets paid legally the way you view death can be askewed. I dont have that natural fear of death, I'm scared of jail, I'm scared of the police but I'm not scared to die. Not saying I would go out of my way to but if something comes my way danger really doesn't factor to me. When your raised around so many people that have so little value for life including there own it can change how you process danger and death.

Going to college I found it interesting how people were scared to go to certain areas of atlanta, talk to certain type of person.....I never really learned how to fear like that. I think that's called stunted developmental growth.

For me it's not about will I risk my life for my wife but more so will I let go of my pride, my ego, my fears for my wife. And I think in every situation I have done just that. Now I'm not perfect and I don't get everything right all the time. But if it's between my wife crying and my ego being hurt I'd rather deal with a hurt ego. I think thats what being a knight in shining armor really is. It's a man with all his flaws, faults, dislikes, personality traits, bad habits and truly understanding that his wife is more important to him then himself. I honestly believe that is the biggest part men don't understand about the love your wife as Christ loved the church scripture. Christ gave his life for the Church He placed more value on us as sinners then He did himself. I think that is the deepest kinda of love. Of course the wife is no more important then the husband but I feel that if you ask any man who he views more important himself or his wife.....That man should believe his wife.

I think you are absolutely dealing with Growing in Christ. You are now concerned with the inner workings of your heart. That is where God does surgery, and it is where we all need to be focused. This may well be a painful prosess for you, for which you have my sympathy and pray, but this may well me one of the most wonderful times where you learn and grow exponentially, as well. God may be working in an amazing way right now. Awesome! Praise God!

 

[Conservativation]

Wow Avneil! You have definitely experienced things that many of us haven't. Being ready to die for a loved one is importantt as wrll. But Janni still has some good points. First of all, many men who talk about being ready to die for their wives, haven't had to do it, and may never be tested in that area, so it would be an easy thing to claim falsely, much of the time.

Secondly, even really being willing to die, while a valiant act, is still something that would only happen once. It's always easier, with anything, to go through it once, or for a short period, as opposed to enduring it long term.

True, most of us lie easily about this, makes us look good while we sneak around looking at porn

Good post

 

[chaz345]

Idk. I think today's "knight in shining armor" is one that's conquered his own demons. He's slain his obsession with porn and objectifying women, his need to be the center of attention, his desire for all the gadgets and toys .... Yes!! A man like that would be a "knight in shining armor" to me.

Truth be told, I'm unlikely to face a physical death that my husband has the power to prevent (or sacrifice himself for), but the emotional/spiritual damage he piles onto me and our relationship with his undealt with inner demons ...

What good is a man who would "die" for you physically (& who will likely never have to "prove it") if he's maiming you emotionally?

I agree that such a man would be worthy of the title knight. A question though. Do you believe that all or the huge majority of men have to deal with the particular demons you mention?

 

[Created2Write]

Idk. I think today's "knight in shining armor" is one that's conquered his own demons. He's slain his obsession with porn and objectifying women, his need to be the center of attention, his desire for all the gadgets and toys .... Yes!! A man like that would be a "knight in shining armor" to me.

Truth be told, I'm unlikely to face a physical death that my husband has the power to prevent (or sacrifice himself for), but the emotional/spiritual damage he piles onto me and our relationship with his undealt with inner demons ...

What good is a man who would "die" for you physically (& who will likely never have to "prove it") if he's maiming you emotionally?

I agree with this as well, although I think a man's individual demons vary. Not all men struggle with porn or sexual issues, not all men struggle with anger, etc. But I do agree with your point that the man's issues need to be dealt with as well.

 

[Created2Write]

So, as far as I can see a husband who is a woman's "Knight" has these qualities:

- He's ready and willing to lay down his life for her.
- He puts her before himself and fights for her, not against her.
- He's willing to face his inner struggles every day and fight them, to be better to her and for her.
- Ultimately, a husband who is a "knight" has Christ as the center of His life and is continually doing his best to move towards being a good husband.

 

[Obzocky]

I've briefly read through this, so apologies for the lack of depth.

I guess i've grown up in a culture where such terms are viewed as a sign of immaturity It's not, it just shows a different way of expressing your feelings for each other, but it is not something I would ever be able to do. To me knight, hero, prince, princess, all of that stuff, it is best left for re-enactments, not day to day life.

Maybe it's a general British thing? I just view "husband" as being everything people have described, to me there is no "more than that", it is what it is. You can give them all the fancy pet names under the sun, but that just represents the emotions individuals attach to certain words.

I would not want the Disney prince, the Marvel superhero or a whimsical interpretation of the knights of old. Whilst some may find it very romantic it isn't the sort of thing that sings romance to us. It's nothing to do with viewing him in a light that makes me feel incapable, it's just the fact that, to me, there is no need for such words. It's how you make him feel, how he makes you feel, the words just dress this up depending on individual preferences.

Those qualities you list, bar the "lay down his life" one (surely that would depend on whether there were children involved? You don't go into a situation where the chance of your children being orphaned is rather high, or at least I hope he wouldn't), are what I expect the word husband to cover.

Horses for courses I suppose. It is nice, if the word has a certain meaning for the pair of you, that you share this outlook.

 

[JanniGirl]

I agree that such a man would be worthy of the title knight. A question though. Do you believe that all or the huge majority of men have to deal with the particular demons you mention?

I do think a huge majority of men have to deal with at least one of the three outward signs of "inner demons". Objectifying women & sex (often through the use of pornography), the quest for "things" to make themselves feel ______, and the ability to look outside of their own selves & place priority on others'.

A man who can deal with his inner demons -- yes, I'd call him a "KNIGHT".

(Footnote: If you're going to try to turn this into some sort of man bashing or woman bashing debate, just don't bother. That's old news & I've grown tired of that particular discourse.)