Yes, I do. I have explained it in several posts. I have mentioned Supernova 1987a, Oklo Reactor, cobalt isotope decay, and hydrogen lines in distant stars. You ignore all of it.
False. None of that supports you. The series of miracles in a same state past required for Oklo, as I pointed out is unsupportable.
Need a fresh one?
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Today even the most massive and concentrated uranium deposit cannot become a nuclear reactor, because the
uranium 235 concentration, at less than
1 percent, is just too low.
1[so they assume that differences existed..proof?]
But this isotope
is radioactive and decays about six times
faster than does uranium 238, which indicates
that the fissile fraction was much
higher in the distant past. For example,
two billion years ago (about when the
Oklo deposit formed) uranium 235 must
have constituted approximately 3 percent,
2
["Must have"??? Prove it]
The third important ingredient is a
neutron moderator, a substance that
can slow the neutrons given off when a
uranium nucleus splits so that they are
more apt to induce other uranium nuclei
to break apart
3[so we need water every few hours for millions of years?]
Cowan described, for example, how
some of the neutrons released during the
fission of uranium 235 were captured by
the more abundant uranium 238, which
became uranium 239 and, after emitting
two electrons, turned into plutonium
239.
4[after being kissed by the tooth fairy?]
Although almost all this
material, which has a 24,000-year halflife,
has since disappeared (primarily
through natural radioactive decay),
5[ah, the case of the missing stuff-prove it was here]
The
abundance of those lighter elements allowed
scientists to deduce that fission
reactions must have gone on for hundreds
of thousands of years.
6
[missing stuff forces same state past conclusion!]
From the
amount of uranium 235 'consumed', they
calculated the total energy released,
15,000 megawatt-years, and from this
and other evidence were able to work out
the average power output,
7
[present state calculations]
It is truly amazing that more than a
dozen natural reactors spontaneously
sprang into existence and that they managed
to maintain a modest power output
for perhaps a few hundred millennia.
8
[truly amazing indeed]
Xenon
is extremely rare, which allows scientists
to use it to detect and trace nuclear
reactions, even those that occurred in
primitive meteorites before the solar system
came into existence.
To analyze the isotopic composition
9
[attribute all this gas to same state causes...absurd]
We applied this technique to many
tiny spots on our lone available fragment
of Oklo rock, only one millimeter thick
and four millimeters across.
10
[all this fable based on a teensy fragment. wow]
The second epiphany was that the extracted
gas had a significantly different
isotopic makeup from what is usually
produced in nuclear reactors.
11
[so there was a difference...from what we now see]
'seemingly' lost a large portion of the xenon
136 and 134 that would certainly
have been created from fission, whereas
the lighter varieties of the element were
modified to a lesser extent.
12
[large amount of missing stuff]
For example,
measured with respect to the
amount of xenon 132 present, the depletion
of xenon 136 (being four atomicmass
units heavier) would have been
twice that of xenon 134 (two atomic mass
units heavier) if physical sorting had operated.
We did not see that pattern.
13
[IF physical sorting of the present kind existed...who says it did? so now we need to look at sorting in the former state as a possible cause rather than reaction]
None of the xenon isotopes
we measured were the direct result
of uranium fission. Rather they were the
products of the decay of radioactive isotopes
of iodine, which in turn were
formed from radioactive tellurium and
so forth, according to a well-known sequence
of nuclear reactions that gives
rise to stable xenon.
14 [this became that and that became this and on and on in a same state dream fest]
xenon
136 began at Oklo only about a
minute after the onset of self-sustained
fi ssion. An hour later the next lighter
stable isotope, xenon 134, appeared.
Then, some days after the start of fission,
xenon 132 and 131 came on the
scene. Finally, after millions of years,
and well after the nuclear chain reactions
terminated, xenon 129 formed.
15 [woulda coulda]
The
most likely mechanism involves the action
of groundwater, which presumably
boiled away after the temperature
reached some critical level.
16[same state speculation]
very likely they pulsed
on and off in some fashion, and large
quantities of water 'must have' been moving
through these rocksenough to
wash away some of the xenon precursors,
tellurium and iodine, which are
water-soluble.
17[large quantities of water must have...must have ..must have...same state religion]
anotherit is
unlikely that aluminum phosphate minerals
were present before the Oklo reactors
began operating.
18[says who?]
Instead those
grains of aluminum phosphate 'probably'
formed in place through the action of the
nuclear-heated water, once it had cooled
to about 300 degrees Celsius.
19[speculation in the extreme]
During each active period of operation
of an Oklo reactor and for some
time afterward, while the temperature
remained high, much of the xenon gas
(including xenon 136 and 134, which
were generated relatively quickly) was
'driven off'.
20
[missing stuff again with same state beliefs]
incorporated into growing grains of aluminum
phosphate.
21
[remember they said it was unlikely that aluminum was there before the 'reactions' they don't really know]
Then, as more water
returned to the reaction zone, neutrons
became properly moderated and fission
once again resumed, allowing the cycle
of heating and cooling to repeat. The result
was the peculiar segregation of xenon
isotopes we uncovered.
22
[The result of what? The result of the water they imagine 'HAD to' be there for millenia and in the right time and amount]
It is not entirely obvious what forces
kept this xenon inside the aluminum
phosphate minerals for almost half the
planets lifetime. In particular, why was
the xenon generated during a given operational
pulse not driven off during the
next one?
23
[GIANT leap of faith]
Presumably it became imprisoned
in the cagelike structure of the aluminum
phosphate minerals, which were
able to hold on to the xenon gas created
within them, even at high temperatures.
The details remain fuzzy, but whatever
the fi nal answers are, one thing is clear:
the capacity of aluminum phosphate
24[[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]?]
The Oklo reactor
we studied had switched on for 30 minutes
and off for at least 2.5 hours.
. The more
important lessons may be about how to
handle nuclear waste. Oklo, after all,
serves as a good analogue for a long-term
geologic repository,
25 [dangerous false prophesy]
The Oklo reactors may also teach scientists
about possible shifts in what was
formerly thought to be a fundamental
physical constant, one called (alpha),
which controls such universal quantities
as the speed of light [see Inconstant
Constants, by John D. Barrow and John
K. Webb; Scientifi c American, June].
26
[fables like Oklo form basis of alpha now?]
For three decades, the two-billion-year old
Oklo phenomenon has been used to
argue against alpha having changed. But last
year Steven K. Lamoreaux and Justin R.
Torgerson of Los Alamos National Laboratory
drew on Oklo to posit that this
constant has, in fact, varied signifi -
cantly (and, strangely enough, in the opposite
sense from what others have recently
proposed).
27 [so - opposite now of what they said then]
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"He explained that, after the fission process had finished, a geological shift caused the Oklo reactor to sink a few miles below the surface - where it was 'preserved from erosion'.
28
[proof?]
A few million years ago, 'another shift' brought the uranium deposits back to the surface. "
29
[proof?]
Natural Nuclear Reaction Powered Ancient Geyser | LiveScience
[Manhattan project head oversees ocklo for US.]
Shortly after this astonishing discovery, physicists from around the world studied the evidence for these natural nuclear reactors and came together to share their work on the Oklo phenomenon at a special 1975 conference held in Libreville, the capital of Gabon.
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The next year George A. Cowan, who represented the U.S. at that meeting (and who, incidentally, is one of the founders of the renowned Santa Fe Institute, where he is still affiliated), wrote an article for Scientific American [see A Natural Fission Reactor, by George A. Cowan, July 1976] in which he explained what scientists had surmised about the operation of these ancient reactors."
The Workings of An Ancient Nuclear Reactor - A Two Billion Years African Uranium Deposit
"Uranium is soluble in water only in the presence of oxygen. Therefore, the rising oxygen levels during the aging of earth may have allowed uranium to be dissolved and transported with groundwater to places where a high enough concentration could accumulate to form rich uranium ore bodies. Without the new aerobic environment available on earth at the time, these concentrations probably could not have taken place."
Natural nuclear fission reactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Imaginary ages needed to deposit stuff..
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However, Dr. Glenn T. Seaborg, former head of the United States Atomic Energy Commission and Nobel Prize winner for his work in the synthesis of heavy elements, pointed out that for uranium to burn in a reaction, conditions must be exactly right. For example, the water involved in the nuclear reaction must be extremely pure. Even a few parts per million of contaminant will poison the reaction, bringing it to a halt. The problem is that no water that pure exists naturally anywhere in the world.
Besides, several specialists in reactor engineering remarked that at no time in the geologically estimated history of the Oklo deposits was the uranium ore rich enough in U-235 for a natural reaction to have taken place.
Even when the deposits were first formed, because of the slow rate of radioactive disintegration of U-235, the fissionable material would have constituted only 3 percent of the depositsfar too low a level for a nuclear reaction. Yet a reaction did take place, suggesting that the original uranium was far richer in U-235 than a natural formation could have been."
Cassiopaea
Proof?"
When you are willing to disucss things like an adult let me know.
I am ready, kid.
Perfect example of what I am talking about.
"Now go to the heart of the matter, to how free-flying radiation interacts with atoms to give us detailed information about stars and other celestial bodies. Send radiation from a hot, incandescent solid through a gas of low density and watch what happens.
Sorry, I can't any more than you can! Why pretend? We live on earth. From our window here we see light coming in, and little stars, etc. Not knowing what space they resede in way out there, we cannot know distance. Neither can we know what forces and laws actually exist there. Talk about what you know.
The electrons that surround an atom have a minimum energy below which they cannot go (a discovery of "quantum mechanics" made in the early part of the 20th century). The electrons will naturally seek this lowest
energy level. If you move the electrons outward, away from the nucleus, you give them more energy. However, electrons are very specific about what energies they will take. For any given atom or ion, only certain specific electron energies, that is, specific
energy levels, are allowed. Electrons can be moved from one energy level to another by collisions among atoms or by absorption of photons. However, an electron in a specific level cannot absorb part of a photon, but must absorb all or none of it. As a result, only photons with particular energies, those that correspond to differences between the various energy levels, can be absorbed from the flow of passing radiation. Since photon energy corresponds to wavelength, only specific wavelengths (or colors) can be absorbed. And since the electron structures are different for each kind of atom or ion, the photon energies that each kind will absorb are also different."
Spectra
False! That only applies IN this state we know at present. The atomic relationships in a different state with forces we know not here, do not need to work that way at all. You assume. You project mentally. You do not know.
Please learn what star spectra really are, and then get back to me.
It is meaningless, unless we know how big and far they are, for the most part for starters, obviously. It is meaningless if there is another set of forces and laws and time and space way out there. It is meaningless if there is more than we can see and detect with our earth state fishbowl instruments as well, obviously. Try to get your mind free. The universe is so much bigger and more interesting than what fishbowl so called science has pulpit pounded for too long now.
