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Freemasonry, Illuminati NWO

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Okay, touchy subject here with a lot of people. The Lord has taught me quite a bit about this and how all of these "societies" play a role in the new world order (the order that the 'man of sin' rises out of).

H.A.A.R.P
Illuminati
Free Masons
Skull and bones
Bohemian Grove

All have one thing in common: a tool used by satan to bring about world deception and give rise to the man of sin. satan will use "lying signs and wonders" to deceive. H.A.A.R.P could be part of that (speculation on my part).
Have you ever looked at the back of your dollar bill? Notice the pyramid with the capstone with an all-seeing-eye? Pagan symbols that can be traced as far back as ancient Egypt are seen on our money and in our nation's capitol.

Our "Washington Monument" is nothing more than an Egyptian Obelisk, used to represent the sun god "ra".... and these obelisks can be found all over the world. We pass over these illuminati "finger prints" in our every day life because we've become so accustomed to seeing them, we never question what it means!

Aliens are promoted by the NWO as "ascended masters" who will take the world into an age of enlightenment. The name ILLUMINATI means: "The enlightened ones". These "aliens" are not aliens, but are demons and fallen angels used by the satan to deceive the world. All new age religion is founded on satanic illuminati/new world order thinking: that man will "ascend into a higher consciousness" via the help of our friendly "alien" brothers! Lies, lies..... the world will swallow this lie, "The Lord sends them (the world/the lost) a strong delusion that they would believe the lie."

If you have members of Masons and/or Illuminati in your church home or in your family, please pray for them that the Lord would open their eyes to the heresy of this and ask that the Lord lead them out of darkness. Pray for the every day American who walks by illuminati symbols each day, without thinking twice about it and asking "why" Or "What is this doing on my money?"

In the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., the Mayan calendar is portrayed by stone images around the circumference of the building and at the very top is a "mural" of George Washington, surrounded by beings of enlightenment and it says, "The Apotheosis of Washington". I know because I live an hour away from D.C. and have seen this for myself. The "Apotheosis of Washington" represents Washington ascending into enlightenment. Enlightenment into what?

The Masons and illuminati have many influences in society and are "hidden in plain sight". Just Google it and see for yourself how evil this truly is. As Christians, we trust the Lord, not fretting when evil men try to carry out their evil agendas, because the Lord is in control and wins in the end!

SIDE NOTE: We are not to focus on these people or their agendas, we are to "fix" our eyes on Jesus, however, we are also urged by Paul not to be "unaware of satan's devices/tactics"... be shrewd as a snake but as innocent as a lamb Jesus said!

Just passing on this information to you all.

May the Lord bless you.
Shulamite
 
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Good one Shulamite,2 true.
I think that a lot of Christians don't like to talk about things like this due to humiliation etc of what non believers AND other Christians might say.
Its funny but it seems to me that a lot of Christians seem to think that the Spirit world does not exist(satan,fallen angels etc).Connected is the influence that satan has had and contuines to have(whilst God watches on)on the decisions made in governments etc which are shaping our world into the one that is to come.
As you say it is all hidden in plain sight.I recall some doco quite a while ago on pretty much the same topic and questions were asked about how this or that came to be on this or that with no one sure.Some of it being pretty monumental stuff.
I think its all about conditioning,getting us slowly used to ideas etc.
The thing about this arguement is that it is easy to be critical of it with someone saying-"your paranoid,wheres the proof"etc etc BUT if you(you'd think)believe in God whats happening is all pretty much outlined in the Bible as going to happen and as far as i'm concerned it only strengthens my faith(which i need at times)to see these eye boggling things out there.
Romans 12:12 is a good one.
 
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Amen. Your comments are appreciated. Agreed 100%. The Beast System from which the "man of sin" arises will be out of the NWO (Novus Ordo Seclorum). This Novus Ordo Seclorum is the Mason/Illuminati system.


Paul says, "have nothing to do with the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but RATHER EXPOSE THEM." Ephesians 5:11

So, expose I will! LOL
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http://youtu.be/eFsEnNYtMqg
FOX NEWS STORY REGARDING MASONRY
 
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That's really, really bad translation of the latin.
Annuit Coeptus= He has approved our undertaking.
E Pluribus Unum= Out of many, one. IE, out of the many colonies, one country.
Novus Ordo Seclorum= New Order of the Ages.

Actually, that entire diagram is bad.
It's just too much to correct.
 
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The Southern Baptist Church I attend has at one deacon and another senior member that are Freemasons~~I was quite surprised to find that out.

Wow. I am glad you shared that. I attend a southern baptist church and have recently heard that there are a lot of Masons/Illuminati infiltrating the SBC convention. The SBC's stance on Masonry a few years back was VERY VAGUE and did not oppose it, but said, "We leave it up to each man to decide for himself." Excuse me??!!! Masonry is direct opposition to the Gospel, is originated from satan and is occultic. It has NO place in our churches. As Paul said, "You cannot drink from the cup of demons and still sit at the Lord's table."
 
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Still,re-opened my eyes back to the whole scenerio.
Got the general gist of it,might take a look on google or something.
Interesting stuff,that's for real.
Romans 12:12.
Philippians 2:3.

Thanks for your remarks! Yes, PLEASE look into this. I am not advocating an unhealthy focus on these societies (originating from satan, our enemy) but I am saying to be informed so we know how to witness to these people or spread the truth if we have a family member or church member caught in the snares of this. We are to warn, admonish and rebuke with the truth, in love, and we cannot do this if we are unaware of this.

I feel a STRONG leading from the Lord to witness to these people an to expose this whether online or in person in day to day life with others. Ephesians 5:11 says, "Expose the deeds of darkness".
 
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Hey.I don't think it's unhealthy to focus on these societies etc as wether giving Praise to our Lord or exposing evil its all good as i believe one of satans biggest deceptions is to make people believe he and God doesn't exist.
At the end of the day we won't stop this coming to pass but the more people made aware of it,changing their lives because of it the better.
As Ephesians 5:11 says.
 
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Wow. I am glad you shared that. I attend a southern baptist church and have recently heard that there are a lot of Masons/Illuminati infiltrating the SBC convention. The SBC's stance on Masonry a few years back was VERY VAGUE and did not oppose it, but said, "We leave it up to each man to decide for himself." Excuse me??!!! Masonry is direct opposition to the Gospel, is originated from satan and is occultic. It has NO place in our churches. As Paul said, "You cannot drink from the cup of demons and still sit at the Lord's table."

SBC site:

19. What is the SBC's stance on "Freemasonry?"

The SBC passed a resolution in 1992 opposing membership and participation in organizations that contradict the Bible (SBC Resolution: RESOLUTION ON CHRISTIAN WITNESS AND VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATIONS), but these resolutions are not binding upon local churches.

In its 1993 report, the SBC stated that there were aspects of Freemasonry that are incompatible with Christianity. The main conclusion of the report states:

We conclude that many tenets and teachings of Freemasonry are not compatible with Christianity or Southern Baptist doctrine.
About Us - Basic Beliefs

Still the SBC isn't a denomination per se so there isn't really anything that can be enforced I suppose?:confused:
 
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http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/freemasonry/freemary-and-the-sbc-the-story-goes-on-and-onson

The Convention and the Vote: The afterglow

It's an amazing thing that after the smoke had all settled, the Freemasons declared a mighty victory at the SBC. In the August/93 Scottish Rite Journal, (pp. 3-6) The Grand Commander, C. Fred Kleinknecht, called the vote historic, saying, "this [vote was the] significant turning point for modern Freemasonry."
And well it might be. The Masonic Fraternity believes it has withstood its most severe challenge in more than a century.
To the shame of the SBC's commitment to Biblical standards, the Convention, by an overwhelming majority approved the report and recommendation on Freemasonry issued by the SBC Home Missions Board, which listed a number of things about Freemasonry that were compatible with Christianity and a number of things that were not. The report went on to say that membership in a Masonic order was the business of the individual, not the church.
The Masonic Grand Commander called it a great victory. He stated that by its vote, the SBC had "... joined Freemasonry in its elevation of individual conscience as the guide to personal beliefs and actions."

Interesting......
Taking a "neutral" stance on something is not taking a stance at all.... Thanks for sharing, brother.

ANOTHER LINK OF INTEREST:
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/freemasonry/freemasonry-and-the-southern-baptist-church

I'm not bashing the SBC, I happen to worship with other believers in an SBC, however, I do not call myself a "baptist" or any other denominational name. I follow Jesus alone and fellowship with a church family. However, we cannot turn a blind eye on this issue within certain SBC churches and if we happen to meet others who attend our churches and are involved in this, we are commanded to confront it in love and expose it, Ephesians 5:11
 
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Do you vote?


Sorry for the delay in my response, brother. Yes, I do vote. I believe there are "under-currents" in the government (ie.. the masons/illuminati agendas), but I vote anyway so that my voice may be heard. I vote conservative. However, due to the corrupt nature of the infiltration of the masons and illuminati in our governments around the world, I do not know what effect my vote has, but yes, I do vote anyway and try to vote for the candidate that best represents christian conservative values.
 
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Sorry for the delay in my response, brother. Yes, I do vote. I believe there are "under-currents" in the government (ie.. the masons/illuminati agendas), but I vote anyway so that my voice may be heard. I vote conservative. However, due to the corrupt nature of the infiltration of the masons and illuminati in our governments around the world, I do not know what effect my vote has, but yes, I do vote anyway and try to vote for the candidate that best represents christian conservative values.
Amen :thumbsup:

I also vote, and vote conservative and Biblical values. I studied a lot into the new world order, illuminati, etc, early in my Christian walk, until a rommate asked me a practical question I didn't really have a good answer for. He asked, "what can you do with all that knowledge? What do you do or actions do you take as a result of it?" I really didn't know other than to be aware and not be fooled. We both already voted our Biblical beliefs and conscience.

Understand, at the time it had become an obsession with me, so I'm not criticizing anyone's discussion of it. I just realized I needed to move on. I now knew some of these things happened behind the scenes, it helped me interpret some of the things ever since then on the news, kept me from giving myself to any candidate or politician knowing there are things behind the scenes you don't know, but beyond that wasn't useful in furthering my spiritual walk toward maturity and victory over every known sin in my life.

Blessings,
H.

 
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Very true that we need not be "focused/fixed" on these evil societies, but I find that since the Lord began to reveal to me these things, He's laid on my heart to expose it (when He leads and gives me opportunity). Keeping our hearts fixed on Jesus, the Author and perfector of our faith" is what is important.
I find that knowing the enemy's tactics, as Paul said he did, has helped me be effective in witnessing to others, planting seeds and also to warn others not to "believe everything" they hear, but to "test everything" as we are commanded in the scriptures. One of satan's greatest deceptions may come through these evil societies..... perhaps the Beast system? Food for thought.

I feel the Lord has given me permission to use this knowledge to be a "watchman" on the wall and plant seeds as I go, without it taking up my life or focus.

Thanks for your comments!
 
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It's good to be attentive to things that are ungodly. But I wouldn't let this take up my time, unless you feel a calling to speak against it and work against it. The issue isn't the Masons, if they're evil (or any other group for that matter). The issue is lost people who do not have a relationship with God and with those who are saved but aren't growing and making Christian disciple-makers.

I think I would focus on winning those in your circle of influence to Christ and help them to grow in their faith. God bless!
 
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In 1913 the take over of America began, and she has been ran by a group of elite bankers ever since, and their goal is the NWO. They've been alluding to an alien invasion ever since Ronald Regen was President, and have used mass media to plant the seed in the minds of the people. These corporate and banker elites, have many plans of action going on at once, with many layers of mis-information and propaganda to hide behind, but their goal toward stripping all countries of there national borders, is being realized more and more.
 
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In 1913 the take over of America began, and she has been ran by a group of elite bankers ever since, and their goal is the NWO. They've been alluding to an alien invasion ever since Ronald Regen was President, and have used mass media to plant the seed in the minds of the people. These corporate and banker elites, have many plans of action going on at once, with many layers of mis-information and propaganda to hide behind, but their goal toward stripping all countries of there national borders, is being realized more and more.


Agreed 100% and very well said. :thumbsup:
Ronald Reagan addressed the U.N. a couple of times and in various other places as saying that "if an outside alien invasion were to take place, how easily our world-wide differences would vanish." Wow, talk about the one world government! Most people believe that these "UFO"'s and "Aliens" are truly aliens, visiting us and making contact. They are NOT aliens, but fallen angels/demons preparing for the Great Deception of satan before the "man of sin" comes on the scene.

Anyway, thank you for your comment! I agree. Let's continue to pray for people's eyes to be opened by the Holy Spirit and that the Lord will create more opportunities to expose the evil of these societies (Ephesians 5:11) and to tell them about Jesus.
 
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