New 9/11 Investigation Marks Decade Milestone

[RealDealNeverstop]

At least read the link at the bottom:
BBC - The Editors: 9/11 conspiracy theory


"The confusion over names and identities we reported back in 2001 may have arisen because these were common Arabic and Islamic names"

Except it is a great coincidence they happened to go to the same flight schools. Bah, stick with the OCT.

 

[Touma]

Except it is a great coincidence they happened to go to the same flight schools. Bah, stick with the OCT.

I'll stick with logic, reasoning, and science. All of which have thoroughly disproven the 9/11 conspiracy theories.

 

[prophecyistrue]

I think you may want to reread what he said to you.

no I got it all right!

 

[prophecyistrue]

I'll stick with logic, reasoning, and science. All of which have thoroughly disproven the 9/11 conspiracy theories.

ha ha ha yeah thats logical!.....you should of bought a lottery ticket on 911 it would of been sure to be a winner,

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

I'll stick with logic, reasoning, and science. All of which have thoroughly disproven the 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Lol...there is the usual list of words. What undermines this particular post is the silent admission it was not logic, reason, or science that proved the OCT is correct.

 

[Btodd]

Lol...there is the usual list of words. What undermines this particular post is the silent admission it was not logic, reason, or science that proved the OCT is correct.

LOL. 'Silent admission'. You just silently admitted that no explosives were used in the towers. Why? Because I said so.

Please continue with the 'hijackers are still alive' hypothesis; I'm not all-laughed-out yet.


Btodd

 

[Touma]

ha ha ha yeah thats logical!.....you should of bought a lottery ticket on 911 it would of been sure to be a winner,

Lol...there is the usual list of words. What undermines this particular post is the silent admission it was not logic, reason, or science that proved the OCT is correct.

I let facts speak for themselves:
9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Pentagon - Flight 93 - Popular Mechanics
Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition Homepage

And what do you have? Youtube videos made by a guy living in his mom's basement? Yeah, I'll stick with science.

 

[prophecyistrue]

I let facts speak for themselves:
9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Pentagon - Flight 93 - Popular Mechanics
Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition Homepage

And what do you have? Youtube videos made by a guy living in his mom's basement? Yeah, I'll stick with science.

you seem to know alot about the videos and where there made, and who makes them. and all this at the young age of 24, or maybe you were reflecting on your own position in life....say hi to the moms for me....ha ha ha!

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

I let facts speak for themselves:
9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Pentagon - Flight 93 - Popular Mechanics
Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition Homepage

And what do you have? Youtube videos made by a guy living in his mom's basement? Yeah, I'll stick with science.

Citing Pop Mech is like truthers citing loosechange. Do you have any of your own actual thoughts on the issue? (It is pretty funny the official report didn't get cited)

 

[Touma]

you seem to know alot about the videos and where there made, and who makes them. and all this at the young age of 24, or maybe you were reflecting on your own position in life....say hi to the moms for me....ha ha ha!

You obviously know nothing about me. I'm 800 miles away from my parents, who live in Illinois. But that is neither here nor there, nor is my age. I have met people older than me, who happen to have no knowledge or common sense, and have met people younger than me, who happen to be brillant. What matters is not age, or even living situation (I'll admit, it was a cheap shot to discredit the guy), but the facts they present and whether or not they speak the truth. Simply put, these 9/11 Truthers don't have their view based in reality. Reality states that a plane can indeed bring down a building, and two planes can bring down two buildings. And other buildings, which are only a few hundred feet away from said collapsing buildings, will most likely be damaged by those collapsing structures that happen to be over a thousand feet. There is no conspiracy.

And the most simple question to ask that debunks the whole thing is this:
If this was a conspiracy, then why do we know about it? Wouldn't they make it fool proof? Silence objectors? Hide all evidence which could be used against them? I can easily go and find thousands of pictures from 9/11 right now on Google. Shouldn't they be classified if they government wanted to keep this a secret?


There is NO conspiracy. Sorry, but the world is, in fact, chaotic like that.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

You obviously know nothing about me. I'm 800 miles away from my parents, who live in Illinois. But that is neither here nor there, nor is my age. I have met people older than me, who happen to have no knowledge or common sense, and have met people younger than me, who happen to be brillant. What matters is not age, or even living situation (I'll admit, it was a cheap shot to discredit the guy), but the facts they present and whether or not they speak the truth. Simply put, these 9/11 Truthers don't have their view based in reality. Reality states that a plane can indeed bring down a building, and two planes can bring down two buildings. And other buildings, which are only a few hundred feet away from said collapsing buildings, will most likely be damaged by those collapsing structures that happen to be over a thousand feet. There is no conspiracy.

And the most simple question to ask that debunks the whole thing is this:
If this was a conspiracy, then why do we know about it? Wouldn't they make it fool proof? Silence objectors? Hide all evidence which could be used against them? I can easily go and find thousands of pictures from 9/11 right now on Google. Shouldn't they be classified if they government wanted to keep this a secret?


There is NO conspiracy. Sorry, but the world is, in fact, chaotic like that.

What happened to all that logic? You think it would be possible to keep all info classified? What exactly does "fool proof" mean in this context? Speaking of planes and buildings, it took NIST 7 years to publish their report on wtc 7. What does logic and reason imply? If it was really as simple as you claimed then explain how it took seven years for nist to give the explanation.....

 

[Btodd]

What happened to all that logic? You think it would be possible to keep all info classified? What exactly does "fool proof" mean in this context? Speaking of planes and buildings, it took NIST 7 years to publish their report on wtc 7. What does logic and reason imply? If it was really as simple as you claimed then explain how it took seven years for nist to give the explanation.....

By all means, tell us what the time taken on WTC7 'implies', and then tell us how it makes any sense for any conspiracy you want to propose about 9/11.

Destroying files?
Making Silverstein richer?

Surprise us with a logical explanation.


Btodd

 

[Touma]

What happened to all that logic? You think it would be possible to keep all info classified? What exactly does "fool proof" mean in this context? Speaking of planes and buildings, it took NIST 7 years to publish their report on wtc 7. What does logic and reason imply? If it was really as simple as you claimed then explain how it took seven years for nist to give the explanation.....

And if it was a conspiracy, wouldn't they have the report already prepared? Or perhaps the report was more than "lol, these buildings fell and caused this one to fall. The end" I haven't read the report, but I imagine it is very detailed, and they probably had to do a lot of research and testing and all that. Unlike the conspiracy theorists, these people work with science and want to make sure they get it right before opening their mouths.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

And if it was a conspiracy, wouldn't they have the report already prepared? Or perhaps the report was more than "lol, these buildings fell and caused this one to fall. The end" I haven't read the report, but I imagine it is very detailed, and they probably had to do a lot of research and testing and all that. Unlike the conspiracy theorists, these people work with science and want to make sure they get it right before opening their mouths.

That is the best you can come up with? It took seven years to explain what you described as obvious and the best you can do is say if it was a conspiracy then they would have had the report ready? Good...grief.

 

[Touma]

That is the best you can come up with? It took seven years to explain what you described as obvious and the best you can do is say if it was a conspiracy then they would have had the report ready? Good...grief.

Let's make it simple for you, using an analogy.

Pretend this group is Isaac Newton. He saw an apple fall from the tree. He observed it, and came up with a preliminary explanation for it. Yet, he didn't right away have a math equation explaining what just happened. He knew there was a force that acted on the apple to bring it down. It took time to develop the formula.

Likewise, it is easy to see that really high buildings, made of very heavy materials, would crash down and damage nearby structure, even the the point of causing collapse of one nearby. It is easy to observe that. However, for a report to be published and things to be considered 100% fact, there must be science and math behind it. Those things take time. Models have to be made. People have to be interviews. Pictures and videos have to be analyzed, as does evidence from the scene. They have to go over the structure blueprints and dimensions, and all of this. Its not as simple as you are trying to make it.

 

[Btodd]

Let's make it simple for you, using an analogy.

Pretend this group is Isaac Newton. He saw an apple fall from the tree. He observed it, and came up with a preliminary explanation for it. Yet, he didn't right away have a math equation explaining what just happened. He knew there was a force that acted on the apple to bring it down. It took time to develop the formula.

Likewise, it is easy to see that really high buildings, made of very heavy materials, would crash down and damage nearby structure, even the the point of causing collapse of one nearby. It is easy to observe that. However, for a report to be published and things to be considered 100% fact, there must be science and math behind it. Those things take time. Models have to be made. People have to be interviews. Pictures and videos have to be analyzed, as does evidence from the scene. They have to go over the structure blueprints and dimensions, and all of this. Its not as simple as you are trying to make it.

I certainly wouldn't worry about appeals to WTC7 as part of any conspiracy. Almost 10 years after it happened, we can't even get Truthers to explain what it would even mean in regard to a conspiracy. No motive, no explosions...no nothing. Just incredulity passed off as an argument for something sinister.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Let's make it simple for you, using an analogy.

Pretend this group is Isaac Newton. He saw an apple fall from the tree. He observed it, and came up with a preliminary explanation for it. Yet, he didn't right away have a math equation explaining what just happened. He knew there was a force that acted on the apple to bring it down. It took time to develop the formula.

Likewise, it is easy to see that really high buildings, made of very heavy materials, would crash down and damage nearby structure, even the the point of causing collapse of one nearby. It is easy to observe that. However, for a report to be published and things to be considered 100% fact, there must be science and math behind it. Those things take time. Models have to be made. People have to be interviews. Pictures and videos have to be analyzed, as does evidence from the scene. They have to go over the structure blueprints and dimensions, and all of this. Its not as simple as you are trying to make it.

You are contradicting yourself again. You claimed it was obvious what happened yet it took seven YEARS for nist to explain wtc 7. You already admitted you have not read the Report which means you admittedly defend the OCT based on pure ignorance.

 

[Touma]

I certainly wouldn't worry about appeals to WTC7 as part of any conspiracy. Almost 10 years after it happened, we can't even get Truthers to explain what it would even mean in regard to a conspiracy. No motive, no explosions...no nothing. Just incredulity passed off as an argument for something sinister.


Btodd

Yeah, I don't quite get why the WTC7 needed to be collapsed either. I've never heard an explanation, and based on the responses in this thread, it seems evident that these people don't really think it through.

 

[Wayte]

You are contradicting yourself again. You claimed it was obvious what happened yet it took seven YEARS for nist to explain wtc 7. You already admitted you have not read the Report which means you admittedly defend the OCT based on pure ignorance.

You're silly. This conspiracy theory is silly. Stop being silly.

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Yeah, I don't quite get why the WTC7 needed to be collapsed either. I've never heard an explanation, and based on the responses in this thread, it seems evident that these people don't really think it through.

You clearly don't even know the basic facts about your own position so it is ironic you criticize others. You don't even know fire alone is what NIST credited for the collapse of 7.