Update on Fr. John Corapi

[isshinwhat]

One place I found I needed to turn in session cookies on but I couldn't. Find this though and hope it helps. Has a whole bunch you can watch.

YouTube - ‪Bishop Fulton Sheen- His Last Words Part I‬‏

Thank you.

 

[Basil the Great]

I believe that Sheen's series ran on ABC in the 1950's.

 

[Davidnic]

It was originally on the Dumont network.

 

[StThomasMore]

Everyone is assuming SOLT is standing up for truth and ready to metaphorically kill this stupid priest. Yet SOLT is doing their own running and won't respond to question. It's true innocent until proven guilty is a fantasy

SOLTs statements are utterly guilty of detraction. Why would SOLT make such a statement public if they supposedly respect the privacy of their members? Hence SOLT just becomes as guilty as trying to use a public forum to try to degrade and rid someone. How long as Corapi been with SOLT? and then all of a sudden he is unfit for priestly ministry? Candidateship to SOLT doesn't even list anything regarding taking a vow of poverty, and yet they claim that Corapi didn't follow the vows of poverty in their society? Something just doesn't add up right

Secondly, why are these supposed facts from them always from anonymous peoples who they don't even list or name. The amount of vagueness regarding 'some woman in Montana' and hearsay from people not even named seems really unconvincing to me. Sexting? Do they actually even have the text messages from his phone to prove this even?

 

[Davidnic]

Because they did not want him lying to everyone on his Black Sheep Dog site. Why they released it is right in the start of the document.

They are protecting the faithful from lies.

Well we can see...if after their general meeting (which is happening now) maybe they will release some of the evidence.

People will not want to believe the investigation just like they did not with Fr. Marcel Maciel.

 

[JoabAnias]

Because they did not want him lying to everyone on his Black Sheep Dog site. Why they released it is right in the start of the document.

They are protecting the faithful from lies.

Well we can see...if after their general meeting (which is happening now) maybe they will release some of the evidence.

People will not want to believe the investigation just like they did not with Fr. Marcel Maciel.

What do you make of the claim of being advised to initiate the suit?

 

[isshinwhat]

Because they did not want him lying to everyone on his Black Sheep Dog site. Why they released it is right in the start of the document.

They are protecting the faithful from lies.

Well we can see...if after their general meeting (which is happening now) maybe they will release some of the evidence.

People will not want to believe the investigation just like they did not with Fr. Marcel Maciel.

And that is the key. Innocent until proven guilty, and right now no one, including Father Corapi, has proven anything! Claims left, claims right, and no evidence one way or the other. SOLT says Fr. Corapi hindered the investigation, Fr. Corapi says he was advised to press with a civil suit by Bishop Gracida and the Founder of SOLT (bishop Gracida acknowledges this) due to the way SOLT initiated the proceedings... It's a mess, but it will work itself out one way or the other. I just pray for the scandal all this has caused, and the calumny and lack of charity that will weight the souls of so many on all "sides" of the playing field.

 

[LinuxUser]

Innocent until...don't remind me of the Casey A, case, lol

That's only in Fl

 

[Davidnic]

What do you make of the claim of being advised to initiate the suit?

Personally, watching this from the start and just looking at how it all went down timeline...I think he is a liar and I do not believe a word he says. I pray for him but I think he is a liar. I believe SOLT and think he should listen to his order as he vowed. Corapi seems to have lied in many statements or at least misrepresented the actual known timeline. He is slowly being caught in a web of his own lies and leading people to attack Bishops and SOLT.

Too much stinks here. I am not saying SOLT bears no responsibility for allowing this to all take root and grow. They fostered his cult of personality for obvious reasons and allowed him a long leash, so to speak...not a pun on his black sheep dog nonsense.

Now they have to come clean with what they found. And they have done that...because if they did not all of this will come out and they need to get above it and do the right thing, even though late...by calling him to obedience.

His lawyers may have advised he sue the woman based on violation of a gag order in her contract but he is a priest before all else. Or he should be.

I respect what good he did but at this point I find him really sad and I believe that SOLT is not lying. I do not really engage in shadow conspiracies where entire orders of the Catholic Church are out to get one lone black sheep dog.

Soon we will have Da Vinci code albino assassins and evil shadow orders of the Roman Church stalking the one good priest with the secret to bring them all down.

Corapi is on a path to become a parody of himself. Dan Brown novels do not translate to reality and for Corapi to be right they would have to do so.

 

[Chrystal-J]

From Corapi's Blog:
I resigned because the process used by the Church is grossly unjust, and, hence, immoral. I resigned because I had no chance from the beginning of a fair and just hearing.

A lot of things in life are unjust--are we supposed to just walk when the going gets tough? With that philosophy, why not just get a divorce when your marriage is on the rocks?
After reading this blog entry, I keep getting the feeling it's all about him and not the church or it's people.

 

[Davidnic]

And that is the key. Innocent until proven guilty, and right now no one, including Father Corapi, has proven anything! Claims left, claims right, and no evidence one way or the other. SOLT says Fr. Corapi hindered the investigation, Fr. Corapi says he was advised to press with a civil suit by Bishop Gracida and the Founder of SOLT (bishop Gracida acknowledges this) due to the way SOLT initiated the proceedings... It's a mess, but it will work itself out one way or the other. I just pray for the scandal all this has caused, and the calumny and lack of charity that will weight the souls of so many on all "sides" of the playing field.

People can have opinions based on what they see happening. If SOLT says they have evidence and this is the result of their investigation then I believe them. If Corapi wants them to make it all public then I suppose he can push for that. I think SOLT has shown that if he keeps, according to them, lying...then they will counter with more and more details of the truth.

 

[Michie]

From Corapi's Blog:
I resigned because the process used by the Church is grossly unjust, and, hence, immoral. I resigned because I had no chance from the beginning of a fair and just hearing.

A lot of things in life are unjust--are we supposed to just walk when the going gets tough? With that philosophy, why not just get a divorce when your marriage is on the rocks?
After reading this blog entry, I keep getting the feeling it's all about him and not the church or it's people.

I think that is becoming painfully obvious.

 

[Davidnic]

From Corapi's Blog:
I resigned because the process used by the Church is grossly unjust, and, hence, immoral. I resigned because I had no chance from the beginning of a fair and just hearing.

A lot of things in life are unjust--are we supposed to just walk when the going gets tough? With that philosophy, why not just get a divorce when your marriage is on the rocks?
After reading this blog entry, I keep getting the feeling it's all about him and not the church or it's people.

My thoughts too. When he resigned I saw it as someone who would leave their spouse. Every blog entry he makes is more and more ego.

 

[Michie]

My main question has been & continues to be is why Corapi seemed to be exempt from the order's rules of poverty, community, etc.?

I think SOLT itself owes an explaination on that.

 

[LinuxUser]

When things become unjust to the point nothing you can do will be heard then the only option is to leave. Some people seem to think the process is easy and fine, let the Church do their thing yet don't realize that the process has become unfair and corrupt since the abuse scandal.

Instead of being a normal process they make it into a witch hunt, Fr. Corapi will never get a fair shake and was advised as such by a Bishop

 

[LinuxUser]

My main question has been & continues to be is why Corapi seemed to be exempt from the order's rules of poverty, community, etc.?

I think SOLT itself owes an explaination on that.

Because as been explained in several places the vows came after he was in and he was not required to take them

 

[JoabAnias]

And that is the key. Innocent until proven guilty, and right now no one, including Father Corapi, has proven anything! Claims left, claims right, and no evidence one way or the other. SOLT says Fr. Corapi hindered the investigation, Fr. Corapi says he was advised to press with a civil suit by Bishop Gracida and the Founder of SOLT (bishop Gracida acknowledges this) due to the way SOLT initiated the proceedings... It's a mess, but it will work itself out one way or the other. I just pray for the scandal all this has caused, and the calumny and lack of charity that will weight the souls of so many on all "sides" of the playing field.

I can't verify this, but read earlier this morning (think in a comment on Aikin's blog) that Bishop Gracida has said he hasn't spoken with Fr. Corapi for a long time.

That intrigues me and there seems to be something missing there. If it wasn't Bishop Gracida, could it have been another Bishop, or no Bishop at all?

And what do we know of the founder of the SOLT exactly?

I have been following the accuser on her face book page and a forum she is trying to get going for the past few months. Its almost impossible to determine any guilt or innocence for sure.

It does not look good for Corapi that SOLT believes they have corroborated evidence.

I've heard nothing but good about Fr. Sheehan. There is no reason to believe he or the SOLT commission would lie.

 

[StThomasMore]

the worst of all of this is Corapi leaving the priesthood. His sermons brought many to Christ. His section on the radio was always on when I went to work in my car and now because of this I cannot hear him preach anymore when I go to work in my car in the morning. The only other show I liked was "Life is worth Living", but while I love Fulton Sheen he speaks from an era that is different than today, whereas Corapi spoke about what was happening this moment.

 

[LinuxUser]

I can't verify this, but read earlier this morning (think in a comment on Aikin's blog) that Bishop Gracida has said he hasn't spoken with Fr. Corapi for a long time.

That intrigues me and there seems to be something missing there. If it wasn't Bishop Gracida, could it have been another Bishop, or no Bishop at all?

And what do we know of the founder of the SOLT exactly?

I have been following the accuser on her face book page and a forum she is trying to get going for the past few months. Its almost impossible to determine any guilt or innocence for sure.

It does not look good for Corapi that SOLT believes they have corroborated evidence.

I've heard nothing but good about Fr. Sheehan. There is no reason to believe he or the SOLT commission would lie.

Here is the Bishop himself:

It is true that I have not had any direct contact, verbal or otherwise, with Father John Corapi for many years now. I made my suggestion to him that probably the only way he could clear his name would be through a civil law suit filed against his accuser. I made the suggestion to Father James Flanagan, the Priest General Servant Emeritus, and Father Flanagan entrusted the message to Father Anthony Anderson, SOLT, who flew to Montana and personally delivered the suggestion to Father Corapi. I share your concern for Father Corapi’s wellbeing, but unfortunately I have neither his email address nor his telephone number.
+rhg

So you can see Fr Corapi was not lying

 

[JoabAnias]

My thoughts too. When he resigned I saw it as someone who would leave their spouse. Every blog entry he makes is more and more ego.

If a spouse is being abused, a separation is advised by the Church.