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It has been over a year since the passing of Howard Zinn, but let us again this July 4th recall his wise admonitions against the evils of nationalism. The idolatry toward the flag and the murderous empire it represents is especially shocking coming from self-proclaimed Christians in America.

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On this July 4, we would do well to renounce nationalism and all its symbols: its flags, its pledges of allegiance, its anthems, its insistence in song that God must single out America to be blessed.

Is not nationalism -- that devotion to a flag, an anthem, a boundary so fierce it engenders mass murder -- one of the great evils of our time, along with racism, along with religious hatred?

These ways of thinking -- cultivated, nurtured, indoctrinated from childhood on -- have been useful to those in power, and deadly for those out of power.

National spirit can be benign in a country that is small and lacking both in military power and a hunger for expansion (Switzerland, Norway, Costa Rica and many more). But in a nation like ours -- huge, possessing thousands of weapons of mass destruction -- what might have been harmless pride becomes an arrogant nationalism dangerous to others and to ourselves.

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It has been over a year since the passing of Howard Zinn, but let us again this July 4th recall his wise admonitions against the evils of nationalism. The idolatry toward the flag and the murderous empire it represents is especially shocking coming from self-proclaimed Christians in America.

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It has been over a year since the passing of Howard Zinn, but let us again this July 4th recall his wise admonitions against the evils of nationalism. The idolatry toward the flag and the murderous empire it represents is especially shocking coming from self-proclaimed Christians in America.

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Defensor Fidei said:
It has been over a year since the passing of Howard Zinn, but let us again this July 4th recall his wise admonitions against the evils of nationalism. The idolatry toward the flag and the murderous empire it represents is especially shocking coming from self-proclaimed Christians in America.

Put away the flags | The Progressive

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HECK NO!

Read the Declaration of Independence. Our Founding Fathers declared and sought the authority and sanction of God that we be freed from the tyranny of those who would enslave us.

It is as true today as it was then.

America is a blessed nation, blessed by God, allowed to be in existence by God. The gospel of Jesus goes into all the world from this nation. God uses this nation for His will and purpose.

We, the people, must worship and obey His will, rules and laws to continue in our Divine blessings. The fact that we have immoral, dishonest, and dishonorable leaders is a testament to our own lack of resolve in holding on to the founding principles, firm in Christianity and the Judeo-Christian beliefs.

We are to love God with all our heart and mind and love our neighbor as ourselves, having justice and freedom as our standard.
That is the command of Jesus and the foundation and very heart of America.
 
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HECK NO!

Read the Declaration of Independence. Our Founding Fathers declared and sought the authority and sanction of God that we be freed from the tyranny of those who would enslave us.

It is as true today as it was then.

America is a blessed nation, blessed by God, allowed to be in existence by God. The gospel of Jesus goes into all the world from this nation. God uses this nation for His will and purpose.

We, the people, must worship and obey His will, rules and laws to continue in our Divine blessings. The fact that we have immoral, dishonest, and dishonorable leaders is a testament to our own lack of resolve in holding on to the founding principles, firm in Christianity and the Judeo-Christian beliefs.

We are to love God with all our heart and mind and love our neighbor as ourselves.
That is the command of Jesus and the foundation and very heart of America.

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HECK NO!

Read the Declaration of Independence. Our Founding Fathers declared and sought the authority and sanction of God that we be freed from the tyranny of those who would enslave us.

It is as true today as it was then.

America is a blessed nation, blessed by God, allowed to be in existence by God. The gospel of Jesus goes into all the world from this nation. God uses this nation for His will and purpose.

We, the people, must worship and obey His will, rules and laws to continue in our Divine blessings. The fact that we have immoral, dishonest, and dishonorable leaders is a testament to our own lack of resolve in holding on to the founding principles, firm in Christianity and the Judeo-Christian beliefs.

We are to love God with all our heart and mind and love our neighbor as ourselves, having justice and freedom as our standard.
That is the command of Jesus and the foundation and very heart of America.

Declaration of Independence - Transcript

"We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."


Mar 12:30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.
Mar 12:31 The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."

Luk 11:42 "Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone.
 
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It has been over a year since the passing of Howard Zinn, but let us again this July 4th recall his wise admonitions against the evils of nationalism. The idolatry toward the flag and the murderous empire it represents is especially shocking coming from self-proclaimed Christians in America.

Put away the flags | The Progressive

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Both sides of this make me facepalm. I love my country, I want to make it the best country I can, and I don't have to believe in fairy tales or wish really hard on my knees to make it happen. There is nothing wrong with loving the country I was born in, and working to make it as free as can be.

I'm an American, I'm a veteran, I'm a patriot, I'm an atheist, I'm a liberal.

All of you deal with it.
 
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It has been over a year since the passing of Howard Zinn, but let us again this July 4th recall his wise admonitions against the evils of nationalism. The idolatry toward the flag and the murderous empire it represents is especially shocking coming from self-proclaimed Christians in America.

Put away the flags | The Progressive

If it offends you so much, why don't you just come right on over here and take it down?

With one 30-round magazine, lock and load

Ready on the left....

Ready on the right....

Ready on the firing line.

Stand by to commence firing
 
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If it offends you so much, why don't you just come right on over here and take it down?

With one 30-round magazine, lock and load

Ready on the left....

Ready on the right....

Ready on the firing line.

Stand by to commence firing


Nothing says American (or Christian) like some good old-fashioned threats of violence, eh?
 
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Gishin said:
Both sides of this make me facepalm. I love my country, I want to make it the best country I can, and I don't have to believe in fairy tales or wish really hard on my knees to make it happen. There is nothing wrong with loving the country I was born in, and working to make it as free as can be.

I'm an American, I'm a veteran, I'm a patriot, I'm an atheist, I'm a liberal.

All of you deal with it.

No worries but inciting my beliefs as a fair tale is fighting words as to say being liberal is unpatriotic.
 
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Nothing says American (or Christian) like some good old-fashioned threats of violence, eh?

You are the advocating for the hatred and destruction of this nation based on twisted lies and distortions.

We have the right to freedom of speech, including love for our country, and the right to bear arms against those who would try to destroy us and take away our rights.
 
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HECK NO!

Read the Declaration of Independence. Our Founding Fathers declared and sought the authority and sanction of God that we be freed from the tyranny of those who would enslave us.

It is as true today as it was then.

America is a blessed nation, blessed by God, allowed to be in existence by God. The gospel of Jesus goes into all the world from this nation. God uses this nation for His will and purpose.
America is blessed. But it is no more blessed than any other nation. And based on the its actions over the years, the U.S. is clearly not a country guided by the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.

Your worshipful attitude toward the State borders on idolatry.
 
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It has been over a year since the passing of Howard Zinn, but let us again this July 4th recall his wise admonitions against the evils of nationalism. The idolatry toward the flag and the murderous empire it represents is especially shocking coming from self-proclaimed Christians in America.

Put away the flags | The Progressive
Come and take it.
 
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