Issues in Scienceville.

[AV1611VET]

I think our manual is the one with the one with the baby-eating and the Global Scientific Conspiracy membership requirements.

I was having trouble deciding what to cook for supper tonight until I read this post. Thanks dude.

(emphasis mine)

Make sure you marinate for at least 2 hours.

I like using Worcestershire sauce or even steak rub for extra seasoning.

Gross, isn't it?

 

[Insane_Duck]

Gross, isn't it?

Yes, it's disgustingly raw. Health and safety standards anyone?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, it's disgustingly raw. Health and safety standards anyone?

 

[Jro]

That baby looks very flat... Perhaps from a fall?!!?!?!

 

[sandwiches]

Gross, isn't it?

Yea... Because it's not real bread or cheese.

Now, this is what you should think of when you see my name:

Yummy.

 

[sandwiches]

That baby looks very flat... Perhaps from a fall?!!?!?!

ROFL!

This made me laugh so loudly!

 

[Inan3]

Arguments over one experiment hardly throw all of science into disarray. Kettlewell's experiments remain well supported and well evidenced despite the critiques levied against him- remember, this story is 12 years old. The scientists involved all support evolutionary biology, Jerry Coyne has been a vicious critic of all forms of religion and yet, they were in all likelihood wrong about Kettlewell's moths. You get people like this in science who, despite the majority opinion and majority of data, disagree. Alan Feduccia is another good example, off the top of my head. Very good biologist, disagrees with the prevailing notion that dinosaurs evolved into birds, and will defend that to the death. Universally considered very, very wrong at this point.

Yes, getting things published, ESPECIALLY controversial things is difficult. That's just par for course. If you don't have the necessary context to understand what the disagreement is over, you very well may think that these arguments throw everything into question... but they don't. Read the papers, go to the primary literature. Otherwise you're just crying 'HELP HELP THE SCIENTISTS ARE OPPRESSING PEOPLE' without any real evidence. Data is not kept at bay- it's pretty accessible if you look.

Amazon.com: Used and New: Evolutionary Biology

Here is a first edition of the book I was discussing on evolution. It is $2.74 plus shipping. It has the data in it and it offers citations to look up the primary literature that it uses to support it. I can vouch for Futuyma, he's a very good researcher and a very good writer, a rare combination.

Thank you Jro, a very nice post.... helpful... honest... informative. Very nice. I might even get that book.

I was wondering if you saw the new article I posted. It is my goal here to post different "issues" occasionally and I just posted one again #308 on June 2nd. Thanks again for your post.

 

[Jro]

ROFL!

This made me laugh so loudly!

I have a new theory that science should take very seriously as it provides physical evidence for Christianity. Flat creatures such as flounder and flying squirrels were damaged in the fall and retained their flat bodies. Admittedly, fusiform and compressed fish may seem like contrary evidence, but it's possible that they just fell on their side. Eels and snakes were perhaps rolled down the hill rather than falling.

 

[Jro]

Thank you Jro, a very nice post.... helpful... honest... informative. Very nice. I might even get that book.

I was wondering if you saw the new article I posted. It is my goal here to post different "issues" occasionally and I just posted one again #308 on June 2nd. Thanks again for your post.

Glad you liked it. For further reading, here's Kettlewell's original paper on Biston betularia- http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v9/n3/pdf/hdy195536a.pdf
FO' FREE!

Would you mind linking me to the other articles you've posted? I'd gladly read them, but I don't relish the thought of going through the whole thread. Is there some way to hit a 'go to #308'?

 

[pgp_protector]

Glad you liked it. For further reading, here's Kettlewell's original paper on Biston betularia- http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v9/n3/pdf/hdy195536a.pdf
FO' FREE!

Would you mind linking me to the other articles you've posted? I'd gladly read them, but I don't relish the thought of going through the whole thread. Is there some way to hit a 'go to #308'?

308

 

[Jro]

308

Thanks! Is there a way to do that really quickly so that I don't have to bug people next time? Or just elbow grease?

 

[pgp_protector]

Thanks! Is there a way to do that really quickly so that I don't have to bug people next time? Or just elbow grease?

I've got about 40 post per page, so I just had to go back a page or 2 to get the link.

 

[Inan3]

Thanks! Is there a way to do that really quickly so that I don't have to bug people next time? Or just elbow grease?

I don't know but go ahead and bug people. It happens all the time and it's a good practice for everyone to do something NICE for someone.

Someone nicely suggested to me that if there was a post I wanted to save I should bookmark it. I thought that was a good suggestion so I'm going to try to do this from now on, especially with the specific posts I put in for this thread so you can just ask me if you'd like. I won't mind. I think the person who begins the thread should be responsible for it also.

Here's is the other article I added #53 . So far I have only posted 3.

 

[Inan3]

308

Thanks pgp.

 

[Inan3]

Yes, it's disgustingly raw. Health and safety standards anyone?

It looks like a design to protect the baby from falling or when they do fall. Probably designed by a guy.

 

[Inan3]

It's a good question that I think deserves an answer. I'll look forward to a response.

Don't breathe deep and hold... not a good idea.... cause I'm not answering that question just for the reason it doesn't deserve an answer.

 

[Hespera]

Don't breathe deep and hold... not a good idea.... cause I'm not answering that question just for the reason it doesn't deserve an answer.

its ok we all know why* you wont answer


* its called "pwn"

 

[Nathan Poe]

Don't breathe deep and hold... not a good idea.... cause I'm not answering that question just for the reason it doesn't deserve an answer.

And THIS, not "discrimination," is the reason creationists aren't allowed in Scienceville -- too lazy to do the work and/or too proud to show their work.

Take your pick.

 

[selfinflikted]

its ok we all know why* you wont answer


* its called "pwn"

Honestly, this kinda tickled me.

 

[sandwiches]

Don't breathe deep and hold... not a good idea.... cause I'm not answering that question just for the reason it doesn't deserve an answer.

Are you really saying that the question of why Christian Colleges can't produce evidence for creationism does not deserve an answer?