Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments? (4)

[from scratch]

Now all you have to do is find it in OT..

Got ya. No problemo jus change the question. Yer not wanting the truth. Yer wanting yer way.

 

[Frogster]

amen.... Yeshua is the justification, the sanctification, our righteousness..

then stop fusing already will ya? Do u understand sanctification is a clear teaching in Galatians?

What did perfecting in the flesh, in full context mean, in 3;3?

 

[from scratch]

We are not speaking of the OT here. The Jerusalem Council was called because the legalistic Judaizers were ADDING works (circumcision and keeping the Law of Moses) to the Gospel of grace.

 

[Frogster]

You confuse a teaching about OT law keeping vs faith with Paul's teaching to the Church about abstaining from fornication, adultery and idolatry.

Is abstaining from fornication being under the OC bondwomen? No.

Is Paul's command to abstain from fornication putting us under the OC law bondwomen? No

oh my..dude, lets leave the elementalism already..

Ok, I speak for all, we don't want to kill, murder, or run around in orgies..

There, ya happy?

Now, lets get into the meat. yes?

Did the law stop sin in the heart?

 

[visionary]

Got ya. No problemo jus change the question. Yer not wanting the truth. Yer wanting yer way.

You have to back up and find out if this law Paul is talking about comes from Mount Sinai or is a traditional law that you might find in the Talmud... it makes a big difference..

 

[visionary]

then stop fusing already will ya? Do u understand sanctification is a clear teaching in Galatians?

What did perfecting in the flesh, in full context mean, in 3;3?

Yes, sanctification is taught in Galatians.. as to perfecting in the flesh.. I want to hear what you have to say that means.

 

[Frogster]

You have to back up and find out if this law Paul is talking about comes from Mount Sinai or is a traditional law that you might find in the Talmud... it makes a big difference..

save us time, fish around and show talmud.

You got traditions in gal 1, and the legal law too, they ran hand in hand, but most scholars know, that law was mostly Moses, or the principal, which was indeed from Moses.

 

[visionary]

save us time, fish around and show talmud.

You got traditions in gal 1, and the legal law too, they ran hand in hand, but most scholars know, that law was mostly Moses, or the principal, which was indeed from Moses.

really ??...then show me how circumcision is related to salvation..

 

[11822]

The 10th commandment combined with Mathew 6:19-4 gives us a complete commandment.

Does this verse in Col 3:5 say covetousness is idolatry or all the listed works of flesh are idolatry?



Col 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry

 

[Frogster]

Yes, sanctification is taught in Galatians.. as to perfecting in the flesh.. I want to hear what you have to say that means.

Sure, it was when they tried to go to a higher spirtual level, perfecting by law, forgetting the Spirit, which began the work, as instructed to again, in 5, after the church fell apart, because of the law party, who did not understand the cross. They sought to get under externals, forgetting the internals, where grace not lae works.

Thanks.

Ok, please tell me what u think 3;3 means?

 

[from scratch]

Paul forbids circumcision, fornication and meat offered to idols.

Isn't it said that Paul promotes circumcision of the heart - Rom 2:29 as a requirement of salvation and stone cold proof that we're spiritual Israel?

 

[visionary]

Sure, it was when they tried to go to a higher spirtual level, perfecting by law, forgetting the Spirit, which began the work, as instructed to again, in 5, after the church fell apart, because of the law party, who did not understand the cross. They sought to get under externals, forgetting the internals, where grace not lae works.

Thanks.

Ok, please tell me what u think 3;3 means?

the law party were of the talmud pushers... and like Yeshua we are all against that..

 

[Frogster]

really ??...then show me how circumcision is related to salvation..

Then what was the point of being a cov person?

If they were not cut, were they in the cov, or cut off?

 

[visionary]

Isn't it said that Paul promotes circumcision of the heart - Rom 2:29 as a requirement of salvation and stone cold proof that we're spiritual Israel?

Romans 2:26
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

 

[from scratch]

Romans 2:26
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

Don't understand what you mean.

 

[visionary]

Then what was the point of being a cov person?

If they were not cut, were they in the cov, or cut off?

That is what I am saying.. many a man wears his wedding ring.. but if he continues in adultery.. what good is it to have a covenant sign of marriage.??

 

[Frogster]

the law party were of the talmud pushers... and like Yeshua we are all against that..

oh come on, then why did Paul go to jerusalem and hear about Moses?

Give me something to prove Paul was fighting talmud?

Were they all bound under talmud here in gal 3:22-23?


Did Christ redeem from the talmud, was talmud the issue?



3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”—

 

[Frogster]

Romans 2:26
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

realize those 3 chapters were just showing hypocrisy, and how the jews, were not righteous, even by way of gentiles, who behaved better on occasion. He went on to say, the Lord was blasphemed because of the law party, no prooftexting my fine feathered friend.

 

[Frogster]

That is what I am saying.. many a man wears his wedding ring.. but if he continues in adultery.. what good is it to have a covenant sign of marriage.??

Ok, I will make u happy. Christians do not want to commit adultery.

Ok, now give me one verse to show how law stops it in the heart, (david), and i wil paypal you 100 dollars, to go to a bbq pork rib joint!

 

[11822]

go rad 1 cor 10, eat it all..

Actually, that is a teaching of demons

4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

Does food matter? SSSStop GOING BY PERTANENT VERSES, RELATIVE TO A STRESSFUL TRANSITIONAL TIME, OF JEW AND GENTILE INTERACTION, AND STUDY THE ISSUE ALREADY, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP POSTING THE SAME THING TO YOU.



You took romans 14 out of context. Did Paul tolerate demon teaching? He was talking about those who obeyed abstaining from meat offered to idols. Paul commands gentiles to abstain from meat offered to idols himself. Paul rebuked only those that didn't have faith in the lord and were teaching circumcision, your definition of romans 14 is way out of context. Paul didn't teach abstaining from food, but he did command abstinence from meat offered to idols and gave 2 reason why. One for the weaker brothers conscience and the other so we don't provoke Gods jealousy. Any food is pure to eat like Paul said but even He commands against food offered to Idols. Is Paul teaching according to the demons?