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Having written my final post in my debate with Papias I was browsing the forum and found the Serpent's Seed thread. This strange doctrine is based on the idea that Cain was not a son of Adam but rather the 'seed' of the Serpent (aka Satan). I was surprised to learn that this heretical doctrine had a pretty long history.
One of the issues with Papias was polygenism, something I accused him of early and often. The primary issue here is whether or not Adam had contemporaries (human or hominid) and most importantly, whether or not Adam and Eve are the first parents of us all as the Scriptures teach. Papias denied that he taught or believed in polygenism, there is one among teaches something very similar, something called Preadamism, a belief that humans existed before Adam.
I have no idea where this thread is going but Adam of the Genesis account in Genesis 2 is clearly the first parent of humanity, father of us all.
I have done a little reading on the subject and even the Scofield Study Bible has a reference to a preadamite race, it would seem to be connected to the Gap Theory.
The view that there were pre-adamites has historically been linked to racism. Many contemporary proponents of this view are non-racist like Hugh Ross, an Old Earth Creationist and evolutionist. I'm going to add a few links for future reference:
Serpent's Seed by Wikipedia
Pre-Adamite by Wikipedia
Hugh Ross, CMI article by Dr Jonathan Sarfati
My position is simply this, Adam was created from the dust of the earth and Eve from Adam's rib. All humans are descendants from these two and the link in the genealogy of Luke and discussion of the Pauline discussion of original sin (Romans 5:12; 8:20-22; 1 Corinthians 15:21) makes a pre-adamite race untenable for me as an evangelical.
With that I will post this brief summary of the topic and see where it goes.
Grace and peace,
Mark
One of the issues with Papias was polygenism, something I accused him of early and often. The primary issue here is whether or not Adam had contemporaries (human or hominid) and most importantly, whether or not Adam and Eve are the first parents of us all as the Scriptures teach. Papias denied that he taught or believed in polygenism, there is one among teaches something very similar, something called Preadamism, a belief that humans existed before Adam.
I have no idea where this thread is going but Adam of the Genesis account in Genesis 2 is clearly the first parent of humanity, father of us all.
Man 'Adam' - H120 אדם 'âdâm aw-dawm' From H119; ruddy, Strong's Dictionary)
A. Nouns.
'adam (H120), "man; mankind; people; someone (indefinite); Adam (the first man)."...This noun is related to the verb 'adom, "to be red," and therefore probably relates to the original ruddiness of human skin. The noun connotes "man" as the creature created in God's image, the crown of all creation. In its first appearance 'adam is used for mankind, or generic man: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness..." (Gen.1:26). In Gen.2:7 the word refers to the first "man," Adam: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Vines Dictionary)
A. Nouns.
'adam (H120), "man; mankind; people; someone (indefinite); Adam (the first man)."...This noun is related to the verb 'adom, "to be red," and therefore probably relates to the original ruddiness of human skin. The noun connotes "man" as the creature created in God's image, the crown of all creation. In its first appearance 'adam is used for mankind, or generic man: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness..." (Gen.1:26). In Gen.2:7 the word refers to the first "man," Adam: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Vines Dictionary)
I have done a little reading on the subject and even the Scofield Study Bible has a reference to a preadamite race, it would seem to be connected to the Gap Theory.
The view that there were pre-adamites has historically been linked to racism. Many contemporary proponents of this view are non-racist like Hugh Ross, an Old Earth Creationist and evolutionist. I'm going to add a few links for future reference:
Serpent's Seed by Wikipedia
Pre-Adamite by Wikipedia
Hugh Ross, CMI article by Dr Jonathan Sarfati
My position is simply this, Adam was created from the dust of the earth and Eve from Adam's rib. All humans are descendants from these two and the link in the genealogy of Luke and discussion of the Pauline discussion of original sin (Romans 5:12; 8:20-22; 1 Corinthians 15:21) makes a pre-adamite race untenable for me as an evangelical.
With that I will post this brief summary of the topic and see where it goes.
Grace and peace,
Mark
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