Dies Domini

[Memento Mori]

Have you read this letter by Bl. John Paul II? Has it affected your observance of the Lord's Day? I'm currently studying it and was curious if anyone would like to discuss it.

 

[WarriorAngel]

Dies Domini, John Paul II, 5 July 1998 - Apostolic Letter

 

[σύνδουλόν]

Have you read this letter by Bl. John Paul II? Has it affected your observance of the Lord's Day? I'm currently studying it and was curious if anyone would like to discuss it.

Dies Domini, is fulfilling Bible Prophecy...

I am more than willing to discuss it, but who is willing to hear it?

 

[thereselittleflower]

I for one will not be addressing the post above mine by σύνδουλόν as SDA doctrines and beliefs have no business being promoted in OBOB, especially in contradiction to Catholic teaching.

 

[σύνδουλόν]

I for one will not be addressing the post above mine by σύνδουλόν as SDA doctrines and beliefs have no business being promoted in OBOB, especially in contradiction to Catholic teaching.

I see that you think it is Seventh Day Adventist doctrine, but if you look again, a little closer, I did not quote a single Seventh Day Adventist, except John the Apostle, who kept the 7th Day and awaited the Second Advent.

The Bible was quoted. Is not the Church to uphold the scriptures? I thought "she" was its champion?

 

[thereselittleflower]

Have you read this letter by Bl. John Paul II? Has it affected your observance of the Lord's Day? I'm currently studying it and was curious if anyone would like to discuss it.

One of the points he draws out is the parallel between the first day of creation when God createad the heavens and the earth and Sunday being the Lord's Day the day which is primarily an Easter celebration - we are a new creation - the New heavens and New earth.

This paragraph is very significant I think:

17. The connection between Sabbath rest and the theme of "remembering" God's wonders is found also in the Book of Deuteronomy (5:12-15), where the precept is grounded less in the work of creation than in the work of liberation accomplished by God in the Exodus: "You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with mighty hand and outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day" (Dt 5:15).
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The command in the Law of Moses specifically gives the reason the hebrews were to keep the Sabbath - because of their deliverance. Another place says it is a special sign between God and the hebrew children.

Exodus 31:
16W herefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17I t is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
18A nd he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
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With the new creation that is in Christ came a new liberation when He rose from the dead on Easter Morning, the first day of the week. This occured on the Lord's Day, Sunday. The Sabbath commandment was given specifical to the Israelites as a sign of the Old Covenant between them and God. Today, as a new creation in the New Covenant, following the apostolic tradition handed down from the Apostles themslves, we look to the Lord's Day for that day set apart for Him, our day of rest in the new creation.

And this is all just a small part in the beginning of his expounding on the Lord's Day.

 

[thereselittleflower]

I see that you think it is Seventh Day Adventist doctrine, but if you look again, a little closer, I did not quote a single Seventh Day Adventist, except John the Apostle, who kept the 7th Day and awaited the Second Advent.

The Bible was quoted. Is not the Church to uphold the scriptures? I thought "she" was its champion?

One does not have to quote SDA doctrine be promoting it. Non Catholics are not allowed to debate our beliefs in our forum. That is the bottom line.

 

[Memento Mori]

One of the points he draws out is the parallel between the first day of creation when God createad the heavens and the earth and Sunday being the Lord's Day the day which is primarily an Easter celebration - we are a new creation - the New heavens and New earth.

This paragraph is very significant I think:

17. The connection between Sabbath rest and the theme of "remembering" God's wonders is found also in the Book of Deuteronomy (5:12-15), where the precept is grounded less in the work of creation than in the work of liberation accomplished by God in the Exodus: "You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with mighty hand and outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day" (Dt 5:15).
​

The command in the Law of Moses specifically gives the reason the hebrews were to keep the Sabbath - because of their deliverance. Another place says it is a special sign between God and the hebrew children.

Exodus 31:
16W herefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17I t is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
18A nd he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
​

With the new creation that is in Christ came a new liberation when He rose from the dead on Easter Morning, the first day of the week. This occured on the Lord's Day, Sunday. The Sabbath commandment was given specifical to the Israelites as a sign of the Old Covenant between them and God. Today, as a new creation in the New Covenant, following the apostolic tradition handed down from the Apostles themslves, we look to the Lord's Day for that day set apart for Him, our day of rest in the new creation.

And this is all just a small part in the beginning of his expounding on the Lord's Day.

This is about where I am. So far I get the impression that the Lord's Day is for imitating the "contemplative gaze" of God, when He rested on the seventh day and looked at everything He had made with delight and longing, especially man. In both cases of the creation and liberation, "God reveals himself as the bridegroom before the bride" (12). The Lord's Day seems to have a nuptial significance.

We need to interrupt the rhythm of labor and play, to remember God's works and rest in His love. Sunday "recalls that the universe and history belong to God; and without a constant awareness of that truth, man cannot serve in the world as co-worker of the Creator" (15). Once a week we should present ourselves wholly to God, like a bride before the bridegroom.

 

[Memento Mori]

Anyway, being Sunday - I'm going to head off to Mass. Have a good one.

 

[Michie]

I'm going to the Lifeteen Mass this evening.