"Dear Lord, I am a good person and an Atheist . . ."

[SithDoughnut]

Oh and one more thing that jumps out in the secularized crowd, psychology is a belief system influencing so many people to make a choice for secular morality versus Christian holiness.

Many have made the choice to live per psychology.

Are you sure you meant to say psychology? Psychology is a study, not a belief system, and it's something that a lot of people do not study, and so can only affect them so much. I, for example, know very little about psychology. Are you just pulling words out of thin air for the sake of making a post that sounds good?

Psyche, it means soul.

Good dictionary work there.

What exactly is the point of what you're saying here?

 

[Eudaimonist]

Oh and one more thing that jumps out in the secularized crowd, psychology is a belief system influencing so many people to make a choice for secular morality versus Christian holiness.

What is "secular morality"? What leads you to think that psychology influences people to choose moral values from "secular morality"?

Many have made the choice to live per psychology.

Huh? Psychology isn't a morality. What do you mean here?

Psyche, it means soul.

In psychoanalysis, psyche refers to the forces in an individual that shape one's personality and behavior.

It's true that "psyche" was used by the Greeks to refer to the animating principle of a living being, although in Aristotle it was used to refer to the function of a thing. For instance, the psyche of an eye, if it were an independent living being, would be the act of seeing. The psyche of a human individual is intelligent activity.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Tergle]

Are you sure you meant to say psychology? Psychology is a study, not a belief system, and it's something that a lot of people do not study, and so can only affect them so much. I, for example, know very little about psychology. Are you just pulling words out of thin air for the sake of making a post that sounds good?

Psychology is now a cult.

Good dictionary work there.

Far reaching implications. Into eternity even.

What exactly is the point of what you're saying here?

Psychology is the new religion of the secular.

 

[Tergle]

What is "secular morality"? What leads you to think that psychology influences people to choose moral values from "secular morality"?

The culture. The social paradigm. Psychology in one form or another is guiding our society. It is just about taken over for religion.

Huh? Psychology isn't a morality. What do you mean here?

It has replaced guilt with disorder.

In psychoanalysis, psyche refers to the forces in an individual that shape one's personality and behavior.

Psychoanalysis is the secular version of dealing with your priest, pastor or rabbi. I left out imam and guru for obvious reasons.

It's true that "psyche" was used by the Greeks to refer to the animating principle of a living being, although in Aristotle it was used to refer to the function of a thing. For instance, the psyche of an eye, if it were an independent living being, would be the act of seeing. The psyche of a human individual is intelligent activity.

From soul to "how you feel." My point exactly.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Psychology is now a cult.

Evidence? I've yet to see psychology become involved in ritual practices generally used within cults. It's also accepted within society, which means it doesn't qualify for another definition of cult too.

Far reaching implications. Into eternity even.

I could say the same about the Conservation of Mass. Doesn't really mean anything though.

Psychology is the new religion of the secular.

And you're saying this because you actually concluded it from the facts or because you think it sounds convincing?

 

[Tergle]

Evidence? I've yet to see psychology become involved in ritual practices generally used within cults.

Really? You've never heard of group therapy?

It's also accepted within society, which means it doesn't qualify for another definition of cult too.

You gotta be joking.

I could say the same about the Conservation of Mass. Doesn't really mean anything though.

I'll bite my toungue and not reply as I'd like.

And you're saying this because you actually concluded it from the facts or because you think it sounds convincing?

Psychology alleviates one of their guilt. In fact it just redefines it. It even has it's prophets, priests and kings.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Really? You've never heard of group therapy?

And this fits a cult how? Group therapy is not seen as something abnormal.

You gotta be joking.

Not remotely. Psychology is an accepted field of study and medicine. If you don't accept it, you're actually the abnormal one.

I'll bite my toungue and not reply as I'd like.

Why not? If you were going to insult me, feel free to do so. Honesty is important in discussions, especially through a medium such as the internet. Just try to avoid breaking the rules doing it, although I won't report any posts that contain anything negative directed at me.

Psychology alleviates one of their guilt.

And yet the justice system still puts guilty people in jail. The only occasion I can see where psychology lets people off is when they have mental issues - should we put someone in jail for something that they do not understand or have no control over?

In fact it just redefines it. It even has it's prophets, priests and kings.

Like who, for example?

 

[Skavau]

Psychology is now a cult.

Have you been too close to some Scientologists of late?

You certainly treat atheists like suppressive persons.

 

[Eudaimonist]

The culture. The social paradigm.

The culture is very much influenced by Christianity. I don't think one can make a sharp division between Christian culture and everything else.

Psychology in one form or another is guiding our society. It is just about taken over for religion.

Hm, I don't see this. Psychology is just one factor out of many.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[benglobal]

The culture. The social paradigm. Psychology in one form or another is guiding our society. It is just about taken over for religion.

Life as a constant (of which we are part) has its own way of finding the correct or balenced way to progress or evolve. If God is your mentor, guide, truth, why does religion mean so much. Does God rely on the structure of religion to sing his song.
A method that helps people (psychology) is ultimately of worth irresspective of your structured veiws and that much is understood by the person in NEED and I suspect God also.

 

[Tergle]

Have you been too close to some Scientologists of late?

Only if I watch a movie or TV I guess.

You certainly treat atheists like suppressive persons.

I treat them as they deserve to be treated.

 

[Tergle]

And this fits a cult how? Group therapy is not seen as something abnormal.

It is from looking and listening in.

Not remotely. Psychology is an accepted field of study and medicine. If you don't accept it, you're actually the abnormal one.

I couldn't ask for a better description of how psychology has taken over our society.

If you are not in need of a psychologist, you are in denial.

Gotta love its pervasiveness. Like a virus taking over a host.

Why not? If you were going to insult me, feel free to do so. Honesty is important in discussions, especially through a medium such as the internet. Just try to avoid breaking the rules doing it, although I won't report any posts that contain anything negative directed at me.

I think you know full well how I feel about you. And some of the reports laid against me are pathetic attempts to silence me and little else.

And yet the justice system still puts guilty people in jail.

Some.

The only occasion I can see where psychology lets people off is when they have mental issues - should we put someone in jail for something that they do not understand or have no control over?

Absolutely. If they are mentally ill, not only do they need to be removed from society, it sounds like, from your description of them, they won't really know it anyway. A win win situation all around.

Like who, for example?

Do I post the entire list of the leadership at the APA?

 

[SonOfTheWest]

So are Christians the only people in a position to declare something good or evil? Or better yet is it only certain types of Christians that can do that? I mean one could be a heretic or whatnot after all. Perish the thought.

 

[Tergle]

So are Christians the only people in a position to declare something good or evil?

Obviously there are many styles of people that still posit the position.

Or better yet is it only certain types of Christians that can do that?

That is probably historically accurate.

I mean one could be a heretic or what not after all. Perish the thought.

According to Jude, Peter and John, uh and Jesus, and Paul, we should never perish that thought.

 

[SithDoughnut]

It is from looking and listening in.

Could you expand?

I couldn't ask for a better description of how psychology has taken over our society.

If you are not in need of a psychologist, you are in denial.

Gotta love its pervasiveness. Like a virus taking over a host.

You're not a scientologist, are you? Plenty of people don't need psychologists, but that doesn't mean that it's useless. You also realise all this could be levelled at Christianity too, right?

I think you know full well how I feel about you. And some of the reports laid against me are pathetic attempts to silence me and little else.

Definitely scientologist.

Some.

More than God does.

Absolutely. If they are mentally ill, not only do they need to be removed from society, it sounds like, from your description of them, they won't really know it anyway. A win win situation all around.

They might know it, and they might not. Prison is about rehabilitation - not all people respond to it in the same way. There are alternatives, such as the ones usually presented to people with mental issues.

Do I post the entire list of the leadership at the APA?

Provided you can demonstrate how they fit the description.

 

[Tinker Grey]

I treat them as they deserve to be treated.

And how do you deserve to be treated?

 

[Mling]

I treat them as they deserve to be treated.

No, you don't. It wouldn't matter who you were talking about or how you were treating them. The way you act is a reflection of yourself, not of anybody else or what they deserve. If you treat people badly, it's because you're a person who treats people badly. It doesn't say anything about the other people.

 

[Eudaimonist]

The way you act is a reflection of yourself, not of anybody else or what they deserve. If you treat people badly, it's because you're a person who treats people badly. It doesn't say anything about the other people.

QFT^


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[selfinflikted]

And how do you deserve to be treated?

Like a troll? ..as in, don't feed 'em.

 

[Tergle]

Like a troll? ..as in, don't feed 'em.

Isn't a troll a creature that attacks innocent people?

Looks like we Christians have many trolls to watch out for here.