Who says Christians are mistreated in Islamic countries?

[Ishraqiyun]

Religious persecution does exist in many majority Islamic countries. Religious persecution exists throughout most of the world unfortunately. America seems to do a good job of keeping it to a minimum at least at home though. It can only be stopped one person at a time starting with ourselves.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Is there a "whoosh: right over the head" emoticon

The usual response to arguments that are potentially true and unpopular.

 

[selfinflikted]

Some of us see wut u did thar, OP.

 

[Woden84]

I agree with the OP. Christians in Muslim countries are perfectly free to become Muslims just like everyone else. How dare they demand special privileges!

 

[SithDoughnut]

It's interesting seeing the people in this thread that haven't made the connection yet.

 

[lawtonfogle]

It's interesting seeing the people in this thread that haven't made the connection yet.

It is like sitting back and watching live cam feed from a southern state that just got their highways iced over. Car after car entering the ever growing pileup.

 

[lawtonfogle]

But those threads are long gone.

The thread may be gone, but the arguments keep popping up. But I'm just apply the logic elsewhere to see how well it works.

 

[Ken-1122]

Lawtonfogol (quote)”Did you know that in even the most pro-Islamic nation, Christians have the same rights and are treated equally as everyone else. They can become Muslims and be treated like any other Muslim.”

(reply) You jokin right? If a Christian converts to Islam, he is no longer a Christian thus his treatment is no longer going to be an example of how Christians are treated but how Muslims are treated in that country. Your argument fails.

K

 

[Andrew Ryan]

I actually got the joke after my first post, I initially just thought it was just oddly phrased, oops.

 

[SithDoughnut]

(reply) You jokin right? If a Christian converts to Islam, he is no longer a Christian thus his treatment is no longer going to be an example of how Christians are treated but how Muslims are treated in that country. Your argument fails.

Not if you think about the fact that there can be a difference between what you are and what you do. Christians are free to follow Islam (the law cannot control their thoughts) like every other citizen. That does not mean that they have to think differently. It's a freedom, after all.

 

[rsduncan]

Funny, I get the same about becoming a good normal Christian in this country at times.

You can relax. I don't do fatwas...

 

[Paulos23]

You can relax. I don't do fatwas...

You might not (thank you), but I have seen Christians do it in all but the name.

 

[Tergle]

Did you know that in even the most pro-Islamic nation, Christians have the same rights and are treated equally as everyone else. They can become Muslims and be treated like any other Muslim. This is the exact same way every other person, including all Muslims, are treated. Them not getting a special exception is not being treated unequally or discriminated against. So why do people keep claiming they are discriminated against?

Maybe because they keep being killed and their churches burned?

As in yesterday.

By the way, how many Christians can come FROM being a Muslim in Islamic countries?

 

[Skaloop]

Maybe because they keep being killed and their churches burned?

As in yesterday.

By the way, how many Christians can come FROM being a Muslim in Islamic countries?

That's a choice that they are making. They still have the same rights as Muslims, they just choose otherwise.

 

[KarateCowboy]

Did you know that in even the most pro-Islamic nation, Christians have the same rights and are treated equally as everyone else. They can become Muslims and be treated like any other Muslim. This is the exact same way every other person, including all Muslims, are treated. Them not getting a special exception is not being treated unequally or discriminated against. So why do people keep claiming they are discriminated against?

You can't say Christians can become Muslims just like Muslims can become Muslims because Muslims can't become Muslims just like Muslims when Muslims are already Muslims.

 

[brightmorningstar]

By the way, how many Christians can come FROM being a Muslim in Islamic countries

Good question. Actually millions, esepcially currently in countries like Indonesia and even in countries like Saudi Arabia, it is just that its too dangerous to advertise the fact In fact one wonders why the BBC had recent interviews of a woman 'converting' from Roman Catholicism to Islam as though this was representative of what was happening. (incidently on Iran TV she testified to having converted from humanism)

 

[SithDoughnut]

You can't say Christians can become Muslims just like Muslims can become Muslims because Muslims can't become Muslims just like Muslims when Muslims are already Muslims.

They can follow Islamic customs and law though. I think that was what was being referred to.

 

[KCfromNC]

Not if you think about the fact that there can be a difference between what you are and what you do. Christians are free to follow Islam (the law cannot control their thoughts) like every other citizen. That does not mean that they have to think differently. It's a freedom, after all.

Sure. There's a huge difference between punishing the practices of Christianity and punishing Christians, right? Love the sinner, hate the sin.

 

[KarateCowboy]

They can follow Islamic customs and law though. I think that was what was being referred to.

But then are they Christians or Muslims? In programming we have 'duck typing'. "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims and waddles like a duck, it's a duck".

 

[SithDoughnut]

But then are they Christians or Muslims? In programming we have 'duck typing'. "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims and waddles like a duck, it's a duck".

It doesn't matter. Freedoms are about actions, not thoughts, and everyone has the freedom to follow Islam.