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Correction is Love

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To a new Christian I would say

resist not correction.

To an old Christian I would say

resist not correction.

The amount of correction you will recieve

will determine the amount of progress you will make.

Do not confuse stubborness with Faith.

Flee from stubborness

I have seen a many a person's stubborness

cheat them and their love ones

out of the good things

of life

and

God.:thumbsup:
 

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Flee from stubbornness? No. I don't think so. I think "choose and use your stubbornness wisely" is a better thing.

Stubbornness in the flesh, in our own strength, in our wisdom - these we should flee. These are harmful and not of God. There are many scriptures in which God grieved because of his "stiff-necked" people, wishing only that they would repent and return to Him. We should all be cautious of allowing such detrimental garbage be in our lives.

HOWEVER,


Unyielding believe in God, persistence in seeking His will, adamant opposition to sin, pigheaded endurance towards walking a righteous life through the Spirit, uncompromising the message of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, patient continual reading of the word instead of getting caught up in the latest worldly trend - these are all good things.

When you say resist not the correction of the Holy Ghost, I say "AMEN!" When you say flee from stubbornness, I say "choose well what you are stubborn about, but do not run away from and abandon stubbornness." The man who is not stubborn for something, this is the man who cares about nothing.
 
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Flee from stubbornness? No. I don't think so. I think "choose and use your stubbornness wisely" is a better thing.

Stubbornness in the flesh, in our own strength, in our wisdom - these we should flee. These are harmful and not of God. There are many scriptures in which God grieved because of his "stiff-necked" people, wishing only that they would repent and return to Him. We should all be cautious of allowing such detrimental garbage be in our lives.

HOWEVER,

Unyielding believe in God, persistence in seeking His will, adamant opposition to sin, pigheaded endurance towards walking a righteous life through the Spirit, uncompromising the message of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, patient continual reading of the word instead of getting caught up in the latest worldly trend - these are all good things.

When you say resist not the correction of the Holy Ghost, I say "AMEN!" When you say flee from stubbornness, I say "choose well what you are stubborn about, but do not run away from and abandon stubbornness." The man who is not stubborn for something, this is the man who cares about nothing.

What if he was saying resist not the correction of your parents?
 
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What if he was saying resist not the correction of your parents?

Parents? Where do you get that from?

Correction is a noun defined as "a correcting". The subject is Christians (new and old) and the verb directed towards the subject is resist - defined as "withstand the action or to strive against". We can therefore read "To Christians, regardless of age, I would say do not strive against a correcting". I ask you, WingsOfWisdom, who corrects Christians?

Prov 3:11-12

My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction: for whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Rom 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God

As a Christian, which is who this poem is for, the Spirit (the Holy Ghost) bears witness with our spirit that we are the children of God and we know that whom the LORD loves (do you think He loves his children?) He corrects. I can safely assume the correction he spoke of is the correction of the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of God, our Father.

And just for further proof, here's another good one...

Eph 6:1
Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

Firstly, I want to note that children are required to obey their parents in the Lord, but once one is grown they are no longer a child. Everyone should honor their mother and father, but honor is different than obey and this passages says "Children, obey your parents in the Lord". What if, as a child, your parents command you to do something evil? To do something unrighteous, something that is not in the Lord? Does God still expect obedience? Should you accept their correction, or listen to the LORD?

I also wonder, since we're on the subject, how can a child be an old Christian? Remember, the author said "To a new Christian...To an old Christian..." If this poem was directed towards physical children none could be old (they would all be children). Also, if this is a general saying for children there would be no need to specifically address Christians at all. The author could have penned "Children, resist not correction", but instead wrote "Christians resist not correction" and emphasized the fact that age is irrelevant. All Christians, gray haired or just getting grown-up teeth, should welcome the correction of God because He loves us. This is directly in agreement with scripture.

I do not see how any contextual or scriptural evidence would support such broad "resist not the correction of your parents" nonsense, and if the poem does mean that then I no longer like the poem. In Mt 10:34-37 Jesus said Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Your "what if he meant children resist not the correction of your parents" question is an asinine interpretation and completely ridiculous. Your question treats this poem like Mormons and a whole bunch of other folks treat the inspired word of God. Instead of simply reading the text and trying to learn what it means they read it and say "What if the text really means this?" and promote all kinds of dumb doctrine...but I'll step down from my soapbox for now.

My question to you is,"What if he was saying resist not the correction of the Spirit??"
 
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If someone told you that you were stubborn,

would you believe them?

Yes, sir, I would. It has happened before and most likely will happen again.

I have explained why inferring that he meant correction of the Spirit makes more sense than correction of parents. I suppose we could always just ask him to clear things up.
 
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Yes, sir, I would. It has happened before and most likely will happen again.

I have explained why inferring that he meant correction of the Spirit makes more sense than correction of parents. I suppose we could always just ask him to clear things up.

I am not stubborn.
 
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