Gravitons are postulated as a result of a HUGE amount of experimental and observed evidence.
LOL.
Gravitons have never been observed.
Invisible pink unicorns have been observed as much as gravitons.
All those so-called "observations" and experiments would have produced better results wearing tinfoil hats.
"...all that work is in vain." -- Geoffrey Burbidge, astrophysicist, 2000
"It is claimed that the LIGO and LISA projects will detect Einstein's gravitational waves. The existence of these waves is entirely theoretical. Over the past forty years or so no Einstein gravitational waves have been detected. How long must the search go on, at great expense to the public purse, before the astrophysical scientists admit that their search is fruitless and a waste of vast sums of public money? The fact is, from day one, the search for these elusive waves has been destined to detect nothing." -- Stephen J. Crothers, astrophysicist, August 2009
Invisible pink unicorns is simply an idea that you pulled out of thin air.
Not the same class.
Likewise gravitons. Exact same class.
In the electric model of the universe gravitons belong in the exact same class as invisible pink unicorns -- unobserved fantasies and wishful thinking.
And if those physical effects can be explained by other means than god, then where does that leave god?
I say God created gravity whereas gravity is your God.
Newton said "God and gravity did it."
Hawking says "gravity did it without God."
I assume you believe gravity exists?
I accept gravity and reject universal gravitation.
Gravity is an ancient observation (Lucretius/Plutarch); universal gravitation is a 17th century myth (Newton).
I believe that electromagnetism causes gravity.
If so, then what is your theory on what gravity is, where it comes from, how it works?
I reject Newtonian universal gravitation and General Relativity is favor of electromagnetism -- this was the view of Pythagoras, Kepler, Faraday, Tesla, Brown, Velikovsky etc.
KEPLER
"The example of the magnet I have hit upon is a very pretty one, and entirely suited to the subject; indeed, it is little short of being the very truth." -- Johannes Kepler, astronomer, New Astronomy, 1609
"For, by the demonstration of the Englishman William Gilbert, the earth itself is a big magnet...." -- Johannes Kepler, astronomer, New Astronomy, 1609
"It is therefore plausible, since the Earth moves the moon through its species and magnetic body, while the sun moves the planets similarly through an emitted species, that the sun is likewise a magnetic body." -- Johannes Kepler, astronomer/mathematician, New Astronomy, 1609
"But come: let us follow more closely the tracks of this similarity of the planetary reciprocation [libration] to the motion of a magnet, and that by a most beautiful geometric demonstration, so that it might appear that a magnet has such a motion as that which we perceive in the planet." -- Johannes Kepler, astronomer, New Astronomy, 1609
FARADAY
"The long and constant persuasion that all the forces of nature are mutually dependent, having one common origin, or rather being different manifestations of one fundamental power, has often made me think on the possibility of establishing, by experiment, a connection between gravity and electricity …no terms could exaggerate the value of the relation they would establish.'' -- Michael Faraday, physicist, 1865
KILMER
"Magnetism is possessed by the whole mass of the earth and universe of heavenly bodies, and is an essence of known demonstration and laws. By adopting it we have the advantage over the gravity theory by the use of the polar relation to magnetism. A magnetic north pole presented to a magnetic south pole, or a south pole to a north pole, attracts, while a north pole to another north pole or a south pole to another repels. This gives to us a better reason than gravitation can for the elliptical orbit of the planets instead of the circular. It also gives us some light on the mystery of the tides, the philosophy of which the profoundest study has not solved. Certain facts are apparent; but for the explanation of the true theory such men as Laplace and Newton, and others more recent, have labored in vain." -- C.H. Kilmer, historian, October 1915
"I hope that some reader interested in astronomical matters will take occasion to make some reply to this letter [The Myth of Gravitation] and possibly contend that electro-magnetism cannot supersede Newton's theory of gravitation in the suspension and movement of the universe of worlds." -- C.H. Kilmer, historian, October 1915
BROWN
"It is found that matter and electricity are very closely related in structure. ... it is self-evident that matter is connected with gravitation and it follows logically that electricity is likewise connected." -- T. Townsend Brown, physicist, Aug 1929
"The writer and his colleagues anticipated the present situation even as early as 1923, and began at that time to construct the necessary theoretical bridge between the two then separate phenomena, electricity and gravitation. The first actual demonstration of the relation was made in 1924." -- T. Townsend Brown, physicist, Aug 1929
VELIKOVSKY
"Gravitation is an electromagnetic phenomenon." -- Immanuel Velikovsky, polymath, 1946
"All planets revolve in approximately one plane. They revolve in a plane perpendicular to the lines of force of the sun’s magnetic field." -- Immanuel Velikovsky, polymath, 1946
CONTEMPORARY LOGIC
"When first observed by Voyager, the spoke movements [of Saturn's Rings] seemed to defy gravity and had the scientists very perplexed. Since the spokes rotate at the same rate as Saturn's magnetic field, it is apparent that the electromagnetic forces are also at work." -- Ron Baalke, astrophysicist, 1998
If you say god did it, that does not explain very much, so how did god do it?
I need specific details, not some vague bible verse.
