Judaizers and the new name

[ARBITER01]

According to the early Church historian Eusebius, himself a Gentile Bishop of Caesarea Maritima in the Holy Land, from 314 to 338 AD, he provides a list of 13 successive Bishops of Jerusalem, from the time of the death of Simeon in 107 A.D. It is interesting to note that he remarks that. Quote: "they were all [Judaeo / Judaic] Christians."

In other words, they were a bunch of Judaizers.

The Council of Laodicea around A.D. 364 decreed 59 Canon laws.
Canon XXIX: “Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord’s Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be Judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.”

Judaize
Darby translation.
Gal 2;14. But when I saw that they do not walk straightforwardly, according to the truth of the glad tidings, I said to Peter before all, If *thou*, being a Jew, livest as the nations and not as the Jews, how dost thou compel the nations to Judaize? How will you compel the nations to Judaize?

Before people were called Christians they were called Jews and converts to Judaism.

Isaiah 65:15
You will leave your name to my chosen ones as a curse; the Sovereign LORD will put you to death, but to his servants he will give another name.

Acts 11:26
and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called [Christians / Messianics] first at Antioch.

Fun to watch folks outright lie to promote their form of religion/bondage.

 

[GuardianShua]

Fun to watch folks outright lie to promote their form of religion/bondage.

Your mouse is doing the pee pee dance, because you have been busy making jokes. I do not believe you are stupid.

 

[ARBITER01]

Your mouse is doing the pee pee dance, because you have been busy making jokes. I do not believe you are stupid.

I don't consider myself to be joking one bit. You outright lied about our apostles to promote your form of religion/bondage.

 

[GuardianShua]

I don't consider myself to be joking one bit. You outright lied about our apostles to promote your form of religion/bondage.

Don't keep it a secret! Let us all see the lie that you are talking about.

 

[ARBITER01]

Don't keep it a secret! Let us all see the lie that you are talking about.

You're whole first post was a lie, that's why I included it in my original post here.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Your mouse is doing the pee pee dance, because you have been busy making jokes. I do not believe you are stupid.

I did that when I walked outside this morning....

 

[GuardianShua]

You're whole first post was a lie, that's why I included it in my original post here.

Again I say: Don't keep it a secret! Let us all see the lie that you are talking about.

 

[SummaScriptura]

According to the early Church historian Eusebius, himself a Gentile Bishop of Caesarea Maritima in the Holy Land, from 314 to 338 AD, he provides a list of 13 successive Bishops of Jerusalem, from the time of the death of Simeon in 107 A.D. It is interesting to note that he remarks that. Quote: "they were all [Judaeo / Judaic] Christians."<snip>

That's very good. Did you also know they were also all of them believers in the deity of Christ and the eternal punishment of hell?

 

[from scratch]

Fun to watch folks outright lie to promote their form of religion/bondage.

I agree, tis very interesting, indeed.

 

[GuardianShua]

I agree, tis very interesting, indeed.

Since you agree, then perhaps you can explain why the scriptures I presented are a lie. Don't hold yourself back, let the truth be made known.

 

[Eph4:26]

gee, that really clears things up.

There should be an eyes-crossed emoticon.

". . . perhaps you can explain why the scriptures I presented are a lie."

Perhaps, if you could express your point in 1 clear and concise sentence.

 

[Frogster]

Correct.

oh..then do i get a condo, downtown?

Lookie here..law abolishment for them to become one..go tell that to the jews in Israel!

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,

it is not about pedigrees..flesh..lineage..nationalsim....

6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, 7 and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” 8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.

 

[Frogster]

Judiasm is called bondage 4 times in galatians.

 

[GuardianShua]

oh..then do i get a condo, downtown?

Lookie here..law abolishment for them to become one..go tell that to the jews in Israel!

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,

it is not about pedigrees..flesh..lineage..nationalsim....

6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, 7 and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” 8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.

This thread is not about the law. Anyway the scripture you are reading is corrupted. Here, see: Ephesians 2:15
by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,...
The word "enmity" means hostility against the laws of commandments. The word "enmity" is in the original scriptures.

 

[Frogster]

This thread is not about the law. Anyway the scripture you are reading is corrupted. Here, see: Ephesians 2:15
by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,...
The word "enmity" means hostility against the laws of commandments. The word "enmity" is in the original scriptures.

No, the law caused the enmity...between God and man, and between men. Fact. It says right in you quote, the enmity..WHICH IS THE LAW..

KJV, and the NASB.

 

[Frogster]

Originally Posted by Eph4:26 View Post

There should be an eyes-crossed emoticon.

". . . perhaps you can explain why the scriptures I presented are a lie."

Perhaps, if you could express your point in 1 clear and concise sentence.





I asked, quote: ". . . perhaps you can explain why the scriptures I presented are a lie." Not one knows what you are talking about. What lie? Where? And now you are ducking out because you can not answer the question.

Judaism was torn down, read gal 2:18.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Judiasm is called bondage 4 times in galatians.

edit to add: I tend to believe that is what Paul is referring to in the passage of 2 Corin 6:

2 Corin 6:17 wherefore come-forth out of midst of them! and be being separated! is saying Lord and an unclean-thing no ye be touching! and I shall be accepting ye [Isaiah 52:11, Ezekiel 20:34,41/Revelation 18:4]
18 And I shall be to ye as a Father and ye shall be to Me as sons and daughters is saying El Almighty'".
[2 Samuel 7:14]

 

[Frogster]

2 Corin 6:17 wherefore come-forth out of midst of them! and be being separated! is saying Lord and an unclean-thing no ye be touching! and I shall be accepting ye [Isaiah 52:11, Ezekiel 20:34,41/Revelation 18:4]
18 And I shall be to ye as a Father and ye shall be to Me as sons and daughters is saying El Almighty'".
[2 Samuel 7:14]

 

[GuardianShua]

No, the law caused the enmity...between God and man, and between men. Fact. It says right in you quote, the enmity..WHICH IS THE LAW..

KJV, and the NASB.

So then, is Yahshua a liar?

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the [Prophets / prophecies]; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 19:17
“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

 

[Frogster]

So then, is Yahshua a liar?

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the [Prophets / prophecies]; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 19:17
“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

"Yeshua", also said all was fulfilled in luke 24. The law will always stand for the unsaved, as Paul's usage in Romans 1-3. But Paul also said he died to it, it was over, he was not under it, and released from it.

"yeshua" said in John 5, he who believes is not condemned, not he who follows law, no one was justified by law, including Jews, fact. So lets no do any historical prooftexting, and forget, that "yeshua" spoke through Paul.

Whatcha think of this?

Luke 16:16 “The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it. [5]