20 arguments for the existence of God

[KIYX]

God loves you.

lol I"m sorry this is becoming sad. Are these really your comments?

 

[hamashiachagape]

lol I"m sorry this is becoming sad. Are these really your comments?

Prove love exists without God. Where did this most wonderful expression come from?

 

[KIYX]

Principle of Identity being violated. Self refuting.

"Because I said so"

Your god is not the standard by which all gods are defined.

 

[KIYX]

God loves you.

So your out of arguments?

Maybe you'll get to that evidence now.

 

[hamashiachagape]

"Because I said so"

Your god is not the standard by which all gods are defined.

Nope, you don't understand logic. We just got done defining God, now you're being inconsistent by attempting to redefine him from what he was just defined to be 10 minutes ago. The refutation is yours.

 

[hamashiachagape]

So your out of arguments?

Maybe you'll get to that evidence now.

God doesn't have to convince you or anybody else that he exists.

Study the arguments for God by Thomas Aquinas.

 

[KIYX]

Yes. God loves you. Even when you deny him, God still loves you.

So some entity that you've claimed exists yet refused actually provide any evidence for "loves" me.

Oh wait but if I don't believe in your entity it will cast me away into torment for all of eternity....

You have an extremely odd definition of love. Given your definition of other terms in this thread I'm not all that surprised.

 

[hamashiachagape]

So some entity that you've claimed exists yet refused actually provide any evidence for "loves" me.

Oh wait but if I don't believe in your entity it will cast me away into torment for all of eternity....

You have an extremely odd definition of love. Given your definition of other terms in this thread I'm not all that surprised.

All I've done thus far is show a refutation for the existence of God. It is not a strawman. It is exactly what you and every other Atheist here claims, and what Sam Harris also mimicks. It would apply to your reasoning too. Zecharias is demonstrating that the position you espouse is untenable.

What does torment have to do with what I'm talking about?

 

[KIYX]

Prove love exists without God.

Prove that your god exists and I'll get right on that.

Where did this most wonderful expression come from?

Love - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are scientific explantions for love.

It's not really a mystery.

 

[hamashiachagape]

Zecharias also rightfully admits based on the Atheistic reasoning, also similar to that of Existentialists and Postmodernists of not wanting to classify themselves, that they do this and then categorize everything else for one reason...

It does not hold.

 

[hamashiachagape]

Prove that your god exists and I'll get right on that.



Love - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are scientific explantions for love.

It's not really a mystery.

So Science is what this is all about right?

As I figured, but you can't prove the statement that everything is proved through Science with Science itself.

IOW, Science is dependent upon Philosophy.

 

[KIYX]

Nope, you don't understand logic. We just got done defining God, now you're being inconsistent by attempting to redefine him from what he was just defined to be 10 minutes ago. The refutation is yours.

Really so I said, "This is the definition of god"? Or are you putting words into my mouth as you've done to people all through out this thread?

 

[hamashiachagape]

Your article is a discussion about lust.

 

[KIYX]

God doesn't have to convince you or anybody else that he exists.

I didn't ask god to prove that he existed.

I asked you.

 

[hamashiachagape]

Really so I said, "This is the definition of god"? Or are you putting words into my mouth as you've done to people all through out this thread?

Wow, strong accusations. Prove them.

The definition of God, regardless of whether you and I want to believe this, as it has been defined by ALL cultures is all knowing, all powerful, always present.

The strawman representation being attempted by yourself does not do anything but require another cause.

 

[KIYX]

What does torment have to do with what I'm talking about?

Why did you quote a verse if you had no understanding of it?

 

[hamashiachagape]

I didn't ask god to prove that he existed.

I asked you.

I refuted Atheism.

Skepticism is self refuting becuase it must be skeptical of itself.

Agnosticism says it can not know, but it knows that it can not know, so it is self refuting.

Ignosticism says God can not be defined, but defines him as unknowable inso doing. Thats self refuting (as is the definition, see Agnosticism).

 

[hamashiachagape]

Why did you quote a verse if you had no understanding of it?

So God so loved the world means he is tormenting you?

 

[KIYX]

So Science is what this is all about right?

I'm sorry did you want a real answer or one that invokes magical beings?

As I figured, but you can't prove the statement that everything is proved through Science with Science itself.

Which is cool because I never claimed that.

IOW, Science is dependent upon Philosophy.

Science is dependent upon evidence.

 

[KIYX]

Your article is a discussion about lust.

Try to read it all.