I guess you have never heard of the term christian sabbath. It is the commonly held belief that the sabbath was changed from saturday to sunday.
Sure, I've heard of it - and if I were to search the Catholic Catechism I might even find a claim that the Catholic Church changed the sabbath to Sunday. But in my entire tenure on this forum, I have yet to have anyone explain to me how the Catholic church was able to change the ordinance driving the sabbath approximately 300 years after this component of the first covenant mediated in the hands of Moses was taken away by God. As Hebrews 10:9 offers as a summary, "
He takes away the first that He may establish the second". The "He" in this verse refers to Jesus Christ, and the "first" was the covenant ordained at Mount Sinai, which was taken away because it is incompatible with the new covenant in the Blood of Christ.
That I have heard of the concept certainly doesn't add any credibility to it.
Hebrews 4 describes our entrance into God's eternal rest that those who were given the sabbath had not attained the entire 1500 year history the sabbath existed. It is "
that" rest that is affirmed by Christianity; the permanent reality that has replaced the periodic shadow of God's rest.
The church has always (until recently) held that the Lord has a standard of conduct for professed believers as revealed in scripture. This standard of conduct is included in the law of moses but it isn't in itself the law of moses. There are eternal motral concepts that transcend time and different cultures. That is why Joseph recognized that to lie with Potiphers wife was a sin against the Lord, even though the law had not yet been given, meaning it was not yet put into a code.
So let me get this straight - before the law existed, the law existed. Would you care to document this law that existed before it did?
At sinai the moral precepts that had formerly been revealed to the ancestors of the Israelites were codified. Prior to entering Egypt the Israelites were a tribe, not more that a large family. When they came out of Egypt they numbered over a million.
Your moniker says "SDA" next to your name, so please allow me to show you where you get this bizarre idea. It comes from Ellen White's
Desire of Ages, one of the worst theological works showing abject lack of inspiration that I have ever quoted from:
The yoke that binds to service is the law of God. The great law of love revealed in Eden, proclaimed upon Sinai, and in the new covenant written in the heart, is that which binds the human worker to the will of God. If we were left to follow our own inclinations, to go just where our will would lead us, we should fall into Satan's ranks and become possessors of his attributes. Therefore God confines us to His will, which is high, and noble, and elevating. He desires that we shall patiently and wisely take up the duties of service. The yoke of service Christ Himself has borne in humanity. He said, "I delight to do Thy will, O My God: yea, Thy law is within My heart." Ps. 40:8. "I came down from heaven, not to do Mine own will, but the will of Him that sent Me." John 6:38. Love for God, zeal for His glory, and love for fallen humanity, brought Jesus to earth to suffer and to die. This was the controlling power of His life. This principle He bids us adopt. {DA 329.3}
What Ellen White calls the "law of love" the Apostle Paul calls the "
ministry of death, written and engraved on stones" in 2 Corinthians 3:7. Some love Ellen has, deep affection for condemnation under the law that imputes sin to the transgressor as long as it retained jurisdiction. What Ellen claimed was revealed in Eden, Moses testified didn't exist prior to his own generation in Deuteronomy 5:2-3. What Ellen claims was written into the hearts was disqualified by Jeremiah 31:32 and Hebrews 8:9 specifying that God's "
My law" was not according to the covenant made at Mount Sinai. Romans 2:15 shows that the Gentiles already had the workings of the law written into their hearts prior to the new covenant, showing that Ellen's idea of the first covenant moving location making it "new" was utter nonsense. Besides, when were the Gentiles members of Israel or Judah? And, to top off insult with abject injury, Ellen claims Jesus was bound to the law, when Jesus taught Peter that the King Who gave the law is naturally sovereign to His own created law, and enjoys natural immunity to it (Matthew 17:24-26).
Basic fact: Moses testimony regarding the origin of the ten commandments in Deuteronomy 5 refutes the thesis you garnered from uninspired sources.
Scripture itself establishes the existance of a moral law.
But you can't seem to support Ellen's nonsense from Scripture. I rest my case.
Any post offered do not address the question I asked. You can not get around the simple fact that until fairly recently all christian churches upheld the ten commandments as a standard of conduct for the christian.
And this a claim you keep returning to, even after it has been shown to be faulty based on a horribly short rendition of history.
Rehashing the same arguments of the last 20-30 years doesn't address this basic question. As I said earlier their are many examples of this but I only referenced a coulple to get my point across. We can go through each omne individually if you like but in each case it will be revealed that until recently the ten commandments were upheld as a standard of christian conduct, but not a path to justification.
Shall I start bumping up my posts for you? These aren't arguments that became new 20-30 years ago. They were presented 2000 years ago, and your neo-non-inspired SDA theology is failing to take the original Biblical definition of the ten commandments as the covenant from Mount Sinai (that one is actually 3500 years old), and the instruction to cast off the bondwoman defined as the covenant from Mount Sinai (Galatians 4:24-30) appears to have been relegated to a non-moral obligation by you.
