Proposition 8 overturned in California

[JGG]

The need to keep them from self destruction, which is their unintentional destination. Love teaches you to be your brother's keeper, perform that role and you would have secured a seat among the gods.

You corrupt the word LOVE, when you use it to propose homosexuality. These people are not in LOVE, they are in LUST for Perversion.

How could someone who is not gay, or not in love possibly know that? That would require mind reading. I'm a psychologist, and I can't even begin to imagine how to properly assess love.

 

[JGG]

If every human being is allowed to live his/ her own way, do you in all honesty believe that the world would have endured for you to have a taste? You had better rethink.

Are you referring to fascism here?

 

[Chyke4real]

*stares at the amalgam of unconnected statements that don't make much sense together*

When He came , he spoke to them in parables, so that they will be ever hearing but never understanding.

It won't make sense to you, unless the truth lives in you.

If you are born of the truth, you will understand the truth. On the contrary, you won't understand, even when a thousand words are poured onto you like water.

 

[therex]

The need to keep them from self destruction, which is their unintentional destination. Love teaches you to be your brother's keeper, perform that role and you would have secured a seat among the gods.

You corrupt the word LOVE, when you use it to propose homosexuality. These people are not in LOVE, they are in LUST for Perversion.

you make us look bad, seriously.

you cannot just throw opinions into a rational debate. or quote the bible or say it's "god's will" and think you've proved a point and won the argument.

 

[Chyke4real]

Are you referring to fascism here?

Far from it, but not unconnected to it in the long run.

 

[Chyke4real]

I'm a psychologist, and I can't even begin to imagine how to properly assess love.

Start by acknowledging the FATHER, and the SPIRIT will teach you everything you need to know and do.

 

[Chyke4real]

you make us look bad, seriously.

you cannot just throw opinions into a rational debate. or quote the bible or say it's "god's will" and think you've proved a point and won the argument.

I cannot seek to win an argument which nature and morality has already won.

 

[Exiledoomsayer]

If every human being is allowed to live his/ her own way, do you in all honesty believe that the world would have endured for you to have a taste? You had better rethink.

Do you think that if all people thought like you the world would have lasted this long? I think the dark ages themselfs already show where that leads. mass murder in the name of being right based on nothing but your own conviction without a shred of understanding for another.

Your arguement boils down to "I believe its wrong but to give it more weight im going to believe the highest being in the world agrees with me and wants me to impose my personal believes on everyone else"

That the problem you have no respect for anyone that does not have the exact same opinion and values you do. You only see them as in error and in need of being 'shown love' which transelates into "Opressed into acting like you"

You simply do not have the ability to even imagine yourself wrong the entire universive nature and god agree with you and it is everybody else that is in error.

 

[kiwimac]

I cannot seek to win an arguement which nature and morality has already won.

Heiferdust!

 

[Yusuf Evans]

If you don't stand up for something, you'll fall for anything.

Notice my avatar and then notice my profile picture; I'm in the US Army currently deployed to Iraq and have been in the military for over 13 years. Don't confuse me for someone who doesn't stand up and fight for something brother; been doing it for awhile now.

So many men paid the ultimate price to bring salvation to your door step. Would you discourage the faith to reciprocate? Even when that can preserve the sanity of the world?

Look at my religious icon. I love and respect Jesus'(PBUH) message, but I'm also a Muslim. I'm of the belief that what I do in life and how I treat others will have a bearing on where I go and not merely asking for forgiviness of my sins. Our role in the world isn't to force our views onto others, but live a life pleasing to Allah SWT(or Jesus(PBUH) or whatever you refer to) and that is it.

 

[Chyke4real]

When men of doubtful morality creep into the temple of justice, justice takes a disgusting trend.

May God save the children of the world from the negative influence of few disoriented and misguided people.
Love shall never be corrupted.

 

[kiwimac]

'Love' is not corrupted by two people marrying each other.

 

[Maren]

Does anyone have a link to the full text of the ruling?

You can find the full decision here.

 

[Archer93]

The need to keep them from self destruction, which is their unintentional destination. Love teaches you to be your brother's keeper, perform that role and you would have secured a seat among the gods.

The gods? Plural?
Oh dearie dearie me....

You corrupt the word LOVE, when you use it to propose homosexuality. These people are not in LOVE, they are in LUST for Perversion.

And you would know this how? Personal experience? No? Then how can you presume to know how other people feel?

Christianity does not own the concept of marriage, nor the concept of love.
Posts like yours give those who also display Christian icons a bad name.

As ever, big s to all Christians on here who demonstrate that this individual does not speak for them all.

 

[Chyke4real]

The gods? Plural?
Oh dearie dearie me....

Have you never heard, that they were called 'gods', sons of the most high?

And you would know this how? Personal experience? No? Then how can you presume to know how other people feel?

LOVE transcends so many boundaries. LOVE is one and the same. I know what is in us that drives us. If the LOVE that lives in us dwells in you, then you would be re-positioned towards the path of LOVE.

Christianity does not own the concept of marriage, nor the concept of love.

True, but HE who owns it has defined it in unambiguous terms

Posts like yours give those who also display Christian icons a bad name

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How can you speak, when you have refused to hear.

As ever, big s to all Christians on here who demonstrate that this individual does not speak for them al

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I do not speak for anybody, but for the truth.
Learn to walk in the light while you can.

 

[onemorequestion]

Judge Vaughn Walker Hands Victory to Proposition 8 Opponents -- Daily Intel

Text from the ruling:

"Because Proposition 8 is unconstitutional under both the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses, the court orders entry of judgment permanently enjoining its enforcement; prohibiting the official defendants from applying or enforcing Proposition 8 and directing the official defendants that all persons under their control or supervision shall not apply or enforce Proposition 8.""Because Proposition 8 is unconstitutional under both the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses, the court orders entry of judgment permanently enjoining its enforcement; prohibiting the official defendants from applying or enforcing Proposition 8 and directing the official defendants that all persons under their control or supervision shall not apply or enforce Proposition 8."

Of course, there will be appeals, and this is just the first step towards going all the way to SCOTUS, but it gets the ball rolling.

So, now that it's been overturned and ruled unconstitutional, is it ethical or moral to prevent homosexuals from getting married in the state of California?

"Ethical and moral?"

Those words have no meaning anymore.

 

[onemorequestion]

Amendment 1

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

But of course, we have entered the age where any law can now be decided by a Judge and the people represented by the Congress or a vote of the majority populace is no longer important.

When does the real persecution of Christians begin? Yesterday, or today, or after the Supreme Court weighs in?

Or does Obama's regime just take things into their own hands?

 

[b&wpac4]

But of course, we have entered the age where any law can now be decided by a Judge and the people represented by the Congress or a vote of the majority populace is no longer important.

Any law can be decided unconstitutional by the judicial system. This is one of the main functions of the judicial system. It has always been this way in the US. It's amazing how this is never fought when the courts rule in favor of your views, but it suddenly becomes a problem when they rule against your views.

When does the real persecution of Christians begin? Yesterday, or today, or after the Supreme Court weighs in?

Or does Obama's regime just take things into their own hands?

Please, tell me how you are persecuted. I'm really interested.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I do not speak for anybody, but for the truth.

Yeah, and that's what everyone says. On its own, it's not a compelling argument though.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

But of course, we have entered the age where any law can now be decided by a Judge and the people represented by the Congress or a vote of the majority populace is no longer important.

You're right, that's why your President is elected by a single Judge, rather than a general election.

You realise, of course, that a Judge is required to strike down unconstitutional laws? That judges exist the US deems unconstitutional laws to be antithetical to its foundation? That the majority cannot vote in an unconstitutional law?

When does the real persecution of Christians begin? Yesterday, or today, or after the Supreme Court weighs in?

Persecution of Christians? Now, I'm not a US citizen, so maybe I missed the concentration camps and outlawing of Churches and free worship.

So, tell me, in what possible way are Christians being persecuted? How does the Proposition 8 affect opposite-sex Christian couples in any way, shape, or form? How does its repeal affect them? If Bill and Ted get married, are you and your wife going to therefore file for divorce?

Or does Obama's regime just take things into their own hands?

Being the President, I daresay he has some say in how the country is run.