The Bible pwns Evolution with Cryptozoology

[AV1611VET]

ROFL! They are made up animals! Why would such fantasies be a problem for evolution?

What do you mean they are 'made-up animals'?

AV, should sphinxs be a problem for evolution?

Yes

After all, there is a famous statue of one in Egypt. But you don't believe in the Egyptian religion, do you? So you don't think that is a problem for science.

The sphinx is actually a Christian symbol.

It is a three-dimensional representation of Mazzaroth (the zodiac) that Job speaks of; starting with Virgo* and ending with Leo.**

Job 38:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

I'm assuming you've never heard -- or don't believe -- that God put the plan of salvation in the stars?

This book is a real eye-opener:

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* Virgo = Jesus, born of a virgin.

** Leo = Jesus, the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

What do you mean they are 'made-up animals'?

Yes

The sphinx is actually a Christian symbol.

It is a three-dimensional representation of Mazzaroth (the zodiac) that Job speaks of; starting with Virgo* and ending with Leo.**

Job 38:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

I'm assuming you've never heard -- or don't believe -- that God put the plan of salvation in the stars?

This book is a real eye-opener:

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* Virgo = Jesus, born of a virgin.

** Leo = Jesus, the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

Eye opening indeed.
YouTube - Zeitgeist - History of Religion - 1 of 3

 

[lucaspa]

What do you mean they are 'made-up animals'?

They don't exist. Do you have any physical remains of these animals?

Yes

The sphinx is actually a Christian symbol.

The Sphinx was carved long before Christ was born.

It is a three-dimensional representation of Mazzaroth (the zodiac) that Job speaks of; starting with Virgo* and ending with Leo.**

It's missing 9 parts of the zodiac. Try again.

I'm assuming you've never heard -- or don't believe -- that God put the plan of salvation in the stars?

Quite right. To do so would be to violate the theological messages of Genesis 1.

This book is a real eye-opener:

Great! Try to make pagan astrology part of Judeo-Christianity. Do you never think of the harm to Christianity you cause when you put forth these ridiculous notions? If anyone says they have "proof" of the truth of the Bible, you automatically believe them?

AV, what counts more to you: the "truth" of the Bible or the truth of God?

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Leo = Jesus, the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

Where in scripture is Jesus describe as a "lion"? He is described as the "Lamb of God" in Revelations, but never "lion".

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

They don't exist. Do you have any physical remains of these animals?

Yes



The Sphinx was carved long before Christ was born.

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It's missing 9 parts of the zodiac. Try again.



Quite right. To do so would be to violate the theological messages of Genesis 1.



Great! Try to make pagan astrology part of Judeo-Christianity. Do you never think of the harm to Christianity you cause when you put forth these ridiculous notions? If anyone says they have "proof" of the truth of the Bible, you automatically believe them?

AV, what counts more to you: the "truth" of the Bible or the truth of God?



Where in scripture is Jesus describe as a "lion"? He is described as the "Lamb of God" in Revelations, but never "lion".

For AV, the Bible is apriori, therefore, any and everything found, will somehow fit his theology. Give him a shoehorn big enough, and he'll make it fit.

 

[pgp_protector]

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Where in scripture is Jesus describe as a "lion"? He is described as the "Lamb of God" in Revelations, but never "lion".

Revelation 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

 

[AV1611VET]

They don't exist. Do you have any physical remains of these animals?

Not on me, no.

Yes

Yes, what?

The Sphinx was carved long before Christ was born.

So?

The Tabernacle in the Wilderness is also a three-dimensional representation of Jesus Christ.

Trivia question: What is the greatest parable in the Bible?

Answer: The Tabernacle in the Wilderness.

Note what Jesus says to the two atheists on the road to Emmaus:

Lu 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

It's missing 9 parts of the zodiac. Try again.

Didn't you mean 10?

The head is Virgo, the body Leo -- Fleming says the story of redemption starts with Jesus being mentioned as coming from a virgin (Genesis 3:15 -- the Protevangelum) and ends with Jesus as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Revelation 5:5).

Great! Try to make pagan astrology part of Judeo-Christianity.

This is not pagan astrology -- pagan astrology is Satan's cheap imitation for God's glory.

QV Diabolical Mimicry

 

[dewaddict84]

Wow AV, this is a new one from you.

Egypt myth is older then Jesus right? Older even then the jewish nation where a lot of the old testament comes from.

So anyway, the Egyptians had their gods. False gods to you or whatever. Now, what you're doing here is merging an older myth into the newer one.

You see, if a legend arises that is epic and all-encompassing, then it doesn't really fit the tone if you start talking about the prior gods and people in China. Those parts are simply out of scope. So people, true believers, who see the entire world revolving around their pet subject try to see how everything relations to it. And bit by bit, everything has ties to thetarget subject. Because, of course, the subject is that important.

But that really does dilute and corrupt the original story. Incorporating sphinxes as a christian symbol? It's a pagan influence. Your exact actions here would get you burned at the stake a few centuries ago.


Naw, DontTreadOnMike, AV is way WAYYY too dedicated for that. I'll give him that much.

 

[AV1611VET]

Wow AV, this is a new one from you.

Nope -- been saying that for years.

Egypt myth is older then Jesus right?

Yes and no.

As the 2nd Person of the Godhead, Jesus predates even time; but as Jesus Christ, son of Mary, Egyptian myth is older.

Older even then the jewish nation where a lot of the old testament comes from.

Yes, Egypt predates the Jewish nation, where the entire Old Testament comes from.

So anyway, the Egyptians had their gods. False gods to you or whatever.

That is correct -- false gods.

If you study the Ten Plagues, they are not just random plagues, but plagues directed at specific gods of Egypt.

Exodus 12:12b ... and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

Now, what you're doing here is merging an older myth into the newer one.

The Pharaohs in Egypt knew Who God was at one time.

One of the Pharaohs (whose name escapes me at the moment -- Tutankhamon, I think), was a born-again monotheist, and reduced true doctrine down to symbolic icons.

The ankh, for example, is symbolic of eternal life.

Notice the cross here?

 

[JustMeSee]

Eye opening indeed.
YouTube - Zeitgeist - History of Religion - 1 of 3

Interesting.

Has this video been fact checked?

 

[Cabal]

The ankh, for example, is symbolic of eternal life.

*aaaaaankh*

Notice the cross here?

Makes more sense practically.

You could nail his halo to the loop too.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Interesting.

Has this video been fact checked?

Yep. You can go to any library or take an entry level course in religions to check for yourself. This is what makes public access to information such a dangerous thing.

 

[Skavau]

I don't intend too, either.

I assume they know themselves, why.

They aren't problematic - unless you can provide some empirical evidence of their existence. If you can't, then they can be dismissed as mere claims.

At any rate, if you don't intend to back your claims up here - you're deliberately not attempting to relate to the subforum here. Why did you post this thread?

 

[ukgrace]

Following is a list of animals found in the Bible:

1. fowled bat
2. behemoth
3. leviathan
4. four-legged grasshopper
5. satyr
6. unicorn
7. dragon
8. straw-eating lions

I contend that these animals are problematic for evolutionists.

In reality quite the opposite is true, fundamentalists want so desperately for the existence of these mythical creatures to be true along with angels and spirits that they try and make it seem as if the rest of Christendom feels the same way, the rest of Christendom in fact are either just mad at them for being so foolish or just laugh at them for being so foolish, either way creationists are out there on their own, isolated from the rest of Christendom and society by their self imposed stupidity.

 

[AV1611VET]

At any rate, if you don't intend to back your claims up here - you're deliberately not attempting to relate to the subforum here. Why did you post this thread?

The OP contains a list of things that I believe to be just as real as God, Himself.

If I dismiss them, I may as well be dismissing God; and I assure you, I'm not going to do that.

The Bible says it -- that settles it; and evidence (or lack thereof) can take a hike.

 

[AV1611VET]

In reality quite the opposite is true, fundamentalists want so desperately for the existence of these mythical creatures to be true along with angels and spirits that they try and make it seem as if the rest of Christendom feels the same way...

I'm going to have to disagree.

I asked my wife to name the cryptozoologic animals in the Bible, and she could only come up with behemoth and leviathan -- and that after some thought.

I would say her desperation-factor is pretty low.

 

[Cabal]

If I dismiss them, I may as well be dismissing God; and I assure you, I'm not going to do that.

Sounds like pretty weak faith there.

I'm going to have to disagree.

I asked my wife to name the cryptozoologic animals in the Bible, and she could only come up with behemoth and leviathan -- and that after some thought.

I would say her desperation-factor is pretty low.

I would say your statistical ability needs work. N=2 -> fail.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sounds like pretty weak faith there.

How much do I need?

Lu 17:6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

 

[Cabal]

How much do I need?

Lu 17:6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

So those able to not have their faith fall to pieces because one or two details aren't correct in the way they previously thought are doing much better, then.

 

[Freodin]

How much do I need?

Lu 17:6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

Ever tried it?

 

[Hespera]

In reality quite the opposite is true, fundamentalists want so desperately for the existence of these mythical creatures to be true along with angels and spirits that they try and make it seem as if the rest of Christendom feels the same way, the rest of Christendom in fact are either just mad at them for being so foolish or just laugh at them for being so foolish, either way creationists are out there on their own, isolated from the rest of Christendom and society by their self imposed stupidity.

As for eating straw, nothing can eat that unless you count mold and bacteria as "eating" something. That is why it is used for bedding, not for feed.

But hey in magic magic land I suppose even the deep sea viper fish

are going to have to learn to come to the surface, and eat their carrots and spinach. or straw.

NO more predation allowed!!! No more or this nasty reproduction either.