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Demonic Infiltration of the Catholic Church?

The Penitent Man

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In particular, during the Spanish Inquisition. The torture devices constructed by human hands but surely of satanic design. And that is to say nothing of the Inquisition itself!

Why else would the Devil infiltrate the Church but to thrust a defiant middle finger up at God?
 
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Anoetos

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I think this picture says it all:
evil-pope.jpg
 
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robinoflocksley

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Just a little bit of history would help you understand. The church was fighting heresy among catholics and if they found someone guilty the would turn them over to the local heads of state, and they would carry out any punishment. Was it wrong, YES. Was it as wide spread, NO. What about 16th century England. just how many catholics were made martyrs?
by our Church of England brothers? can we say that the Archbishop of Canterbury is THE DEVIL
 
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In particular, during the Spanish Inquisition. The torture devices constructed by human hands but surely of satanic design. And that is to say nothing of the Inquisition itself!

Why else would the Devil infiltrate the Church but to thrust a defiant middle finger up at God?

Many would say that infiltration took place long before the Inquisition.
 
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That is not "history", it's RC whitewashing spin.
and much of the other is the "black label"
the English historians did not like the Spanish at all, the Spanish were catholics and Spain was a major rival to England for a while, so a lot of demonazation went on in the history books
not saying all of it is untrue, but much of it was exagerated
 
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Rick Otto

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The devil's best trick is to make those who don't like him & believe he exists look foolish.

Helicopters left me alone once the Vatican had the satellite placed in "Ottosynchronus" orbit.
I knew too much 30yrs ago.
I was conspiratorial before it was crazy to be conspiratorial.
 
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In particular, during the Spanish Inquisition. The torture devices constructed by human hands but surely of satanic design. And that is to say nothing of the Inquisition itself!

Why else would the Devil infiltrate the Church but to thrust a defiant middle finger up at God?

It was the Spanish Inquistion that tortured people- and it was run by the Spanish government to get rid of Muslim Moors and Jews.
 
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In particular, during the Spanish Inquisition. The torture devices constructed by human hands but surely of satanic design. And that is to say nothing of the Inquisition itself!

Why else would the Devil infiltrate the Church but to thrust a defiant middle finger up at God?

The devil does some pretty good work in secular places as well.
 
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I think the Catholic Church as a whole is present day Pharisees and Sadducees. They are so stuck on their history and rituals that they are losing sight of what Christianity is. If they had to pick between the Pope and Jesus Christ, I think Jesus would be left in the cold.
 
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I think the Catholic Church as a whole is present day Pharisees and Sadducees. They are so stuck on their history and rituals that they are losing sight of what Christianity is. If they had to pick between the Pope and Jesus Christ, I think Jesus would be left in the cold.

A statement like that could only be made by someone that does not know anything about Catholicism or any faithful Catholics.

This is a statement that derives from living in a culture with myths and a few views into Catholicism but not much more. If one person's church has a praise and worship band and has a charismatic preacher that motivates people, then to him, that church is right. If the Catholics are offering worship in a way that is orderly and allows people to participate and speak as one voice, then that is just all hung up on rituals.

It is certain protestants that get hung up on the rituals of others. I believe the reason for it is that many realize just how empty their service is. That is why they have screaming preachers, giant choirs, rock bands, whatever gimmick entertains for a while. They need something to be excited by and so when they see someone doing something else, an actual liturgy, they believe something must be wrong and they surely aren't getting the same excitement they get from their loud preacher or moving worship band. They didn't have the same powerful altar call where they got saved.

I don't think Catholicism is any more ritualistic than most other traditions of Christians. The difference is that Christ is present for us in the appearance of bread and wine...and that means more to us than whatever rush the modern, gimmicky churches come up with. The experience is so important, so powerful that there needs to be a certain sense of quiet and dignity. But most importantly, as we celebrate our unity in communion, we also cekebrate in our voices and actions together-- which you call ritualistic, but we believe is unified.
 
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