Catholics-Muslims spiritually united?

[LittleLambofJesus]

It is written in the RCC hand book.. thou shalt unite all faiths under RCC as brethren in the faith.. He is just working towards that goal.

Yep.....It is not for lack of trying

http://www.christianforums.com/t7411153/
Slick move by the Pope to attract Anglicans

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

of course we don't expect the pope to adhere to our definitions as found in Scripture..if we agreed with him we'd be rc's too.

Good point

 

[MrPolo]

dup

 

[MrPolo]

If these tenets are part of a belief system that does not have as its pinnacle the person and work of Christ, then I would say most certainly.

I would say believing in a Creator is a good step toward believing in Christ. Even the Bible starts out that way. Personally, I don't think the Bible is from Satan even though the logic of some people in this thread leads to that conclusion. If someone stumbles after believing in a Creator, then believing in a Creator isn't the problem, but some subsequent obstacle is.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I would say believing in a Creator is a good step toward believing in Christ. Even the Bible starts out that way. Personally, I don't think the Bible is from Satan even though the logic of some people in this thread leads to that conclusion. If someone stumbles after believing in a Creator, then believing in a Creator isn't the problem, but some subsequent obstacle is.

The Bible speaks OF Satan, so how can it be from Satan?

Reve 3:9 Behold! I-am-giving out of the synagogue/sun-agwghV <4864> of the Satan, to-the ones saying them-selves Judeans to-be and not they-are, but are false.
Behold! I shall be making them that they shall be arriving, and they shall be worshipping before the feet of thee, and they may be knowing that I love/hgaphsa <25> (5656) thee.

 

[visionary]

compromise may be necessary to achieve goal... do you think it is ok to call God .. allah..

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

compromise may be necessary to achieve goal... do you think it is ok to call God .. allah..

I was under the impression some converted arabic islamic Christian still use it?
Here is a thread on it

http://www.christianforums.com/t7439802-14/#post54104891
Allah is a blasphemy of God's name.

 

[simonthezealot]

All possible definitions of the phrase "spiritual bond" are in Scripture? Are you using Webster's Bible?
The point is, if you want to understand what another person is saying, you should make the effort to know how a person is using a certain term instead of insisting he is not allowed to use the term different than you permit and therefore is saying something he doesn't mean.

I'm not sure it even matters what he meant by "spiritual bond", in regards to the CC's relationship to the muslims, the view espoused by Rome has allowed for overtures toward the Islamic faith that contradict orthodox Christian teaching... That in itself has a shroud of darkness.

 

[simonthezealot]

compromise may be necessary to achieve goal... do you think it is ok to call God .. allah..

NO WAY.

 

[MrPolo]

in regards to the CC's relationship to the muslims, the view espoused by Rome has allowed for overtures toward the Islamic faith that contradict orthodox Christian teaching... That in itself has a shroud of darkness.

I don't know what this means. So I have no response.

 

[simonthezealot]

I would say believing in a Creator is a good step toward believing in Christ. Even the Bible starts out that way.

You mean where scripture says "let US make man in OUR image"

 

[MrPolo]

compromise may be necessary to achieve goal... do you think it is ok to call God .. allah..

I'm not sure what term God is translated to in all other languages. But as to your point about compromise, true tenets of the faith should never be compromised in ecumenism. So I think we agree.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I'm not sure it even matters what he meant by "spiritual bond", in regards to the CC's relationship to the muslims, the view espoused by Rome has allowed for overtures toward the Islamic faith that contradict orthodox Christian teaching... That in itself has a shroud of darkness.

Remember also that the Muslims venerate Mary

http://www.christianforums.com/t7244198-9/#post47246349
Islam and the Mary/Jesus story

 

[visionary]

daat true... they have Mary in common...

 

[simonthezealot]

I don't know what this means. So I have no response.

I'm just saying that suggesting allah and God Almighty are one in the same is unorthodox teaching and i don't think your church should be misguiding the islamic faith about God like this.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

daat true... they have Mary in common...

I asked them this question and never got a definitive answer.
They would more than likely be closer to the Protestants than RC/EO becuz of this ehehe...

http://www.christianforums.com/t7244198/#post54520143

Another question I would like to ask is, do the Muslims believe Mary gave birth to other children after Jesus was born as there seems to be some disagreements within Christianity whether she did or didn't? Thanks and Salam

*snip*
Since, we have no mention of whether Mary had any other children, we cannot affirm nor deny this.

 

[MrPolo]

daat true... they have Mary in common...

Isn't Mary in your Bible?

 

[MrPolo]

I'm just saying that suggesting allah and God Almighty are one in the same is unorthodox teaching and i don't think your church should be misguiding the islamic faith about God like this.

I know I've gone into this subject with you before..... In this thread, it ultimately dodges whether or not it is correct to acknowledge a Creator.

 

[visionary]

I'm just saying that suggesting allah and God Almighty are one in the same is unorthodox teaching and i don't think your church should be misguiding the islamic faith about God like this.

what would an orthodox church have in common with the unorthodox

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by visionary daat true... they have Mary in common...

Isn't Mary in your Bible?

She is also in the Quran

Mary in the Quran

*snip*

When naming the best woman who ever lived, Mohammed named Mary (Maryam in Arabic), the mother of Jesus, as the best woman to ever live.