Hitler the Roman Catholic

[libertarianSkeptic747]

a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.
b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school. (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.)
c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.
d) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.” His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.” -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

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[libertarianSkeptic747]

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited. -Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922



Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped into madness to attack those who, God's truth! seek to deal with this people in utter honesty and sincerity. -Adolf Hitler, in Munich, 28 July 1922




In the Bible we find the text, 'That which is neither hot nor cold will I spew out of my mouth.' This utterance of the great Nazarene has kept its profound validity until the present day.
-Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich, 10 April 1923




There are three words which many use without a thought which for us are no catch-phrases: Love, Faith, and Hope.... We are fanatical in our love for our people....
We have faith in the rights of our people, the rights which have existed time out of mind. We protest against the view that every other nation should have rights - and we have none. We must learn to make our own this blind faith in the rights of our people, in the necessity of devoting ourselves to the service of these rights; we must make our own the faith that gradually victory must be granted us if only we are fanatical enough. And from this love and from this faith there emerges for us the idea of hope. When others doubt and hesitate for the future of Germany - we have no doubts. We have both the hope and the faith that Germany will and must once more become great and mighty.
We have faith that one day Heaven will bring the Germans back into a Reich over which there shall be no Soviet star, no Jewish star of David, but above that Reich there shall be the symbol of German labor - the Swastika. And that will mean that the first of May has truly come.
-Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich, 01 May 1923

 

[CaptainNemo1138]

Rant

Hitler was whatever he needed to be in order to manipulate people. Christian, Atheist, Scientist, Luddite. Anything to control Germany for his mad dreams.

 

[Etsi]

And yet there were Catholic priests and nuns all over helping Jews to escape this genocide. Not to mention all of the other Christians from SDA to Lutheran that not only helped the Jews and others during the holocaust, but suffered themselves for their actions.

One madman's claims does not make it so, nor does it condemn an entire faith (Christianity in general as well as Catholic specifically).

Do you want me to pull up all the garbage that Margaret Sanger said?

 

[libertarianSkeptic747]

I'm low on points, so I'm not able to post links, all the content above can be googled.

If Hitler wasn't a christian, then it was quite wary why he was so anti-semitismic. Actually, in the 1930s, the anti-semitism wasn't any better in USA. This was a major reason why a lot jews in america remained silent when nazi started to prosecute jewish ppl in germany&#8212;they fear nazi counterparts on US soil. And who are the major participants of the US anti-semitism? Christians.

Stalin was sent to an Orthodox school at a very early age. Too bad christianity isn't smart enough to trick little Joesph.

If you dare to argue that "evil ppl exploit christianity to do evil things" then here is the perfect response: What's the point? If christianity can not be used as panacea, under certain circumstances, it can be used as poison, what's the point? A person willing to do good, regardless of what he/she would believe, can still be good. Ghandi is far more better than any pope, despite the fact that he was once a supporter of Hitler and Mussolini.

A "good christian" is no more than a good person that happens to be a christian. If your child(ren) refuse to be obedient, why not stone him to death? You can't say "nobody do this anymore"? Because thy lord's word is perfect? If he said it, he meant it?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
&#8212;Steven Weinberg

 

[libertarianSkeptic747]

And yet there were Catholic priests and nuns all over helping Jews to escape this genocide. Not to mention all of the other Christians from SDA to Lutheran that not only helped the Jews and others during the holocaust, but suffered themselves for their actions.

One madman's claims does not make it so, nor does it condemn an entire faith (Christianity in general as well as Catholic specifically).

Exactly what I'm trying to say. What's the point of those "christianity teaches ppl to be good" stuff? Where did that "holier than thou" attitude come from?

Do you want me to pull up all the garbage that Margaret Sanger said?

*Chuckle*

As you wish lady. It was supposed to have something to do with me?

 

[CaptainNemo1138]

I'm low on points, so I'm not able to post links, all the content above can be googled.

If Hitler wasn't a christian, then it was quite wary why he was so anti-semitismic. Actually, in the 1930s, the anti-semitism wasn't any better in USA. This was a major reason why a lot jews in america remained silent when nazi started to prosecute jewish ppl in germany—they fear nazi counterparts on US soil. And who are the major participants of the US anti-semitism? Christians.

Stalin was sent to an Orthodox school at a very earlier age. Too bad christianity isn't smart enough to convince little Joesph.

If you dare to argue that "evil ppl exploit christianity to do evil things" then here is the perfect response: What's the point? If christianity can not be used as a panacea, under certain circumstances, it can be used as poison, what's the point? A ppl willing to do good, regardless of what he/she would believe, can still be good. Ghandi is far more better than any pope, despite the fact that he was once a supporter of Hitler and Mussolini.

A "good christian" is no more than a good person that happens to be a christian. If your child(ren) refuse to be obedient, why not stone him to death? You can't say "nobody do this anymore"?

With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
—Steven Weinberg

Listen, one should always question authority, but you can't blaim Christianity for Hitler and more then you can blame the Theory of Evolution. Hitler. Was. Insane. He used anything he could find to get his way. No, let's close this topic before this breaks out into a flame war, 'kay?

 

[libertarianSkeptic747]

No, not ok actually. If christianity can be used to do very sadistic things, what's the point of it anyway?

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Hitler was whatever he needed to be in order to manipulate people. Christian, Atheist, Scientist, Luddite. Anything to control Germany for his mad dreams.

+1

Hitler's true religion, inasmuch as he had one, was a weird admixture of Christianity and paganism. But in the end, it was whatever advanced his megalomaniac thirst for power. After all, the people are more easily taken by a big lie than a small one, right?

 

[CaptainNemo1138]

No, not ok actually. If christianity can be used to do very sadistic things, what's the point of it anyway?

Anything can be used for good or for evil. It is we, as humans, who choose what we do and why.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

No, not ok actually. If christianity can be used to do very sadistic things, what's the point of it anyway?

I can use a hammer to build a home, or bash someone's skull in.

Almost anything can be abused for evil purposes. Even elements necessary to sustain life can be harmful or lethal in the wrong place and quantity.

 

[CaptainNemo1138]

I'm calling this a troll topic, in order to preserve my sanity.

 

[libertarianSkeptic747]

+1
After all, the people are more easily taken by a big lie than a small one, right?

You have no idea how ironic it is words like this came out of a christian and a supporter of socialism.

 

[CaptainNemo1138]

You have no idea how ironic it is words like this came out of a Christian and a supporter of socialism.

Don't you have an Ayn Rand novel you need to go feel smug about reading?

 

[libertarianSkeptic747]

Anything can be used for good or for evil. It is we, as humans, who choose what we do and why.

Um... this seems to be what I'm trying to say???

I can use a hammer to build a home, or bash someone's skull in.

Almost anything can be abused for evil purposes. Even elements necessary to sustain life can be harmful or lethal in the wrong place and quantity.

What is the point of religion? Is it true then, that christianity is a superior tool when teaching good?

I'm calling this a troll topic, in order to preserve my sanity.

Wow slow down there! Why everytime we hit the truth you theists starting to yell "foul play"&#65311;

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

You have no idea how ironic it is words like this came out of a christian and a supporter of socialism.

That was a paraphrase of a Hitler quote, and as we've already established numerous times on these forums, Hitler was a socialist in name only, and his Christianity was too tainted by Germanic paganism and mysticism to be considered true.

But, as the cast of characters in Atlas Shrugged indicated, Hitler was far from the only writer to have fantasies of a world ruled by Aryan supermen...

 

[Etsi]

Exactly what I'm trying to say. What's the point of those "christianity teaches ppl to be good" stuff? Where did that "holier than thou" attitude come from?

Christianity isn't about "teaching ppl to be good". There are plenty of Atheists that have a holier than thou as well

As you wish lady. It was supposed to have something to do with me?

Margaret Sanger was an atheist, a racist, and a eugenicist.

 

[libertarianSkeptic747]

Don't you have an Ayn Rand novel you need to go feel smug about reading?

Too bad, no. I read alot, Marx, Lennin, Bakunin Russel, Jean Paul Sartre(I'm trying) Camus...

My fav. novel so far is 1984. Not Ayn Rand's.

 

[CaptainNemo1138]

Wow slow down there! Why everytime we hit the truth you theists starting to yell "foul play"&#65311;

Nice blanket statement, spunky. I call you a troll because you claim Hitler's Christianity caused his Anti-Semitism, as oppose to, you know, his enviroment/insanity//etc. I call you a troll because you type like a hyper twelve year old. I call you a troll because of you holier-then-thou attitude. Now, either you honestly are a Randroid, or you're a Fundie troll. Either way, this topic should be closed before it get's ugly.

 

[CaptainNemo1138]

Too bad, no. I read alot, Marx, Lenin, Bakunin Russel, Jean Paul Sartre(I'm trying) Camus...

My fav. novel so far is 1984. Not Ayn Rand's.

You know Orwell was a socialist, right? And the rest of your reading list seems awfully odd for a self proclaimed libertarian, and so, once again, I must call troll.