Lunar Water

[dad]

You forgot their scientific method.

1. Gravitons found to exist by actual scientists doing hard graft.
2. Claim that you totally called it first and Jesus definitely exists.

No. I would think that spiritons make gravity behave. Here, in this universe, it really misbehaves, being on it's own. Of course we need it, but it really does overdo things, I think. Like a teen out partying, one day he will come home, and work with his brothers and sisters, the spiritual forces family. And all will be well.

 

[AV1611VET]

Because it can't survive just anywhere - and always good to know how much there is for future reference.

It looks like all these sci-fi movies about creatures coming here from a dying planet are starting to backfire on us.

We need to put up a sign in space:

[sign]DON'T COME HERE LOOKING FOR WATER, WE'RE LOOKING TOO[/sign]

 

[TerranceL]

No, perhaps 'they' didn't need to lob missles to the moon, when they had scientists dumb enough to do the dirty work for them.

So they were lazy and cowardly.

Gotcha.

 

[thaumaturgy]

I get the feeling they weren't exactly the ones who went there and checked.

Sure they were. They were the ones from India.

Sure India is more than 80% Hindu, but who's counting when Christian Theorists are coming up with such discoveries?

 

[dad]

So they were lazy and cowardly.

Gotcha.

No, they had better things to do with money than hit the moon with missiles. We will be going to the far reaches of the universe and other universes soon enough. There are enough people on earth having trouble finding water, leave it to pagans to spend trillions piddling on lunar puddles.

Man is wicked, and has militarized space. Soon as he can, the moon would be the terror station for weapons against fellow man on earth. All man does is stink up the earth, endanger it, and now he is working on messing up the moon, and space. It is neither cowardly, nor lazy to refrain from wasting time and money on such garbage endeavors.

However, as man does learn some little things along the way, taxpayers can avail themselves of that knowledge. That I do.

Just look at the 5 explanations from science on the water!!! Looks more like a list of the absurd, to be read on a late night show!

 

[Cabal]

I'm done with this thread.

Dad, AV and <staff edit>, keep coughing up the tax dollars.<staff edit>
Thanks!

 

[Sanguis]

No, they had better things to do with money than hit the moon with missiles. We will be going to the far reaches of the universe and other universes soon enough. There are enough people on earth having trouble finding water, leave it to pagans to spend trillions piddling on lunar puddles.

Typical creationist, always against advancement of knowledge. Afraid that as we gain more knowledge, your religious beliefs become less and less meaningful?

Man is wicked, and has militarized space. Soon as he can, the moon would be the terror station for weapons against fellow man on earth. All man does is stink up the earth, endanger it, and now he is working on messing up the moon, and space. It is neither cowardly, nor lazy to refrain from wasting time and money on such garbage endeavors.

Lulz. "...militarised space." Yeah, just look up at all those orbital lasers, and that fleet of battle cruisers.

You think that space is being militarised? Seriously? When the only use the military has for space, is with satellites. But considering how many military satellites are up there, against how many civillian satellites, such as sky satellites, and ersearch satellites such as Hubble or the ISS, how exactly, is space becoming militarised?

We're studying it, not blowing it up.

How, exactly, could we mess up the moon?

It's a giant, lifeless rock.

Oooh, I know, we could bring creationism over there!

Just look at the 5 explanations from science on the water!!! Looks more like a list of the absurd, to be read on a late night show!

They're hypothesising. As a creationist, I honestly doubt you're familliar with that term, but never mind.

 

[Doveaman]

There are enough people on earth having trouble finding water

Good point.

Even though there is no doubt we benefit greatly from science, I think we also waste a lot of tax payers money on meaningless space endeavors, money that can be better spent to feed the poor here on earth.

I'll wait to see what returns I get on my tax dollars that went into finding water on the moon.

 

[dad]

I'm done with this thread.

Dad, AV and other ignorami, keep coughing up the tax dollars. Don't worry, you can still live off the benefits of science despite all your whinging and naysaying.

Thanks!

There is no law saying we must like all that governments spend money on. Even if that might knock some gods off the table for some folks.

It is lunacy to spend money on the moon. If we follow the logic of lobbing missles into the moon, why not send all eart nukes up there? If they get real lucky, and nearly blow the thing up, thinkk of all we can learn about the interior!

 

[Cabal]

There is no law saying we must like all that governments spend money on.

On the contrary, I sincerely hope they spend it on stuff you don't like.

It is lunacy to spend money on the moon. If we follow the logic of lobbing missles into the moon, why not send all eart nukes up there? If they get real lucky, and nearly blow the thing up, thinkk of all we can learn about the interior!

Missiles =/= space probes.

Bye now

 

[Nathan Poe]

The moon is hostile to liquid water. So, how it got there, for science is a mystery.

Except it didn't. The moon has water, but I don't recall anyone saying it was liquid.

 

[dad]

On the contrary, I sincerely hope they spend it on stuff you don't like.

They will, for a short while, then, aq quoth the raven, nevermore, nevermore.

Missiles =/= space probes.

Bye now

Well, the problem men have is a wicked heart. No zooming around the planet will fix that. When John Glen went to space, far as I know, he didn't help set up MERVS. Yet, they were not long after, when man was able. The first excursions to the moon do not mean a WOMD base is set up, but that would only take about as long as they were able to do it.


The explanations of how the moon got here, really have detail. See this example

""It was a huge collision that threw dust and debris out into space and some of that material somehow reassembled and orbited around the Earth and eventually built up a moon," Dr. Rieke explained."

Unlocking The Mystery Of The Moon -- Astrophysicists Search Skies For A Moon Like Earth's

And they all lived happily ever after...



Hey, let's test that out. The debris from the missle, did it reassemble in a little moon orbiting the moon?

 

[dad]

Except it didn't. The moon has water, but I don't recall anyone saying it was liquid.

So you are back again, getting quite a name for yourself on the net I hear.

No, the water can't exist as liquid there. That would be why most of the flood water that hit the moon couln't remain.


"the airless moon is inhospitable to liquid water. As a result, the water would theoretically remain frozen for eons."
Unlocking The Mystery Of The Moon -- Astrophysicists Search Skies For A Moon Like Earth's

 

[dad]

<staff edit>
Me claim to do science? Can you show us where I said that? As far as the drug thing, not sure where you pulled that out of.

Freedom exists, whether you likey or lumpy, to support projects or oppose them. This can be done in a civilized way. Sorry, we just are not all your religion.

 

[Nathan Poe]

So you are back again, getting quite a name for yourself on the net I hear.

It has been too long, hasn't it, dad? How are things going with the cheese?

No, the water can't exist as liquid there. That would be why most of the flood water that hit the moon couln't remain.

Assuming any hit it at all.

"the airless moon is inhospitable to liquid water. As a result, the water would theoretically remain frozen for eons."

Which doesn't say anything about where the water came from in the first place.

Personally, I find the "hit by a comet" hypothesis the most plausible.

 

[Cabal]

They will, for a short while, then, aq quoth the raven, nevermore, nevermore.

Long may it continue, I say.

Well, the problem men have is a wicked heart. No zooming around the planet will fix that. When John Glen went to space, far as I know, he didn't help set up MERVS. Yet, they were not long after, when man was able. The first excursions to the moon do not mean a WOMD base is set up, but that would only take about as long as they were able to do it.

THAT'S NO MOON!!!!!1

The explanations of how the moon got here, really have detail. See this example

""It was a huge collision that threw dust and debris out into space and some of that material somehow reassembled and orbited around the Earth and eventually built up a moon," Dr. Rieke explained."

Unlocking The Mystery Of The Moon -- Astrophysicists Search Skies For A Moon Like Earth's

And they all lived happily ever after...

That's a lot more useful content than "Goddidit".

Hey, let's test that out. The debris from the missle, did it reassemble in a little moon orbiting the moon?

Not powerful enough of a collision, I expect, therefore not comparable.

 

[Doveaman]

""It was a huge collision that threw dust and debris out into space and some of that material somehow reassembled and orbited around the Earth and eventually built up a moon," Dr. Rieke explained."

This kinda reminds me of this folktale:

"In the beginning there was once a void containing no matter, no space, and no time. For some reason not explained by the scientists who support the theory, an irruption of energy, a big bang, from another realm of existence replaced the void with what eventually became the present Universe."

But lets not change the subject.

 

[thaumaturgy]

It is lunacy to spend money on the moon.

So you don't think there were any technological benefits from the Apollo space program?

Fine.

1. Tell it to the firefighters who are better protected because of flame-retardant and protective materials that came out of the program.

2, Tell it to the people who are alive today because of miniaturized implantable defribilators for their heart.

3. Tell it to the people who help bloated electrical grids function because some of us use solar panels that generate more electricity than we use in parts of the year.

4. Tell it to the lunatics who insist on having to get dialysis to stay alive and can benefit from improved systems over the older systems.

5. While you're visiting the hospitals and clinics telling people about the lunacy, make sure to stop off and have a gab with the people who have insulin delivered by a programmable implantable delivery system designed based off of NASA Apollo technology

Read something. Like THIS LINK

Those wacky lunatics.

 

[thaumaturgy]

The explanations of how the moon got here, really have detail. See this example

""It was a huge collision that threw dust and debris out into space and some of that material somehow reassembled and orbited around the Earth and eventually built up a moon," Dr. Rieke explained."

Unlocking The Mystery Of The Moon -- Astrophysicists Search Skies For A Moon Like Earth's

And they all lived happily ever after...

That's hilarious, Dad! You topped yourself yet again! Here we see you complaining about the lunacy of studies of the moon and in the same thread you lambaste people's lack of complete knowledge of the moon's history!

I think this stands as good evidence that people like you need ignorance to be around so you can shoehorn your weird "wild-guesses" into the mix and have them be "accepted".

Ignorance shouldn't be your best friend.

 

[dad]

It has been too long, hasn't it, dad? How are things going with the cheese?

Cheese? I still eat cheese, thanks. Once in a blue moon, I eat swiss cheese, to remind me of the holes in same state science.

Assuming any hit it at all.

Well, it had to get there somehow. As the OP explains, the earth is a possible source according scientific theory.

Which doesn't say anything about where the water came from in the first place.

Well, a nearby source with water to spare, was earth! Not sure why I would imagine martians dumping it there, or extra solar system debris wafting it in. Better to work with known quantities.

Personally, I find the "hit by a comet" hypothesis the most plausible.

You know, that was the first one I also gravitated to. With the origin of the meteors or debris, again being earth!