Lunar Water

[dad]

The moon is hostile to liquid water. So, how it got there, for science is a mystery.

Some Christian theroists envision water from the flood having gotten into space. From there, ending up on places like the moon.

I see science is starting to catch up..


"
Or perhaps catastrophic asteroid or comet impacts on Earth ejected seawater into space, and the orbiting moon passed through the vapor cloud, emerging somewhat soggier.
Both of these two scenarios are theoretically possible, though Schultz admits,..."

Where Is Water on Moon From--Volcanoes, Sun ... Earth?


Apparently, for many, this is news..

 

[Cabal]

The moon is hostile to liquid water. So, how it got there, for science is a mystery.

Some Christian theroists envision water from the flood having gotten into space. From there, ending up on places like the moon.

I see science is starting to catch up..

Yes, science is getting data. Where's yours? Oh wait.

"
Or perhaps catastrophic asteroid or comet impacts on Earth ejected seawater into space, and the orbiting moon passed through the vapor cloud, emerging somewhat soggier.
Both of these two scenarios are theoretically possible, though Schultz admits,..."

Where Is Water on Moon From--Volcanoes, Sun ... Earth?


Apparently, for many, this is news..

Yup, because it's not like "Christian theorists", whatever that piece of jargon means, ever came up with anything conclusive on the matter.

 

[AV1611VET]

The moon is hostile to liquid water. So, how it got there, for science is a mystery.

I'm not so sure it's a mystery, bro.

Scientists have always taught that those smooth things up there are seas; until the computer age, where uniformitarianism is easier to program into computers than catastrophism, and yields the faster results that the Publish or Perish Principle demands.

 

[Cabal]

I'm not so sure it's a mystery, bro.

Scientists have always taught that those smooth things up there are seas; until the computer age, where uniformitarianism is easier to program into computers than catastrophism, and yields the faster results that the Publish or Perish Principle demands.

Or the much easier and less paranoid answer, which is we actually went there instead of speculating.

And you're assuming the only way water could have gotten there is via catastrophism, which is likely untrue.

 

[AV1611VET]

Or the much easier and less paranoid answer, which is we actually went there instead of speculating.

No --- we went there while you watched.

You guys who like to tell us how creationism stunts the growth of science need to watch the news more.

 

[Sanguis]

Water's made up of the most common, and third most common elements in the universe.

It's not exactly a rare substance.

 

[AV1611VET]

Water's made up of the most common, and third most common elements in the universe.

It's not exactly a rare substance.

Then why do we send bots all over God's creation looking for it?

 

[Cabal]

No --- we went there while you watched. You guys who like to tell us how creationism stunts the growth of science need to watch the news more.

Aren't you the one always complaining about sending stuff into space? NASA's not exactly in great shape now that whingers like you have had their effect.

Nice though that you can still claim this one for creationism when it suits.

So I take it now that you've resorted to your usual bait-and-switch tactic you can't justify your paranoid claims about lunar maria and what scientists said about them?

 

[Cabal]

Then why do we send bots all over God's creation looking for it?

Because it can't survive just anywhere - and always good to know how much there is for future reference.

 

[Super_Rational]

Some Christian theroists envision water from the flood having gotten into space. From there, ending up on places like the moon.

What exactly is a christian theorist? Anyone can "envision" something. Now finding real support for it...that's a tad more difficult.

Btw, if someone believes the water on the moon came from "the flood," then what's stopping them from believing that god just made the water on the moon to begin with? Same amount of evidence either way. (zero)

 

[TerranceL]

Hahaha, water from the flood.

Hilarious.

 

[dad]

Yes, science is getting data. Where's yours? Oh wait.



Yup, because it's not like "Christian theorists", whatever that piece of jargon means, ever came up with anything conclusive on the matter.

How would you know, like you read their stuff?

 

[Cabal]

How would you know, like you read their stuff?

I get the feeling they weren't exactly the ones who went there and checked.

 

[dad]

What exactly is a christian theorist? Anyone can "envision" something. Now finding real support for it...that's a tad more difficult.

Yes anyone can play. Science plays. What would make someone a Christian theorist, would be having someone that does not omit Jesus from their theories. We all have the same stuff to work with. If someone theorizes that a lot of stuff like water went up around the time of the flood (as I have done) and, lo and behold, we find water on Mars and the moon, it all goes toward evidence. Especially when they haven't a clue how it got on the moon!

Btw, if someone believes the water on the moon came from "the flood," then what's stopping them from believing that god just made the water on the moon to begin with? Same amount of evidence either way. (zero)

Well, thankfully, there is a lot of evidences, and we do not just need to depend on one piece of the puzzle. If God is smart, (and wouldn't He have to be?) why would He put scads of water on a little earth ornament, that is hostile as an environment for liquid water?

"...the airless moon is inhospitable to liquid water." OP link

Unless of course the universe changed a lot since the moon was created! But even then, it makes no sense. Why? Because we also have the moon pock marked with impact craters. So, we have more than water hiding in cracks to explain.

One thing I found interesting was theory number 4. It refers to the wind of the sun being able, apparently, according to science, deliver water from here to the moon! Of course they need to put the moon right in our face, to allow present laws and ways to accomplish that. Of course, in the different former state that is implied by the bible, we don't need to do that.


"...during prehistoric periods when Earth's magnetic field was absent or weak, solar wind could have stripped water vapor from our planet's atmosphere and deposited it on the moon. "

OP link

Don't blame me, it is an article in the news!

Seems like science always come round, the poor fella is just a bit slow, and takes awhile

 

[Tinker Grey]

lessee ...

Gravitation theory:

1. Gravitons

Christian Gravitation Theory

1. Gravitons
2. Jesus makes gravitons work

Yeah, I can see how that would be helpful.

 

[Cabal]

lessee ...

Gravitation theory:

1. Gravitons

Christian Gravitation Theory

1. Gravitons
2. Jesus makes gravitons work

Yeah, I can see how that would be helpful.

You forgot their scientific method.

1. Gravitons found to exist by actual scientists doing hard graft.
2. Claim that you totally called it first and Jesus definitely exists.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Oops. Thanks for the correction.

 

[Super_Rational]

What would make someone a Christian theorist, would be having someone that does not omit Jesus from their theories.

Hmm...the Jesus theory. I like that. It sure beats doing all that hard work (real science).

We all have the same stuff to work with. If someone theorizes that a lot of stuff like water went up around the time of the flood (as I have done) and, lo and behold, we find water on Mars and the moon, it all goes toward evidence.

So, you now have a hypothesis. Next step is to show without a doubt that Jesus did it, and how he did it. You must also convince people that no known natural explanation exists. Good luck.

Especially when they haven't a clue how it got on the moon!

You're not confusing not knowing which process is responsible with not understanding the processes at all themselves, are you?

If God is smart, (and wouldn't He have to be?) why would He put scads of water on a little earth ornament, that is hostile as an environment for liquid water?

...Or perhaps he did and screwed up, and now most of it's gone (b/c it's inhospitable, right?).
...Or perhaps god had nothing to do with the moon at all.

 

[dad]

I get the feeling they weren't exactly the ones who went there and checked.

No, perhaps 'they' didn't need to lob missles to the moon, when they had scientists dumb enough to do the dirty work for them.

 

[dad]

Hmm...the Jesus theory. I like that. It sure beats doing all that hard work (real science).

Well, no, they work together. Of course the little role science can play in wondering about creation is small, and so misused, it is pitiful. But, yes, the creator does play a very prominent role in creation.

So, you now have a hypothesis. Next step is to show without a doubt that Jesus did it, and how he did it. You must also convince people that no known natural explanation exists. Good luck.

Did what? We don't need to pretend our science can prove Jesus did or did not do anything. Science isn't about proof. It is about making up real stupid stories, mostly.

You're not confusing not knowing which process is responsible with not understanding the processes at all themselves, are you?

No. Not at all. The processes of water getting to the moon as science speculates, are not known. Not much to confuse about ignorance, is there? They are clueless as to how the water got there. But it had to come from somewhere, they seem to grasp that much!

...Or perhaps he did and screwed up, and now most of it's gone (b/c it's inhospitable, right?).

No, God doesn't make mistakes...ever. If no water can exist on the moon, persay, we can be sure there is a reason for it. I understand why limited science of man would like to attribute cluelss, incompetenty to God. They try to make Him in their image!

...Or perhaps god had nothing to do with the moon at all.

No, that is known. He created the moon one day. No agaonizing needed over that. Of course science had to invent a mystery planet samcking into earth, and spitting out the moon, or some such, to try to explain it without God. Strange fables are their specialty.