Dark matter flicked away as nonsense

[dad]

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Only 4% of the universe is made of known material. Stars and gas in galaxies move so fast that astronomers have speculated that the gravity from a hypothetical invisible halo of dark matter is needed to keep galaxies together. However, a solid understanding of dark matter as well as direct evidence of its existence has remained elusive.
Now the team believes that the interactions between dark and ordinary matter could be more important and more complex than previously thought, and even speculate that dark matter might not exist and that the anomalous motions of stars in galaxies are due to a modification of gravity on extragalactic scales.....


Dr. Benoit Famaey (Universities of Bonn and Strasbourg) explains: "The dark matter seems to 'know' how the visible matter is distributed. They seem to conspire with each other such that the gravity of the visible matter at the characteristic radius of the dark halo is always the same. This is extremely surprising since one would rather expect the balance between visible and dark matter to strongly depend on the individual history of each galaxy."



Dr. Zhao at the SUPA Centre of Gravity notes, "The pattern that the data reveal is extremely odd. It's like finding a zoo of animals of all ages and sizes miraculously having identical, say, weight in their backbones or something. It is possible that a non-gravitational fifth force is ruling the dark matter with an invisible hand, leaving the same fingerprints on all galaxies, irrespective of their ages, shapes and sizes."


Is Unknown Force In Universe Acting On Dark Matter?


Welcome to TODAY'S science news!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[VirOptimus]

The article does not say what you think it says.

 

[laconicstudent]

The article does not say what you think it says.

Its also an opinion piece in a popular science journal. Shesh, Dad.... This isn't authoritative in the least, and VirOptimus is right. It doesn't say what you think.

 

[dad]

The article does not say what you think it says.

Actually, I think it certainly does. Why, you think you know what I think it says??

 

[dad]

Its also an opinion piece in a popular science journal. Shesh, Dad.... This isn't authoritative in the least, and VirOptimus is right. It doesn't say what you think.

I would think I would know whether it says what I think. Why not say what you think? That way, we can compare how you measure up to the new take on the universe. By the way, how is it you dismiss

"An international team of astronomers " as " isn't authoritative in the least"?? Maybe we all should simpply ask you, for "real" authority?

 

[Cabal]

An argument from incredulity. Whelp, I'm convinced.

 

[VirOptimus]

Actually, I think it certainly does. Why, you think you know what I think it says??

Because of your headline "Dark matter flicked away as nonsense".

 

[dad]

An argument from incredulity. Whelp, I'm convinced.

Of what? That scientists had it wrong all along? That the dark and murky labeling of almost all the universe was wrong? That astronomers from many countries are wrong? That you somehow believe what this new evidence flies in the face of?? Let us know the details of your position, now. You are important...

 

[dad]

Because of your headline "Dark matter flicked away as nonsense".

Well, if the 96% of the universe does not conform to the preconceived notions of what dark stuff is supposed to be, don't blame me. I thought it was a crock from the getgo.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is possible that a non-gravitational fifth force is ruling the dark matter with an invisible hand, leaving the same fingerprints on all galaxies, irrespective of their ages, shapes and sizes."

I find this dark matter intriguing, since God locked the fallen angels that came to earth away in "chains of darkness".

 

[thaumaturgy]

Well, if the 96% of the universe does not conform to the preconceived notions of what dark stuff is supposed to be, don't blame me. I thought it was a crock from the getgo.

You thought it was a crock all along. So did you have a way to explain the gravitational effects that lead scientists to think there was more mass than was visible?

What, exactly, was your insight that the scientists (many of whom can actually do algebra all by themselves!) were confused by?

 

[Thistlethorn]

Come on guys, don't feed it.

 

[Doveaman]

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Only 4% of the universe is made of known material.

I'm not quite sure that's true.

This might help: Plasma: The other 99.9%

And this: Plasma Cosmology .net

And this: Plasma-Universe.com

And this: THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS

 

[Doveaman]

"Dr. Zhao at the SUPA Centre of Gravity notes, "The pattern that the data reveal is extremely odd. It's like finding a zoo of animals of all ages and sizes miraculously having identical, say, weight in their backbones or something. It is possible that a non-gravitational fifth force is ruling the dark matter with an invisible hand, leaving the same fingerprints on all galaxies, irrespective of their ages, shapes and sizes."

If mainstream astronomy does not accept the fact that plasma "rules" the universe they will always be this confused.

Dark matter will always remain dark and invisible because it's not real. But the mainstream just don't get it.

 

[laconicstudent]

I'm not quite sure that's true.

This might help: Plasma: The other 99.9%

And this: Plasma Cosmology .net

And this: Plasma-Universe.com

And this: THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS

You plasma sources aren't authoritative in the slightest. Google Videos, plasma-universe.com, plasmacosmology.net and thunderbolts.info are not reliable. Find a peer-reviewed scientific source and then we'll give it more attention.

Same for you Dad. This article isn't what you think. And if these scientists ideas are so authoritative, why haven't they had an experiment proving it published yet? Conclusive, authoritative science are studies that get published in peer-review journals, not opinions espoused in interviews.

I find this dark matter intriguing, since God locked the fallen angels that came to earth away in "chains of darkness".

Interesting connection

 

[Doveaman]

You plasma sources aren't authoritative in the slightest. Google Videos, plasma-universe.com, plasmacosmology.net and thunderbolts.info are not reliable. Find a peer-reviewed scientific source and then we'll give it more attention.

That's like saying "It's not in the bible so I can't believe it".

It not being in the bible doesn't change the facts.

Weather or not we believe it doesn't change the facts.

Just because the "authoritative" don't recognize it doesn't change the facts.

Facts are facts no matter what. Unless it's dark matter of course.

Evidence for dark matter is not found in peer-review. Nor is it found in reality. If it is show me some, then I'll believe in it.

Plasma I can believe in because it's found in the real world:_

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[Avatar]

Come on guys, don't feed it.

Now, now - be nice. 'It' has been here a lot longer than you and provided way more entertainment.

 

[marlowe007]

'Dark matter' is just a fancy term for 'aether.'

Lights Out for Dark Matter Claim?

 

[Thistlethorn]

Now, now - be nice. 'It' has been here a lot longer than you and provided way more entertainment.

I thought it was entertaining at first, but when it just continues to repeat the same things over and over, it becomes a very annoying kind of troll. I'd say it's better left alone.

 

[dad]

I find this dark matter intriguing, since God locked the fallen angels that came to earth away in "chains of darkness".

Well, if so, dark matter would have to be spiritual. That might be a hard sell to science oriented folks. The reason they invented it, if I have it right is because of it's effect on the physical galaxies..So, if it is spiritual, it would have to affect the physical, if you are right.

My own opinion is that there really is no dark stuff, that is just something conjured up to explain effects on the physical universe. If there was a change in the universe, that would also explain it. But seeing most of the universe as spiritual might be worth thinking about. Any more reasons to support the idea?