What shows would Jesus watch, and Why? Or which ones would He not watch. Why? How about this, would you invite Him over to watch your favorite show.
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Alexander Whateley
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Personally, I dont think that Jesus would watch TV at all. Not because TV is sinful or anything, but because watching TV is like taking black spray paint to your mind. Sitting around and watching pictures in a box, expecially if they dont have any creative depth, is a waste of time, and doesnt do much to encourage your intelligence.
This is just my point of view, however. Feel free to dispute it
This is just my point of view, however. Feel free to dispute it
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Alexander Whateley
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Well, I dont really watch a lot of television. But I do watch quite a bit of movies. In which case, I would love to invite Jesus over to watch Pulp Fiction or something. He and I would have quite a time together. Im sure he can enjoy a movie just like anyone else.
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emperormar
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I will set no wicked thing before my eyes [Psalm 101:3]
Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. [James 4:4]
Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. [Psalm 1:1]
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will ishis good, pleasing and perfect will. [Romans 12:2]
The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness! [Matthew 6:22-23]
Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the worldthe cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and doescomes not from the Father but from the world.
[1 John 2:15-16]
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body. (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
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Alexander Whateley
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First I will ask how does one define wicked? All cultures and societies have different ideas of what is moral and immoral.
Most of those verses seem to be centered around not loving the world and loving God first and foremost. This is something about the Bible that I have never agreed with. This belief of not loving or caring for the world is the reason why people today pollute on a catastrophic level, and consume resources without regard for other forms of life on this world (not to mention those creatures are also of God).
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emperormar
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God defines what is wicked in His word and law.
When the Bible talks about "the world" it means the sinful fallen world (a sinful lifestyle) not the physical earth.
God told Adam to take care of the earth
"The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it." -Genesis 2:15
The Bible also addresses taking good care of animals.
"A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal" -Proverbs 12:10
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Alexander Whateley
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God may define what is wicked, but that doesnt mean that applies to all cultures, only to those who follow God's word.
And I know that when the Bible says "the world" it means a sinful lifestyle. That doesnt stop people from interpreting it as the physical world.
The Bible also says to be fruitful and multiply. That doesnt exactly do anything for our population problem.
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emperormar
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What God defines applies to anyone who fits the description.
People who actually follow God's word won't be wicked. The wicked are those who oppose His word & break His law.
Culture has nothing to do with this.
God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him (Acts 10:34-35)
So what are you just arguing because you feel like it and complaining about things you can't fix?
You don't agree with loving loving God first and foremost?
You need to stop trying to be the lord of your own truth and submit yourself to God whose "understanding is infinite." (Psalm 147:5)
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Alexander Whateley
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Just because some cultures dont follow our faith doesnt make them wicked. They can still be just as moral. That sort of thinking is what started Holy Wars.
Im not complaining just to complain, okay? I was just saying that the whole "be fruitful and multiply" thing is really not good advice, especially these days.
I never said that I didnt agree with loving God first. And I am not trying to be any sort of "lord". Stop trying to judge me.
"Judge not, that ye be not judged." Matthew 7:1
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emperormar
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If that wasn't what you meant you should have made it much more clear.Alexander Whateley said:
There is no morality outside of God. "If I have not love, I am nothing" (1 Corinthians 13) "God is love." (1 John 4:8).
Do people of other cultures not go to Hell because they don't believe the Christian faith is true?
You are either ignorant or making up your own truth.
Culture has nothing to do with this. God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him (Acts 10:34-35)
How is this not trying to be lord of your own truth?Alexander Whateley's Testimony said:
Jesus said, "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words" -John 12:48
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Alexander Whateley
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Yes I know, I should have made that more clear. Im sorry.
To say there is no morality for those who do not follow the Christian faith is a very close minded thing to say. Lets say that people of other cultures do revere "God", and live justly, but they just dont know which religion to follow. I beleive that God is just and fair, so why shouldnt this be enough for Him? Why should other people burn for eternity because they didnt label themselves like us?
And once again, to your quote of "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words." John 12:48: that is the type of thinking that caused Holy Wars and the Inquisition. And who's to say I dont follow every word of the Bible? Maybe I dont interpret everything literally, and I have my own interpretation. It is just as valid, because God is not here to answer every question we have about existence. But that aside, there may be a judge for those who do not follow the Bible for every word, but rest assured that it is not you, a human.
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emperormar
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That was my point as well.
John 14:6 "Jesus said to Him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.'"
John 17:3 Jesus says, "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."
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Alexander Whateley
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When are you going to admit that that sort of thinking is what has gotten people killed all throughout history?
And I was saying that, yes, accepting and respecting God is what brings salvation, but that cant mean that those who revere "God", but do not call Him by any name, cannot obtain salvation, because they still can be worshipping the same divine power.
Once again, this is my interpretation.
"The simple believeth every word, but the prudent man looketh well to his going" Proverbs 14:15
"The simple inherit folly, but the prudent are crowned with knowledge" Proverbs 14:18
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emperormar
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I'm not negating the need for study, prayer, illumination of the Holy Spirit before believing/understanding something.
Yeah and it got Jesus killed too
That is totally wrong. Why would Christ have died and sent His disciples to teach, evangelize, and baptize people in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?
Peter speaking about Jesus "There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12
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Alexander Whateley
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Well, since that is also what got Jesus killed, I dont know why you advocate that sort of thinking.
I was saying reverence and worship for a higher power in general should be enough. I dont understand why that shouldnt be enough for a truly just God. Its not very merciful.
And remember I said this was all my interpretation. Youre free to have yours as well. This is why we have the "need for study, prayer, illumination of the Holy Spirit before believing/understanding something".
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emperormar
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God is just and merciful but He is also Holy. Being Holy He must punish sin. However because God is loving He gives grace and mercy through Jesus Christ alone.
Why would God command that you have no other gods besides Him if "reverence and worship for a higher power in general should be enough"?
You have an interpretation but it isn't of God's Word. It is based on what you feel, what society has taught you to think (whether you realize it or not). Based on what you think is just & merciful. Based on what you understand. It isn't based on the holy living Word of God, the truth.
"There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day." -John 12:48
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Alexander Whateley
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Condemning all people who may be good people to suffering isnt exactly "punishing sin". It is tyranny and jealousy. And I know that people say "God is a jealous god", but why would our omniscient Lord have such a petty human emotion? People can get past jealousy. It just does not make sense.
No, this is my interpretation of the Bible, and there is nothing valid in saying that my interpretation isnt correct, because even what you are saying is an interpretation. And no, society has taught me to beleive every word I read and hear, but guess what? I dont.
I quoted Proverbs 14:15 "The simple beleiveth every word, but the prudent man looketh well to his going." You must not beleive everything you are told, but you must used reason and rationality to discern what is right.
I would also like to add: Why do you advocate that sort of thinking if it is what also got Jesus killed, as you say? You didnt answer me before.
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emperormar
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Society has taught you to believe in flawed human reason and rationality and what "makes sense" to you. From what you are saying, because you don't understand God He should fit the mold of what your mind makes up instead of being as He defined Himself and you humbling yourself and following Him by faith.
"You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God." (Matthew 22:29)
You don't know who God is, what salvation is, & that no one is good apart from God ("There is no one righteous, not even one" - Romans 3:10).
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Why do I advocate that sort of thinking? The thinking that Jesus is the only way to know God?
Because it is the truth! Not my interpretation. It is the perfect word of God from the perfect Holy God
John 14:6 "Jesus said to Him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.'"
John 17:3 Jesus says, "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."
Peter speaking about Jesus "There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12
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