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"All Human Life is Sacred"

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Well, I'll answer the easy question first. According to dictionary.com "sacred" and "holy" are synonyms and have very similar definitions. Yes, I believe that the words are pretty much the same.

Your second question has deep theological roots, but I believe all human life is sacred (or holy). That is why I believe abortion and euthanasia is wrong. Why human life is sacred is a hard question to answer. It has to do with teh dignity of humans I know that much.
 
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Innocent human lives definitely are. The lives of those who commit death penalty offenses, maybe they're not as sacred. They have after all, forfeited their right to life when they took the lives of innocents. How much this affects the sanctity of their lives, I'm not sure.
 
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Scripture teaches us:

Be Holy
2Co 6:11 O Corinthians! We have spoken openly to you, our heart is wide open.
2Co 6:12 You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own affections.
2Co 6:13 Now in return for the same (I speak as to children), you also be open.
2Co 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
 
"I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people."
2Co 6:17 Therefore
 
"Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you."
2Co 6:18 "I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the LORD Almighty."


Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
Eph 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,

1Pe 1:13 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1Pe 1:14 as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance;
1Pe 1:15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
1Pe 1:16 because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."


It seems to me there are a few stipulations as to who and what is holy or sacred. As Christians we are holy because God is holy and life is sacred as we consider all life that pleases God should be sacred.

I'm thinking that life which is devoid of God, has nothing but wickedness in their hearts and minds and purposefully and maliciously set out to destory other lives for selfish reasons simply because it brings them pleasure might not be all that holy or sacred.


Just to be clear...I am by no means saying anyone who does not know the Lord that automatically equates that life is not precious nor valuable nor dear to us nor...especially by God.
 
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Well, I'll answer the easy question first. According to dictionary.com "sacred" and "holy" are synonyms and have very similar definitions. Yes, I believe that the words are pretty much the same.

Your second question has deep theological roots, but I believe all human life is sacred (or holy). That is why I believe abortion and euthanasia is wrong. Why human life is sacred is a hard question to answer. It has to do with teh dignity of humans I know that much.

Hey welcome ~ nice to have your first post answering my thread:thumbsup:

If all human life is sacred then what else applies other than abortion & euthanasia~~does the sacredness maybe get forfeited like twistedsketch example with capital crime, or if in military during wartime?
 
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Scripture teaches us:

Be Holy
2Co 6:11 O Corinthians! We have spoken openly to you, our heart is wide open.
2Co 6:12 You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own affections.
2Co 6:13 Now in return for the same (I speak as to children), you also be open.
2Co 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
 
"I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people."
2Co 6:17 Therefore
 
"Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you."
2Co 6:18 "I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the LORD Almighty."


Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
Eph 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,

1Pe 1:13 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1Pe 1:14 as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance;
1Pe 1:15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
1Pe 1:16 because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."


It seems to me there are a few stipulations as to who and what is holy or sacred. As Christians we are holy because God is holy and life is sacred as we consider all life that pleases God should be sacred.

I'm thinking that life which is devoid of God, has nothing but wickedness in their hearts and minds and purposefully and maliciously set out to destory other lives for selfish reasons simply because it brings them pleasure might not be all that holy or sacred.


Just to be clear...I am by no means saying anyone who does not know the Lord that automatically equates that life is not precious nor valuable nor dear to us nor...especially by God.

..then perhaps the "All human life is sacred" isn't an accurate statement? All life has a value attached, but the value is dependent upon a person's actions?
 
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..then perhaps the "All human life is sacred" isn't an accurate statement? All life has a value attached, but the value is dependent upon a person's actions?

I don't really know MrJim...I mean I know how I personally feel about such things...

Example...Sadam Hussein...what a monster...but when he was executed I couldn't help but feel a bit of remorse for him...I do however feel his crimes against humanity justified the dealth penalty. Was Sadam's life holy and sacred?

To Christians...yes...I believe all human live should be valued and charished and respected...but "sacred and holy"...I just don't really know...I was hoping someone would expound on the Scripture I posted a bit.

My comments were more so thinking out loud and questioning rather than firm statements....:blush:
 
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I don't really know MrJim...I mean I know how I personally feel about such things...

Example...Sadam Hussein...what a monster...but when he was executed I couldn't help but feel a bit of remorse for him...I do however feel his crimes against humanity justified the dealth penalty. Was Sadam's life holy and sacred?

To Christians...yes...I believe all human live should be valued and charished and respected...but "sacred and holy"...I just don't really know...I was hoping someone would expound on the Scripture I posted a bit.

My comments were more so thinking out loud and questioning rather than firm statements....:blush:

We'll see what is posted~be interesting to see what comes up; I've heard the expression for a long time but never really pondered on it until today..it was always in direct reference to abortion, but the "all" thing....
 
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Gen 1:26 –Gen 1:28 KJV
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


Gen 6:6 –Gen 6:13 KJV
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth;
both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.


...just some passages for the pondering...
 
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Mt 18:1 –Mt 18:7 NKJV
At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”
Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them,
and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.
“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!
 
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Jn 3:13 –Jn 3:21 NKJV
No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
 
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Jn 3:36 NKJV
He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”


Rev 20:11 –Rev 20:15 NKJV
Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.
And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
 
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Sacred basically means utmost respect and valued. Human life is sacred which is created by God. Taking a life outside God's permission is murder. Government's capital punishment is the only exception. In Exodus 20:13, God said, "Thou shalt not murder," and I read you Genesis 9:6 which says, "Who so sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of God made He man." In other words, clearly the Scriptures indicates that if you take a life you are going to lose your life.

Regarding abortion, conservatives often view: "Thou shalt not murder a child by abortion." It is not only a murder of the individual, it is an affront to the Creator.
 
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Mt 5:43 –Mt 5:48 NKJV
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
 
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Sacred basically means utmost respect and valued. Human life is sacred which is created by God. Taking a life outside God's permission is murder. Government's capital punishment is the only exception. In Exodus 20:13, God said, "Thou shalt not murder," and I read you Genesis 9:6 which says, "Who so sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of God made He man." In other words, clearly the Scriptures indicates that if you take a life you are going to lose your life.

Regarding abortion, conservatives often view: "Thou shalt not murder a child by abortion." It is not only a murder of the individual, it is an affront to the Creator.

You then wouldn't agree with the "sacred=holy"...holy as in "set apart for God"?

also it would seem too that for most warfare and defense is also an acceptable time to take life.
 
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You then wouldn't agree with the "sacred=holy"...holy as in "set apart for God"?

also it would seem too that for most warfare and defense is also an acceptable time to take life.

To go with " This sanctifying work"? Hagiasmos is from the word from which we get holy, means to be separate, set apart, hallowed, consecrated, holy. And the subjective genitive here seems to indicate that the Spirit produces this sanctification. All beings are sacred, saved or unsaved until the day a person died naturally, or killed by various means including accidents and murders and even capital punishment.

All human beings are God's children until one day when each of us die. Some of us will go into heaven to be with Him and others will go to hell. In this life, the Spirit may come along, makes you holy, which means makes you separate, sets you apart, hallows you, consecrates you to God in the work of salvation.

When a child is aborted basically means that child was a sacred child of God. In this world, we have Christian thinking (saved/forgiven sinner) versus secular thinking (unsaved/sinner). This is
come in the form of the separation in our minds of "sacred vs. secular".
 
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To go with " This sanctifying work"? Hagiasmos is from the word from which we get holy, means to be separate, set apart, hallowed, consecrated, holy. And the subjective genitive here seems to indicate that the Spirit produces this sanctification. All beings are sacred, saved or unsaved until the day a person died naturally, or killed by various means including accidents and murders and even capital punishment.

All human beings are God's children until one day when each of us die. Some of us will go into heaven to be with Him and others will go to hell. In this life, the Spirit may come along, makes you holy, which means makes you separate, sets you apart, hallows you, consecrates you to God in the work of salvation.

When a child is aborted basically means that child was a sacred child of God. In this world, we have Christian thinking (saved/forgiven sinner) versus secular thinking (unsaved/sinner). This is
come in the form of the separation in our minds of "sacred vs. secular".

Does the "sacred child of God" status end at some point before death?
 
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We'll see what is posted~be interesting to see what comes up; I've heard the expression for a long time but never really pondered on it until today..it was always in direct reference to abortion, but the "all" thing....

I'll have to come back and read the rest of the post..I'm pretty blurry eyed at the mo...been working on a project at the puter ALL day...:o

but I did want to mention regarding abortion...that might be a little more "sacred" regarding life IMHO...as God knew us before the foundations and in the womb...and these little lives have absolutely NO choice in how their short little lives are lived...I wish we could remember our experience in the womb...we might not be so quick to abort babies if we did.

Obviously...Jesus *has a special love and compassion for children as well.

They are so trusting and dependant on us for care...and I guess the same could be said for our elderly...when they reach that dependency phase...well...maybe not the trusting part....they have been around the block a few times...;)
 
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Just one more thought...then I really need to get my eyes away from this puter...


...maybe ALL life isn't holy and/or sacred...

...because perhaps what makes someone or something holy and/or sacred is by what is imparted to it...and inturn imparts to others.

Like...we are holy because God makes us holy...He imparts holiness to us when we accept God...because He is holy...and we inturn are to impart that to others...sharing His love, His Gospel and His word...His holiness

The Bible is a book...but not all books are sacred/holy...but God imparted His holiness to His word...which makes it holy and sacred...and that sets it apart from ALL other books...also the Bible imparts God's holiness to others...

...wow...stuff to ponder fer sure...
 
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Just one more thought...then I really need to get my eyes away from this puter...


...maybe ALL life isn't holy and/or sacred...

...because perhaps what makes someone or something holy and/or sacred is by what is imparted to it...and inturn imparts to others.

Like...we are holy because God makes us holy...He imparts holiness to us when we accept God...because He is holy...and we inturn are to impart that to others...sharing His love, His Gospel and His word...His holiness

The Bible is a book...but not all books are sacred/holy...but God imparted His holiness to His word...which makes it holy and sacred...and that sets it apart from ALL other books...also the Bible imparts God's holiness to others...

...wow...stuff to ponder fer sure...

Mulling through my posted passages I would tend to go that way~that perhaps all human life isn't sacred in the sense I'm thinking, especially since the fall...it doesn't mean we don't protect and provide for the weak and innocent and vulnerable though....but then on the other hand the image of God is stamped upon every one of us on this earth~~the EO folks talk about how each of us is sort of an icon (like their sacred paintings), an image of God, and then that presents another set of things to think about..
 
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