The Salem Witch Trials

[AV1611VET]

In your opinion today, looking back, were the Salem Witch Trials in respect to the Bible, or in spite of the Bible?

 

[pgp_protector]

What's this have to do with Physical & Life Sciences ?

 

[plindboe]

In your opinion today, looking back, were the Salem Witch Trials in respect to the Bible, or in spite of the Bible?

Depends on which verses one chooses to cherrypick and which verses one chooses to rationalize away. Since there wasn't a "Both" option, I can't really vote.

Peter

 

[TheBear]

What's this have to do with Physical & Life Sciences ?

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Exodus 22:18 springs to mind.

 

[atomweaver]

In your opinion today, looking back, were the Salem Witch Trials in respect to the Bible, or in spite of the Bible?

For any moral position on a controversial act such as "burning witches", there are portions of the Bible that support the action ("thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"), and portions that condemn the action ("love they neighbor as thyself", various re-statings of the Golden Rule, etc).

So, the answer to your poll is Yes.

 

[mpok1519]

really, this is the most pointless poll I've ever read.

the question doesn't make an inkling of objective sense.

 

[Hespera]

I think the point of it is to supply data for the claim that "If you guys ran the world the way you interpret the bible......etc"

 

[MrGoodBytes]

In respect. Exodus tells us that witches should be killed (and no, AV, it does not specify the type or relative power of said witch), Jesus says that the old law should be followed regardless of what else he told us about casting stones and loving our neighbors. Pretty cut-and-dry, IMHO.

 

[AV1611VET]

In respect. Exodus tells us that witches should be killed (and no, AV, it does not specify the type or relative power of said witch), Jesus says that the old law should be followed regardless of what else he told us about casting stones and loving our neighbors. Pretty cut-and-dry, IMHO.

Is this the same Exodus that says, 'Thou shalt not kill'?

If killing witches is, in you guys' opinions, supposed to be done irrespective of the dispensation we're in, then why, when Paul turned Elymas the sorcerer over to God for God (Who never changes) to handle in Acts 13 --- only blind him?

8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.

 

[atomweaver]

Is this the same Exodus that says, 'Thou shalt not kill'?

If killing witches is, in you guys' opinions, supposed to be done irrespective of the dispensation we're in, then why, when Paul turned Elymas the sorcerer over to God for God (Who never changes) to handle in Acts 13 --- only blind him?

Ooh, OOh!! I know! Because Man is supposed to blindly follow whatever flavor of the week interpretation fundamentalist evangelicals cook up from a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]-eyed glance at their book, whereas God always gets a free pass to do whatever he chooses to, regardless of the bald-faced hypocrisy that results...?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ooh, OOh!! I know! Because Man is supposed to blindly follow whatever flavor of the week interpretation fundamentalist evangelicals cook up from a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]-eyed glance at their book, whereas God always gets a free pass to do whatever he chooses to, regardless of the bald-faced hypocrisy that results...?

I'd say that about sums it up --- from you guys' perspective.

 

[atomweaver]

I'd say that about sums it up ---

Sorry. I immediately stop reading anytime someone puts three hyphens in a row...

 

[corvus_corax]

OFF TOPIC thread is off topic.




Why respond to an off topic/off forum thread?

Criminey, some people will respond to ANYTHING that AV posts, even if it's COMPLETELY INCORRECT for the forum at hand.

I swear sometimes that AV is a weird kind of cult of personality on this sub forum, and many people (even atheists and agnostics) are guilty of being members.

Reps to you AV, you have your diligent detractors, no matter what you say in any forum, even if what you say is completely off topic or off forum.

 

[corvus_corax]

Since you put your poll/question in the WRONG forum...QV 1
If you dare tread in that forum
ETA- I mean, really, you seem to be SO brave in C&E, you should be able to 'pwn' in E&M, right?

 

[Greatcloud]

In spite of the Bible, no question about it. Several christians died trying to stop the slaughter of "justice" carried out. Drowning is not a nice way to go, its not waterboarding you know. I understand christians that died were killed by soldiers standing guard. Good people gave testimony at the trials. Peace everlasting.​

 

[AV1611VET]

Since you put your poll/question in the WRONG forum...QV 1

I did?

A witch wouldn't violate the physical sciences?

 

[Greatcloud]

Hey AV1611VET what do you think of what I wrote the post above.

 

[AV1611VET]

Hey AV1611VET what do you think of what I wrote the post above.

In spite of the Bible, no question about it. Several christians died trying to stop the slaughter of "justice" carried out. Drowning is not a nice way to go, its not waterboarding you know. I understand christians that died were killed by soldiers standing guard. Good people gave testimony at the trials. Peace everlasting.

Well, to be truthful, I have never heard that before --- but if I did, I would certainly believe it.

I'm sure [real] Christians would have been against the trials, and moreso the executions; but like I said before, I wasn't there.

The Witch Trials sound like mob violence to me.

 

[Greatcloud]

Hey AV add one more friend to your list and yes it really happened like that. Don't be dicouraged by there ranting shallow remarks of no merit.

Keep preaching it.