Have any of the creationists here done the following?

[gaara4158]

Well, I guess that leaves me out then, doesn't it?

I don't see how. You admit complete ignorance to the theory of evolution, yet you still say it can "take a hike" because it conflicts with your interpretation of your favorite version of the Bible. I think that falls neatly into the category of speaking with authority and shunning correction, don't you?

And a few other versions as well --- right?

Some more than others. Irrelevant.

I'm an atheist, according to LIE, if I am ignorant of the basics of evolution, while at the same time trying to debunk it.

LIE, KJV, Tomato, Tomahto.
You're a fool if you try to say anything about something you don't understand. This is a basic fact of life.

 

[ranmaonehalf]

Right-O! Didnt ask you of course. You going to answer the question that I DID ask you?

"cobra" takes fewer words btw than the latin. Off the top of your head, do you know the latin name for any other snake?

Hespera, remember ignore avet, he is a poe. same with Juvi.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

I would argue and say evolution has no evidence, no data. It may prove mutation which is apparent today, but not evolution which is soooooo sloooooow that we just can't pick it up (isn't that the argument?).

Do us all a favor and take a college level course in evolution. Then come back and tell us there's no evidence.

You just wish there were no evidence. Ignoring it won't make it go away.

 

[AV1611VET]

You admit complete ignorance to the theory of evolution, yet you still say it can "take a hike" because it conflicts with your interpretation of your favorite version of the Bible.

I have never said that at all.

In fact, I'm on record as saying just the opposite: 48.

 

[gaara4158]

I have never said that at all.

In fact, I'm on record as saying just the opposite: 48.

Ok, your only version. The point is it's all your beliefs. You use your beliefs to try to debunk facts that you don't even know about. Again, that fits very well into the category of speaking with authority and shunning correction, don't you think?

 

[rosenherman]

Let me make an honest suggestion to those of you who think transitional fossils don't exist.

Read an evolution textbook. Read Jerry Coyne's book, Why Evolution is True. Read Evolution for Everyone.

READ. READ. READ!!!! and stop expecting people to spood feed you simplistic answers to a complex subject.

We have read, read, read and come to different conclusions than you hold. Deal with it. Intelligent and educated people who are as convinced that we are right as you are convinced that we are wrong.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

We have read, read, read and come to different conclusions than you hold. Deal with it. Intelligent and educated people who are as convinced that we are right as you are convinced that we are wrong.

Really? Just who, exactly, are these "intelligent and educated people" you refer to? Just a little to vague.

And what was the last non-creo ToE book you read?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok, your only version. The point is it's all your beliefs. You use your beliefs to try to debunk facts that you don't even know about. Again, that fits very well into the category of speaking with authority and shunning correction, don't you think?

I use the Bible, which speaks out against evolution rather strongly, to debunk evolution.

Furthermore, when I have a coin with the letter "D" on it, I know it wasn't minted in San Francisco.

 

[gaara4158]

We have read, read, read and come to different conclusions than you hold. Deal with it. Intelligent and educated people who are as convinced that we are right as you are convinced that we are wrong.

What evolution textbooks have you read?
See, you can't tell the dentist you've been flossing when you haven't. At least not a good dentist. In the same way, it's very easy to tell if someone hasn't read about evolution by the types of claims they make.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

I use the Bible, which speaks out against evolution rather strongly, to debunk evolution.

Furthermore, when I have a coin with the letter "D" on it, I know it wasn't minted in San Francisco.

And there's the fatal flaw in your logic.

The Bible does not and cannot speak out against evolution. Evolution wasn't even around as a theory until 1859.

It is people (not the book itself) who speak out against it because they mistakenly believe that evolution threatens God. Exactly how does anyting physical (non-eternal) threaten an eternal, all powerful being?

Answer: It doesn't.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

I use the Bible, which speaks out against evolution rather strongly, to debunk evolution.

Furthermore, when I have a coin with the letter "D" on it, I know it wasn't minted in San Francisco.

Which verses "speaks out against evolution rather strongly, to debunk evolution"?

 

[AV1611VET]

What evolution textbooks have you read?
See, you can't tell the dentist you've been flossing when you haven't. At least not a good dentist. In the same way, it's very easy to tell if someone hasn't read about evolution by the types of claims they make.

The Necronomicon is evil, and I've never read it.

Don't even know - (or care to know) - what it looks like.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

Yeah, conjuring spirits= evolution.

Sure it does.

FAIL.

 

[gaara4158]

I use the Bible, which speaks out against evolution rather strongly, to debunk evolution.

Furthermore, when I have a coin with the letter "D" on it, I know it wasn't minted in San Francisco.

You use your interpretation of the Bible. You don't seem to acknowledge that it can be interpreted in more than one way, and yours is just one, based on nothing but your belief.
Furthermore, the Bible doesn't say anything about evolution. You've said so many times that it's foolish to try to use the physical to debunk the physical; Well, I say it's foolish to use the spiritual to debunk the physical.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evolution wasn't even around as a theory until 1859.

But God uses His own terminology to explain things.

Of course He's not going to use the word "evolution" --- He doesn't need to --- there are other ways to express it.

 

[rosenherman]

This seems to be a very common misconception. Evolution never says, and never has said, that any animal should turn into something else. In fact, if we ever did see an animal suddenly become another type of animal, it would be evidence for something else entirely: creation. A turtle giving birth to a frog would overnight turn evolution inside out and wipe it off the table; looking for that kind of thing in order to prove evolution is doing it backwards.

You see, evolution predicts slow, gradual change. Creation predicts the sudden appearance of new animals. So really, the very reason that you believe in creation is in fact disproving that same creation. The central issue is that you don't truly understand what evolution teaches.

No, I poorly worded my post. I expected that it was understood that evolution takes place over centuries. I never meant that sudden changes would be made. That is ludicrous.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

But God uses His own terminology to explain things.

Of course He's not going to use the word "evolution" --- there are other ways to express it.

Such as?

 

[Hespera]

No, but anyone who tries to speak with authority on something they know nothing about is a fool.
Yes, I know the Bible says that fools don't believe in God and are evil and all that. The KJV is goofy like that.

So I guess, according to the Bible, you're an atheist. Still think it's infallible?

He thinks its infallible to the extent that if it says 10 cubits, then it is ten cubits, measured with elbow, finger and string, accurate to billions of decimal places. 10.000000000000000000000000000000000000000

 

[loveiseverywhere]

I don't understand why any of us even respond to AVET.

Myself included.

 

[AV1611VET]

Which verses "speaks out against evolution rather strongly, to debunk evolution"?

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