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Missing link found by Norwegian scientist

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Congratulations AV; You have hereby been nominated for the CARTOON PHYSICIST OF THE MILLENNIUM award!
I say well done!
Thank you, my friend --- ^_^
I speak in jest AV so don't go for the REPORT button! I assume you have a sense of humour?
Oh, I think I can take a ribbing every once in awhile --- ;)
 
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Fossil find provides 'missing link' in human evolution - Times Online



True, I think.

I bet we'll have a lot of creationists go ballistic about it though. *sigh*
From your link

"a small lemur-like creature...Its anatomical features suggest that it lies close to the origin of the human branch and that the creature, or something like it, could be an ancient ancestor of humans.
..The scientific name honours Charles Darwin....she lacks two key characteristics of modern lemurs: a grooming or “toilet claw” on the second digit of her foot, and a fused row of teeth on the lower jaw known as a toothcomb. The absence of these traits is typical of haplorrhines such as human beings. "

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So, a lemur with no toilet claw, in half, was found one day.They fit the thing together, and put it on a table. A missing toe, the missing link, what more could any ask? Maybe the critter evolved in a locality where a new easy way to go to the toilet was all around? And maybe it needed on less toe. Hardly relates the silly thing to Adam. This shows the absurd standards that so called science uses to define what is a man! Kids..don't let them degrade you with this nonsense.
 
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I'll buy microevolution, but I won't buy macroevolution.

That's the thing about "evolution" in general --- it has two sides to it.

As long as it stays on one side and benefits mankind, I'm fine with it; but when it oversteps its bounds, and gets into contradicting the Bible anywhere, it can take a hike.

Evolution cannot benefit mankind and contradict the Bible at the same time.

I'd say it's benefiting mankind hugely by encouraging people to update their outdated interpretations.

One could say it's now "adapt or die", in that regard.
 
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oh Dad, you know we don't let people get degraded from armchair biologists like yourself!

Its connected to "adam" by a few millions years; of course it is inhuman looking, but a skeleton of this kind has not been found, but, is proof that humans used to be racooon-like arborial rats.

which isn't hard to understand, grasp, or accept.
 
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the anti-evolutionists would have been better off in thier pro-creationism campaign proponents found some way to teach myth as act, and fact as myth; Also, locking up all the scientists, biologists and anthroologists, and punishing them for heresey would have helped too.
 
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the anti-evolutionists would have been better off in thier pro-creationism campaign proponents found some way to teach myth as act, and fact as myth; Also, locking up all the scientists, biologists and anthroologists, and punishing them for heresey would have helped too.

Heh.
 
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the anti-evolutionists would have been better off in thier pro-creationism campaign proponents found some way to teach myth as act, and fact as myth; Also, locking up all the scientists, biologists and anthroologists, and punishing them for heresey would have helped too.
Teachers get fired, and people arrested for trying to teach other things to kids than state religions, falsely called science. You may not ride the coattails of real knowledge and science, when lumping in your fables. Sorry.

By the way, the charge ought to be simple fraud, racketeering, and misrepresentaion, for the so called science huxsters. Except, for now, the inmates are running the assylum. That will be fixed one day, big time.
 
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MY fables?! lol lol

ID is real? but, evolution is not?

lol

lol

lol

anyone else hearing this? Oh man....I just think I popped a blood vessal....

Keep hunting for that harvard degree at the bottom of the cheerio box...


Got it on ig but it musta been a good one. The bit about calling science 'fable" from the perspective of the Compendium of Fables would be embarrassing for anyone sophisticated enough to know what "projecting" is.
 
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it just REALLY irritates me that some people out there get to vote AND they get to tell kids these lies too...

Have a little sympathy too tho. They were doubtless raised that way, back when their innocent child minds didnt know any better. They internalized it, and now they are passing it on to the next generation......its sad for the adults, sad for the kids. They think they are doing the right thing.
 
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Oh, and The Bear if you don't want to be part of the conversation, you can just bow out. your QFT comment doesn't add anything to the conversation. If you want to say something useful, I'll listen, otherwise.....

Gotta love it. :D


This is my 10th post in this thread. Try to control your outbursts and tantrums when you come across people who disagree with your views. Keep emotional reactions out of it.
 
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I think one of the, many, things that Honkytntkmn has misunderstood about evolution is rarity of fossilisation of large animals in certain environments.

Take the most famous fossilised animal in the world - T. rex - every natural history museum you go into has one glowering down at you. They were top predators so they were never massivly numerous, probably a bit like human ancestors. There must be thousands of them right?

Wrong.

There are about 30 T. rex skeletons in existence at the moment despite looking for them for over a 100 years with massive monetary gain for the finders and the fact that they are found in the US.

But they are all complete skeletons aren't they?

No, none of them are complete.

But they all have those big scary skulls don't they?

No. Only 3 skulls have been found.

In comparison we have many more fossils of human intermediary species but only becase we have searched for them so assiduously. We have dug up half of North East Africa looking for specimens. These human ancestors lived in an environment much less prone to fossilise animals than the Cretaceous of North America, that was a land of shallow seas, muddy lagoons and wide braided river valleys, all reasonable environments for fossilising large animals.

Human ancestors lived on the Savannah. If you put a human body out on the african savannah today I doubt you will find so much as a kneecap left by the next day, fossilisation in such an environment is extremely rare.

Honkytnkmn doesn't "believe" in evolution because he doesn't want to, it has nothing to do with a lack of evidence or a lack of fossils, it has everything to do with a strongly held pre-existing religious conviction that can't fit with modern science in this case.

If we found a thousand beautiful fossils that demonstrated the complete pathway of evolution from a chimp common ancestor to Homo sapiens sapiens in the next year he'd just move on to something else that would stop him "believing" in evolution.

QFT :)
 
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even still, if you found aLL the fossis, and taxonomzed ALL those animals, an even brought them back to life through genetic engineering, AND showed the creationists a youtubevideo that lasts for trillions of years, theyd STILL think that the earth is 6000 years old, and all of humanity came from two and only two people, and they didnt even have last names.

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y'know whats worse? I knew a kid who'd get punished and reprimanded by his family for not believing the piles and loads their fundamnetalist parents tried to inundate and program him with; he basically got disowned by his father for not buying into the myth of creationism.

THAT irks me.....
 
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even still, if you found aLL the fossis, and taxonomzed ALL those animals, an even brought them back to life through genetic engineering, AND showed the creationists a youtubevideo that lasts for trillions of years, theyd STILL think that the earth is 6000 years old...
You just hang out with YECs, do you, mpok?
 
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Stephen Colbert (who you can see on the internet) had the clip of the scientist point out that he didn't believe that this fossil was our direct ancestor but more like a 'super great' (mine) aunt. Yes, Stephen Colbert, that's Stephen Colbert on the internet.

He is playing the part of 'a' AV1611VET position. Disclaimer: I am sure the resemblance is incidental, on Stephen Colbert on the internet.
 
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even still, if you found aLL the fossis, and taxonomzed ALL those animals, an even brought them back to life through genetic engineering, AND showed the creationists a youtubevideo that lasts for trillions of years, theyd STILL think that the earth is 6000 years old, and all of humanity came from two and only two people, and they didnt even have last names.
That's because they believe David Copperfield actually makes things disappear!:wave:
 
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even still, if you found aLL the fossis, and taxonomzed ALL those animals, an even brought them back to life through genetic engineering, AND showed the creationists a youtubevideo that lasts for trillions of years, theyd STILL think that the earth is 6000 years old, and all of humanity came from two and only two people, and they didnt even have last names.

Actually, It believe it would only have to be 4 billion years long, give or take a billion. ;)

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y'know whats worse? I knew a kid who'd get punished and reprimanded by his family for not believing the piles and loads their fundamnetalist parents tried to inundate and program him with; he basically got disowned by his father for not buying into the myth of creationism.

THAT irks me.....

Yep that's a good example of all Christians. We all beat our kids for not believing. I'm sure every single evolutionist and or Athiest is a perfect human.
 
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