YEC and Fossil Fuels

[MoonLancer]

QV please --- 1.

I will take your 1, and raise you a 1

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[AV1611VET]

no, it is NOT good to intentionally mislead and misinorm people with psycho-babble.
infact, it is inherantly WRONG to do so.

I like psychobabble though --- it makes me all bubbly inside ---

 

[mpok1519]

It is WRONG to misinform people with false information.

You may get a warm feeling from perpetuating wrong, but not many people do.

infact, intentionally misleading people with information they know to be false is a sign of sociopathism and pathological lying.

 

[AV1611VET]

Good thing AV is the only person who still believes in yec.

I'm YEC, am I?

 

[mpok1519]

You dont believe in yec?

hmmm....more intentional misinformation?

 

[MoonLancer]

I'm YEC, am I?

well since you cannot distill embedded age from embedded history (see fossils), i would say your a YEC trying to reconcile facts with theology and coming up with your own variation (or possibly your minister)

Although it really doesn't matter, the pink unicorn created the universe last Thursday and embedded everything necessary to make it seem old.

 

[AV1611VET]

You dont believe in yec?

hmmm....more intentional misinformation?

Ya --- even though it's right there in my profile --- even though for the past three years I've been saying I'm not a YEC --- and even though I make it clear that I believe the earth is 4.57 billion years old --- you mistake me for a YEC, and it's because I'm the one intentionally misinforming you.

(And I'm the troll?)

 

[Ectezus]

Ya --- even though it's right there in my profile --- even though for the past three years I've been saying I'm not a YEC --- and even though I make it clear that I believe the earth is 4.57 billion years old --- you mistake me for a YEC, and it's because I'm the one intentionally misinforming you.

(And I'm the troll?)

I guess it's just hard for people to understand how you can believe in 99% of the nonsense that you preach as certainties while actually having a correct understanding of science on one part.

It would be much easier for all of us if you were just 100% bovine excrement all the way.

- Ectezus

 

[AV1611VET]

It would be much easier for all of us if you were just 100% bovine excrement all the way.

I'm sure it would --- then you guys could relate, eh?

 

[Split Rock]

I'm YEC, am I?

owwww..... I know, I know!

You're an "EAC."

"Embedded Age Creationist."

(not to be confused with the Evil Atheist Conspiracy)

 

[BananaSlug]

owwww..... I know, I know!

You're an "EAC."

"Embedded Age Creationist."

(not to be confused with the Evil Atheist Conspiracy)

Too bad that if you believe the earth was created in 4004B.C. you are a YEC no matter how much age was "embedded" in the earth.

 

[corvus_corax]

Just about everything he has to say

the Fall, the speed of Light changed, science is stoopid, embedded age, dabiblesayssoendofstory)

Need this be pointed out again from the C&E Guidelines?

This forum is for debating the scientific value of different theories, hypotheses, and beliefs for the creation of the universe and life.

There you go
Those that refuse to recognize (much less discuss according to) the C&E guidelines are worth exactly nothing in debate.
What to do, what to do?

The ignore feature is there for a reason.

Yes, granted, if people like AV, dad, Robert and others were systematically Ignored, this forum would become quite calm.
Upholding the forum guidelines is NOT a bad thing.
Ignoring those who blatantly defacate on the guidelines is not a bad thing either.

 

[mpok1519]

Ya --- even though it's right there in my profile --- even though for the past three years I've been saying I'm not a YEC --- and even though I make it clear that I believe the earth is 4.57 billion years old --- you mistake me for a YEC, and it's because I'm the one intentionally misinforming you.

(And I'm the troll?)

No, I'm the troll. I make it my job to troll. Especially when it comes to those who try to misinform people in order to "deprogram" them...Trolling is heroic in this case.

 

[AV1611VET]

Too bad that if you believe the earth was created in 4004B.C. you are a YEC no matter how much age was "embedded" in the earth.

Not hardly --- you can be Omphalos, Gap Theorist, Last Thursdayist, or Embedded Age.

 

[AV1611VET]

Need this be pointed out again from the C&E Guidelines?

This forum is for debating the scientific value of different theories, hypotheses, and beliefs for the creation of the universe and life.

There you go
Those that refuse to recognize (much less discuss according to) the C&E guidelines are worth exactly nothing in debate.
What to do, what to do?

The Creation does have a recognizable scientific value --- zero.

As this challenge demonstrates: 1.

And as Solomon pointed out, evolution has the same value --- zero.

 

[mpok1519]

0 = valueLESS. There is NO scientific value in creationism. Zero is the absence of value.

Creationism = valueless

Creationism offers NOTHING.

They actually proved that the dover board of education, when they eliminated evolution from their scientific cirricula in exchange for an intellegent design cirricula, that the decision was intimately motivated by religious belief, which is immoral but also illegal.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is NO scientific value in creationism.

And I've only been saying that for how long now?

 

[mpok1519]

So you dont believe in creationism.

Or, you don't believe in truth.

One of the two.


No value in creationism = creationism IS A LIE.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is NO scientific value in creationism.

And I've only been saying that for how long now?

No value in creationism = creationism IS A LIE.

Which is it: "no value" or "no scientific value"?

Make up my mind.

 

[mpok1519]

Both.