6 point proof for the post trib rapture

[Hismessenger]

Terral

Just as i figured, nothing but blah blah blah and no scripture to back up your mystery rapture.

Since you have no answer and say that I have given you nothing , then answer these scripture.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Here in three verses are the truth of what I have said. There is no mystery rapture for these taken out of the tribulation are the first ones taken. The last shall be first and the first shall be last.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other

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The true rapture after the tribulation of those days.

Scripture, not my words is what I have given you. But I know since you can't answer the scripture you will only attack what I have said.
Attack my words all you want, but you have no answer for the scripture and this shows who you are in Christ.

hismessenger

 

[Terral]

Hi Hismessenger:

Just as i figured, nothing but blah blah blah and no scripture to back up your mystery rapture.

Paul is describing the mystery rapture of the mystery “His Body” Church (Col. 1:24) in 1Corinthians 15:51-53 and 1Thessalonians 4:13-17, which has already been presented to you far too many times.

Since you have no answer and say that I have given you nothing , then answer these scripture (Rev. 20:4-6).

What did Hismessenger ‘quote >>’ from my work to show errant using Scripture this time? 2Tim 2:15? Oh yeah, nothing again. :0) For the umpteenth time: Revelation 20 is AN OVERVIEW of the entire 1000 Year Day of the Lord (diagram = in blue) from the devil’s perspective where he is chained to ‘start’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord back in Revelation 1:10 ‘and’ released when the 1000 Years (Rev. 1-3 = diagram) is over that is retold from many perspectives in Revelation 4-20. The ‘thrones’ from Revelation 20:4 are the same ‘thrones’ from Luke 22:30 where Peter, John, James, the Samarians of Acts 8, Cornelius and his family from Acts 10 and the disciples of Acts 19:1-6 are all JUDGING ISRAEL throughout the upcoming 1000 Year Day of the Lord. The disciples from Peter’s ‘early rains’ (James 5:7) kingdom ‘BRIDE’ (Church #1) are raised up WITH US (Body of Christ = Church #2) at the ‘First Resurrection’ that STARTS the 1000 Year Day of the Lord in the very near future when Satan and the members of his evil body are CHAINED.

The “Second Resurrection” (diagram again = far right) comes only AFTER the 1000 Years IS OVER, as described in Revelation 20:11-15 and AFTER the devil (Rev. 20:10) and his two witnesses of blood (Beast) and water (False Prophet) are in the lake of fire. Rev. 19:20. These are ‘priests’ (Royal Priesthood from 1Peter 2:9 to fulfill Exodus 19:5-6) of God and Christ called out from Israel and the nations some 2000 Years ago from the ministries of John the Baptist (Father), Christ (Son) and the Twelve (Holy Spirit = diagram in golden yellow, red and blue) starting at Pentecost having NOTHING to do with the mystery ‘Body of Christ’ (Church #2) at all. The members of “Christ’s BODY” (1Cor 12:27 = believers in Gospel #2) have been IN the Lamb of Revelation since the trumpet sounded off behind John in Revelation 1:10, which is a point apparently far above Hismessenger’s ability to understand. :0)

Here in three verses are the truth of what I have said. There is no mystery rapture for these taken out of the tribulation are the first ones taken. The last shall be first and the first shall be last.

And here we are looking at evidence of someone making the same pathetic mistake of your church fathers, when Paul’s ‘mystery’ (1Cor. 15:51) Rapture (1Thes. 4:17) took place some 1000 Years EARLIER with the ‘trumpet’ (1Cor. 15:52, 1Thes. 4:16) sounding off ‘behind’ John in Revelation 1:10. John is describing the fulfillment of OT (from Zechariah, Ezekiel, Daniel,etc.) and NT (Matt. 24) PROPHECY concerning Israel of the flesh and Peter’s Prophetic Kingdom BRIDE (Church #1) about how the 1000 Year Day of the Lord WILL END. However (this is where Hismessenger misses the boat), Paul is describing the ‘revelation of THE MYSTERY’ (Rom. 16:25) about how the same 1000 Year Day of the Lord BEGINS some 1000 years EARLIER.

Christ’s saying that the 'last shall be first and the first shall be last' (Matt. 19:30, 20:16, etc.) shall be fulfilled in many different ways, but the elementary teaching says that Peter, John and James (Matt. 10:2+) are the ‘first’ that shall ultimately be the ‘last’ disciples from the Prophetic Kingdom “Bride” to join us IN the heavenly places that are IN Christ Jesus where ‘we’ (Church #2) are seated EVEN NOW (Eph. 2:6). These three verses (Rev. 20:4-6) represent the stumbling block that claims the most victims among professing Bible Prophecy Experts ranking up there with the six verses from 2Thessalonians 2:1-6 (and 1Tim. 3:16) as the least understood verses in the entire Bible. Since you do NOT know the differences between the “Gospel of the Kingdom” (Gospel #1) and Paul’s “Word of the Cross” (#2) gospel, NOR the differences between Peter’s Kingdom “Bride” (Church #1) and our mystery “Body of Christ” (#2), nor the four baptisms (link), then Hismessenger mixes the ‘water’ (13 NT Kingdom Books: diagram* = in blue) and ‘blood’ (13 Pauline Epistles = in red*) together ’and’ cannot see the difference between the END of this current 2000 Year Mystery Time (with our mystery rapture) AND the “END of the Age” that Christ (Matt. 24) and Daniel (Dan. 12:11-13) and Zechariah (Zech. 14) John (Revelation) and Peter (2Peter 3:8-12) are all describing.

The true rapture after the tribulation of those days.

No. Our ‘mystery’ Rapture took place way back in Revelation 1:10 to ‘start’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, while the ‘Great Tribulation’ (Matt. 24:21 = Rev. 7:14-16) takes place some 1000 years LATER very near the END of the Age. Again, the Pre, Midweek and Post-Tribulation Rapture explanations are ALL OFF by the same 1000 Years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord and I am repeating myself far too many times to blind men without the ability to even see what the heck I am talking about. :0)

Scripture, not my words is what I have given you. But I know since you can't answer the scripture you will only attack what I have said.

We simply have ‘different interpretations’ of the same verses, which is the reason we have over 2000 different ‘denominations’ of professing Christians in the USA alone. So, Hismessenger can quote from Revelation 20! :0) Big deal . . .

Attack my words all you want, but you have no answer for the scripture and this shows who you are in Christ.

Blah, blah, blah!!! . . . :0)

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

 

[Hismessenger]

Terral,

Here are your errors.

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

No rapture mentioned here. But I hear a speculation from some mans mouth.

1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Cr 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The future rapture spoken of Here, but no mystery rapture taking place at that time. And this scripture says at the last trump, not the first as you suppose. Pure unadulterated speculation on yours and many other Charismatic believers for that is what you are by your words on these pages. A speculator refusing to accept the written word for some half baked doctrine of a pre-trib rapture. If it happened before then how come the word says IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS. NOT BEFORE THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS. IF you can explain that one part ,Then please do so of else just shut up with your dribble.

I gave you scripture which states the truth irrefutably but yet you come with some secret rapture and can't show one definitive scripture to say what you are professing to be in the word. Not One, only theory and it doesn't wash.

And lastly I am not of any denomination but Christ. I attend a baptist church because that is where God has me for now but I tell them the same things I have said to you and just like you, they have no understanding yet because they have no light. Only mans knowledge and not the wisdom of God.

So show us Just one scripture that says there is a rapture before the tribulation in no uncertain terms.

You Can't. Truth all, lies 0

hismessenger

 

[Terral]

Hi Hismessenger:

Terral,

Here are your errors.

This is a joke. Right? :0) What did Hismessenger “quote >> FROM MY WORK” to prove WRONG using Scripture? 2Tim. 2:15? The answer is “NOTHING” as usual. Now you are quoting Revelation 1:10 to say:

No rapture mentioned here. But I hear a speculation from some mans mouth.

Where is Hismessenger’s ‘rightly divided’ (2Tim. 2:15) commentary explaining what John is talking about in Revelation 1:10 and this opening passage? :0) Of course our MYSTERY (1Cor. 15:51) RAPTURE (1Thes. 4:17) is not literally ‘seen’ or ‘understood’ by JOHN in this “PROPHETIC BOOK,” because John is describing the “fulfillment of PROPHECY” ‘and’ our mystery translation to immortality took place BEHIND HIM with the elements that ‘we’ can recognize and connect to Paul’s descriptions of ‘our’ mystery gathering to the Lord. Scripture says,

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day [Day of the Lord], and I heard BEHIND ME a loud voice [voice of the archangel = 1Thes. 4:16] like the sound of a trumpet [1Cor. 15:52, 1Thes. 4:16], saying, "Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea." Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands [the seven angels of the seven churches]; and in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like a son of man [One who is immortal = man + angel], clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and girded across His chest with a golden sash. His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire.” Revelation 1:10-14.

If you read down to verse 19, then you will see that John is describing our mystery “Body of Christ” that was just gathered with the sound of ‘our’ mystery trumpet (1Cor. 15:52) that ‘started’ the 1000 Year “LORD”S DAY” (Day of the Lord) that John is standing inside IN THE SPIRIT. The ‘voice’ John heard BEHIND HIM is the ‘voice of the archangel’ from 1Thessalonians 4:16 where Christ descended to receive ‘us’ (Church #2) to rejoin the ‘two groups’ contained within the ‘living’ (that’s us on the earth today) and the ‘dead’ represented by the believers in ‘our gospel’ (Gospel #2) spanning the past 2000 years. There is no Rapture/Gathering FOR JOHN, because he is a member of Peter’s Prophetic Kingdom “BRIDE” (Church #1) specifically chosen to see the events pertaining to the ‘times and epochs’ (Acts 1:6-7, 1Thes. 5:1-2) where Israel’s kingdom is restored and the seven ‘late rains’ (James 5:7) Kingdom ‘Bride’ Church Periods (diagram = in blue) are described in the first three chapters of Revelation.

While John is in the “Spirit” to begin this account (Rev. 1:10), he is called up to heaven in Revelation 4:1 to begin retelling the same ‘END of the Age’ events from many different perspectives over and over and over again, which tells us that the events of Revelation 1-3 are taking place ON THIS EARTH. The momentous event that took place ‘behind John’ is our gathering to the Lord (1Thes. 4:16-17) that Paul ties directly to the MYSTERY in 1Corinthians 15:51, saying,

“Behold, I tell you a mystery; ‘we’ [Body of Christ = Church #2] will not all sleep, but ‘we’ will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet [Rev. 1:10 = behind John]; for the trumpet will sound [1Thes. 4:16], and the dead will be raised imperishable, and ‘we’ will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.” 1Corinthians 15:51-53.

If anyone here really wants to begin interpreting ‘these things’ according to the ‘wisdom given him’ (2Peter 3:14-16) correctly, then you MUST first wake up to realize that Paul is describing a ‘MYSTERY’ event that falls under “The MYSTERY” (Eph. 3:3) umbrella that only certain and very specific individuals are allowed to see. Most of you have some idea of what Paul is talking about in describing a ‘mystery’ event, but the vast majority of you are thinking IN ENGLISH and not in GREEK. A grasp of Vine’s definition of ‘mysterion’ will begin giving you clues as to WHY John ‘and’ Hismessenger here cannot even begin to see our ‘mystery’ Rapture “and” why only some among you will be chosen to “comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth” (Eph. 3:18):

Vine’s Expository Dictionary of NT Words:

mysterion primarily that which is known to the mustes, "the initiated" (from mueo, "to initiate into the mysteries;" cp. Php_4:12, mueomai, "I have learned the secret," RV). In the NT it denotes, NOT the mysterious (as with the English word), but that which, being OUTSIDE the range of unassisted natural apprehension, can be made known ONLY by Divine Revelation, and is made known in a manner and at A TIME appointed BY GOD, and to those ONLY who are ‘illumined’ by HIS SPIRIT. In the ordinary sense a "mystery" implies knowledge withheld; its Scriptural significance is truth REVEALED. Hence the terms especially associated with the subject are "made known," "manifested," "revealed," "preached," "understand," "dispensation." The definition given above may be best illustrated by the following passage: "the MYSTERY which hath been HID from ALL AGES and GENERATIONS: but NOW hath it been MANIFESTED to His saints" (Col_1:26, RV). "It is used of . . .”

The very first thing to realize about this Greek term (mysterion = BLB) is that this word does NOT appear in any Kingdom Book bearing the name of Hebrews, Peter, John, James or Jude even once. This key term is used by the Apostle Paul twenty times with half of those uses appearing in the two Epistles to the Ephesians (6) and the Colossians (4) in Prison Epistles written only after the close of Acts (61 AD). Paul is describing ‘mystery’ events related to OUR MYSTERY CHURCH (Eph. 5:32 = Church #2) that have NOTHING whatsoever to do with Peter’s Prophetic Kingdom BRIDE (John 3:29 = Church #1) where Christ’s Kingdom Disciples (Peter, John and James) are describing the fulfillment of OT ‘and’ NT PROPHECY pertaining to Israel of the flesh ‘and’ the new ‘dispensation’ called to God via the “Gospel of the Kingdom” (Gospel #1). Looking at the term “mysterion” from Vine’s definition, we see that Paul’s “The Mystery” passages are describing “NOT the mysterious” (as with the English word), but that which is ‘OUTSIDE the range of unassisted natural apprehension’ that can be made known ‘ONLY by Divine Revelation’ in a ‘MANNER and A TIME appointed BY GOD’ HIMSELF.

All that anyone has in the way of ‘knowledge and wisdom’ concerning these “MYSTERY” events is ‘seeds’ that MUST be ‘watered’ and God Himself MUST CAUSE THE GROWTH. 1Cor. 3:6-7. The very minimum requirement is that you are “ILLUMINED by HIS SPIRIT,” so this “Knowledge withheld” can then be “made known” or “manifested” or “revealed” and “understood” throughout the three-step PROCESS of seeding, watering the shoots ‘and’ then harvesting the fruit (wisdom = diagram) containing the next generation of ‘seeds.’ Hismessenger cannot make the connections between Paul’s descriptions of this ‘mystery’ Rapture event taking place ‘behind’ John in Revelation 1:10, because God Himself has yet to tap him on the shoulder to initiate the “TIME appointed BY GOD.” There was a ‘time’ for Paul to begin writing about these ‘mystery’ events (after the close of Acts) ‘and’ there is an appointed time for each member of Christ’s Body to begin seeing what Peter calls “these things” that are according to the “wisdom given him,” but the PROBLEM is that we are living very near the END of this current 2000 Year Mystery Time where the ‘stones of fire’ are very DULL OF HEARING and only a select ‘few’ are allowed to even see these ‘mystery’ events from God’s Living and Active Word.

Even the members of Christ’s Body are mixing Kingdom ‘and’ Grace Doctrine together and the ‘Two Veils’ (diagram) of God’s Living Word are BEING BROKEN that will see ‘rewards’ (1Cor. 3:12-15) of these members handed over to others at the coming Judgment (2Cor. 5:10) where we are judged for OUR WORKS on this earth. Therefore, if the whole wide world wants to follow after Hismessenger, who cannot see the mystery forest for all the prophecy trees, then by golly go right ahead and be sure to have fun with it. Do you believe in the hereafter? Great! Because the precious stones and gold in your crown and heavenly ephod (pic) is what I am here after! :0) Do not whine like babies in the ages to come when every time we pass each other your rewards are looking back at you from my crown, staff, ephod and every golden ring on all my fingers requiring you to WORK and WORK and WORK to receive back what God has handed me at our Judgment through our Lord Jesus Christ; because that is just the way this cookie crumbles . . . :0)

[quotes 1Cor. 15:51-52]The future rapture spoken of Here, but no mystery rapture taking place at that time. And this scripture says at the last trump, not the first as you suppose.

In other words, Hismessenger is in DENIAL over what he cannot even see. :0) For the benefit of a select few of these readers: Paul’s reference to the ‘last trump’ is the one sounding off ‘behind’ John that ENDS this current 2000 Year Mystery Time (shown in red*) of ‘restoration’ referred to back in Acts 3:21 (BLB quote) where the Greek term for “times” (chronos #5550) is PLURAL. Elijah cannot begin the restoration of ‘all things’ (Matt. 17:10-11) as the ‘prophet’ of Acts 3:22-23, until the heavenly restoration process is complete ‘and’ Satan with all the members of his evil body ARE CHAINED; so ‘we’ (Body of Christ) can assume ‘those heavenly seats’ in the heavenly places (see Eph. 6:12). Satan and all the members of his evil ‘body’ (like we are the Body of Christ) MUST be chained, so the ‘earthly’ restoration of ‘all things’ can begin during the upcoming 1000 Year Day of the Lord (shown in blue*).

[Continued] :0)

 

[Terral]

The ‘mystery’ portion of Scripture (Paul’s Epistles = diagram again = in red) receives a ‘double portion,’ because Paul’s mystery Epistles to the ‘Body of Christ’ represents the Holy Place (blood witness = see Temple diagram** = Fig 2) ‘and’ the Thirteen Kingdom Epistles to the Kingdom "Bride" represent the “Court” (water witness**) outside the First Veil represented by the transitional Book of Acts. Hismessenger’s theology breaks down the ‘First Veil’ by mixing the water and blood (1Jn 5:6) ministries of Jesus Christ TOGETHER, so now he cannot see the difference between the END of this current 2000 Year Mystery Time that comes with the ‘final trump’ AND the ‘END of the Age’ that comes some 1000 Years LATER that Christ is describing in Matthew 24. The typical professing Bible Prophecy Expert sees only ‘one’ time of restoration, because he mixes the heavenly ‘and’ earthly restoration ‘times’ together to move ‘our’ mystery translation to immortality back to the END of the Age. Any "Body of Christ" Rapture interpretation connected to the “Great Tribulation” (Matt . 24:21, Rev. 7:14-16) is OFF by the same 1000 Years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, because Peter’s teaching in 2Peter 3:8 escapes their notice entirely . . .

Pure unadulterated speculation on yours and many other Charismatic believers for that is what you are by your words on these pages.

Hismessenger is offering NO COMMENTARY on the few verses quoted in Post #163, but instead resorts to characterizing my interpretations as ‘pure unadulterated speculation’!! :0) At this point I am tempted to simply call my debating opponent a LIAR, but instead I will digress and address the substance of his pathetic claim: The offending aspect of your statement is that supposedly ‘many other Charismatic believers’ also hold and espouse my interpretations that ‘our’ mystery Rapture takes place some 1000 Years 'BEFORE' the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24:21. Okay hotshot, so use your Google search engine and show us even ONE of over 2000 denominations in the USA or anywhere that makes the connection between ‘our’ mystery ‘last trump’ AND the trumpet sounding off ‘behind’ John in Revelation 1:10!!!???!!!??? :0) The chances are that NONE of you have even seen this interpretation before ‘and’ you might never see another professing Christian even make this claim IN THIS LIFETIME. Jesus Christ told His Disciples that the MANY are on the road to destruction ‘and’ that only a ‘few’ are on the path to life (Matt. 7:13-14), so go right ahead and follow the MANY (Luke 13:23-25) about to see the door closed on their deluded faces. :0)

A speculator refusing to accept the written word for some half baked doctrine of a pre-trib rapture.

Again, Hismessenger is wasting precious ‘commentary’ space to characterize my interpretations, as if my work can be tossed in with the ‘pre-trib rapture’ explanations of those blinded by THEIR DENOMINATIONALISM. Who among the ‘pre-trib rapture’ Bible scholars place our Rapture (1Thes. 4:17) some 1000 years BEFORE the Great Tribulation like everyone can clearly see in my diagrams (pic and pic and pic and pic)?? :0) None of them! The fact that Hismessenger can characterize my work in this way can only mean that he (or she) has not even read my posts, or even opened up any of my diagrams at all. Again, the Pre, Midweek and Post-Tribulation Rapture explanations are ALL OFF by the same 1000 Years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord that is a ‘water witness’ time in comparison to this “2000 Year Mystery Time” represented by the Pauline Epistles that NONE of the OT Prophets were given to see. The Pre, Midweek and Post-Tribulation Rapture interpretations are held by the MANY on the road to destruction ‘and’ many of my brothers and sisters IN Christ Jesus are out of fellowship with God and seeing their heavenly rewards PLUNDERED over getting ‘these things’ (2Peter 3:14-16) DEAD WRONG.

If it happened before then how come the word says IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS. NOT BEFORE THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS. IF you can explain that one part ,Then please do so of else just shut up with your dribble.

Shut up? :0) Did Hismessenger quote from Matthew 24 ‘and’ make any connection to Paul’s descriptions of ‘our’ mystery Rapture, before asking this silly question?? :0) No! The common error of the MANY is to run over and into Matthew 24 and merely ASSUME that Jesus Christ is describing events leading up to ‘our’ translation to immortality!!! Our mystery Rapture takes place some 1000 years BEFORE any of the END of the Age events of Matthew 24 are fulfilled! The simple point flying light years above Hismessenger’s head is that Paul is describing how the 1000 Year Day of the Lord BEGINS (1Cor. 15:51-53, 1Thes. 4:15-17), while Jesus Christ (Matt. 24) is describing how the same 1000 Year Period ENDS.

Imagine that the 1000 Year Day of the Lord is a movie ‘and’ Paul’s ‘last trump’ STARTS the movie with the opening credits. Our Body of Christ is WITH THE LAMB in the ‘center of the throne’ (Rev. 7:17) for the entire movie! Each time you see the “Lamb” in Revelation, then ‘we’ (Body of Christ) are already IN HIM. :0) Peter, John and James (the BRIDE) are raised up WITH US (the Body = middle of advanced diagram in blue), until the remainder of the Kingdom “Bride” joins them on the ‘sea of glass’ (Rev.4:6, 15:2*) to sing the ‘song of Moses/Eve’ (Rev. 15:3*) ‘before the throne’ and on the opposite water witness side of that throne from the ‘angels’ representing their ‘spirit witness’ greater halves! The members of Christ’s Body (that’s us) have no angelic super-half, because our ‘two witnesses’ were JOINED together (see middle-left of Fig 3) to ‘start’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, in the moment ‘we’ put on ‘immortality’ (1Cor. 15:53) at our Rapture (1Thes. 4:17) at the 'First Resurrection.'

I gave you scripture which states the truth irrefutably but yet you come with some secret rapture and can't show one definitive scripture to say what you are professing to be in the word. Not One, only theory and it doesn't wash.

Quoting a few verses from Scripture in NO WAY provides one line of meaningful ‘rightly divided’ (2Tim. 2:15) commentary that ‘separates’ the START of the 1000 Year Day of the Lord (Paul) from Christ’s descriptions of the END of the Age (Matt. 24) taking place some 1000 years LATER. In short: Hismessenger cannot even begin to write two solid paragraphs of ‘rightly divided’ commentary about events he CANNOT EVEN SEE. :0)

And lastly I am not of any denomination but Christ. I attend a baptist church because that is where God has me for now but I tell them the same things I have said to you and just like you, they have no understanding yet because they have no light. Only mans knowledge and not the wisdom of God.

I was raised up in the Baptist Denomination and can concur that only a small remnant of Christ’s Body (Church #2) is found among them. However, let’s not pretend for one second that ANY OF THEM have connected the ‘mystery’ dots between our ‘last trumpt’ (1Cor. 15:52) and the ‘trumpet’ sounding off with our Rapture (1Thes.4:16) ‘and’ the ‘trumpet’ sounding off ‘behind’ John in Revelation 1:10 that ‘starts’ the 1000 Year “Lord’s Day” (Day of the Lord). If you would like to back up this ridiculous claim, then go right ahead and provide the link to ANYONE on this earth who places ‘our’ mystery Rapture some 1000 years BEFORE the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24:21. The fact is that we have about 2000 ways to interpret the same verses, which is the reason the USA has over 2000 denominations of ‘professing’ Christians in the first place; BUT there is exactly ‘one truth’ that some of you are only seeing for the very first time in my work on this thread.

So show us Just one scripture that says there is a rapture before the tribulation in no uncertain terms.

You Can't. Truth all, lies 0

Again, Paul is describing ‘our’ (Church #2) mystery Rapture to the members of Christ’s BODY in 1Cor. 15:51-53 ‘and’ 1Thes. 4:13-17 that ‘starts’ the upcoming 1000 Year Day of the Lord. Hismessenger is the one tossing Paul’s descriptions of how the 1000 Year Day of the Lord BEGINS over into Matthew 24 where Jesus Christ is describing how the same 1000 Year Period ENDS. Hismessenger cannot ‘see’ the difference in the ‘start’ and ‘finish’ of the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, so we must endure the empty rhetoric of the blind attempting to lead the blind into the ditch on the side of the road. :0) I am,

In Christ Jesus even now,

Terral

 

[Hismessenger]

Terral, I don't have to imagine what the scriptures says. It says it plainly and for everyone to read without adding anything to it. You on the other hand, can't show one scripture to support what you are professing definitively. You can only use enuendo and supposition to support your claims.

hismessenger

 

[Terral]

Hi HisMessenger:

Terral, I don't have to imagine what the scriptures says. It says it plainly and for everyone to read without adding anything to it.

Your Post-Tribulation Rapture Theory is off by the same 1000 Years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord and nothing you can say in this lifetime will change that simple fact. You give yours and I will do the same and these CF.com members and readers can decide if anyone is approved (1Cor. 11:19) to God by ‘accurately handing’ the word of truth. 2Tim. 2:15. However, sending me these ridiculous “Dear Terral love letters” only means Hismessenger ran out of arguments. :0)

You on the other hand, can't show one scripture to support what you are professing definitively.

You have been held by the hand and shown ‘the truth’ of this topic far too many times already that Paul (1Cor. 15:51-53, 1Thes. 4:15-17) is describing how the 1000 Year Day of the Lord (in blue) ‘begins’ and Jesus Christ (Matt. 24) and Daniel (Dan. 9-12) and Zechariah (Zech. 14) and Peter (2Peter 3:8-12) and John (Revelation) are describing how the same 1000 Year Period ‘ends.’ This side of the Rapture debate cannot help the fact that your side is out of arguments. :0) Please allow me to once again draw you a roadmap using just one (#52) of the eighty diagrams from my “The Mystery Explained” (link) manuscript: written years and years ago:

What you are beholding right here has been anticipated by the angels for ages and ages and they rejoice seeing ‘these things’ (2Peter 3:14-16) through the essence of your souls, but their lesser half human hosts are dense as fence posts and would rather scoff, mock and perish. Acts 13:41. Your Bible (66 books) is laid out according to the pattern of the Tabernacle of Moses and the Temple (diagram) with the 39 (3x13) OT books corresponding to the “Holy of Holies” handed to you on a silver platter in the lower left-hand corner of the Prophecy/Mystery Timeline diagram. That little line below “30 AD” marks the ‘Second Veil’ (pic) where John the Baptist (incarnation of your father Adam) steps through that veil to begin fulfilling the Prophets and the Law (Matt. 11:13) as the ‘prophet’ of the final two verses of the OT (Mal. 4:5-6) testifying as the “Prophet of the Most High” (Luke 1:76-78). BTW, if the "Prophet of the Most High" appeared to you this day, to begin explaining the depths of the secrets of God Himself, then just how would you recognize him? :0)

John the Baptist is the ‘spirit witness’ coming to prepare “The Way” for Jesus Christ (Lord God of OT) to come in ‘water and blood’ (1Jn 5:6) where ‘three’ are testifying (F+S+HS) and preaching the “Gospel of the Kingdom” (Matt. 4:23, 9:35, etc.) to Israel ONLY (Matt. 15:24). John the Baptist (Elijah/David/Adam) is the ‘spirit witness’ and Jesus Christ is the ‘blood witness’ who sent the Holy Spirit Helper (like Eve) as the ‘water witness’ to begin the third and final offering of the “Gospel of the Kingdom” (see Acts 8:12) to Israel ONLY (Acts 2:14, 22, 36) on the Day of Pentecost. However, the beginning of the END for Peter’s ‘Early Rains’ (James 5:7) Kingdom “Bride” (Church #1) comes with Steven’s stoning in Acts 7 where Saul/Paul first enters the scene receiving garments as testimony at Steven’s death. The ‘Dispensational Shift’ (diagram) is talking place between Peter’s Kingdom Bride being ‘cut off’ (Rev. 20:4) and Paul’s Mystery “Body of Christ” (Church #2) that started with Paul on the road to Damascus in Acts 9.

Peter’s Kingdom Bride is eventually ‘cut off’ in 70 AD with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple making the situation very much impossible for the disciples of Peter’s Kingdom Bride to keep the ‘whole law’ (James 5:7), according to Christ’s commands in Matthew 5:17-19. Therefore, the three ministries of John the Baptist, Christ and the Twelve (yellow, red and blue respectively) become part of Israel’s ‘transgression’ (Rom. 11:11), so that Paul’s “my gospel” (#2) is sent to the Gentiles to make Israel jealous (Deut. 32:21, Rom. 10:19); which backed the ‘Second Veil’ up to Malachi 4:5-6 ‘and’ moved the fulfillment of the 1000 Year Day of the Lord ‘back’ into the ‘water witness’ position outside the ‘First Veil’ represented by the transitional Book of Acts. Find “Today” on the 7000 Year Timeline (like this diagram) to realize our mystery “Rapture” is about to take place ‘and’ that Elijah is about to appear to begin the restoration of ‘all things’ (Matt. 17:10-11) as the ‘prophet’ of Acts 3:22-23 coming to rebuild the ‘Tabernacle of David/Adam’ (Acts 15:16-18). The members of Christ’s BODY (Church #2) are ‘caught up’ (1Thes. 4:17 = Raptured) and given rewards (2Cor. 5:10 = simple diagram = upper right), so we can assume the heavenly positions vacated by the ‘chaining’ of Satan (Rev. 20:2 = Rev. 1:10) right along with all the members of his evil body of ‘this darkness’ (Eph. 6:12).

This “1000 Year Day of the Lord” shown again in blue is represented by the Kingdom Books of Hebrews – Revelation in your Bible written to the disciples of Elijah’s “Late Rains” Kingdom Bride called to God via the “Gospel of the Kingdom” (#1) that was preached by Peter, John and James on the Day of Pentecost being fulfilled all over again. :0) Peter, John, James and all the Kingdom Disciples from 2000 years ago represent the ‘dull stones’ at the base of the Kingdom ‘Bride’ Pyramid and those with very little or no faith at all, while Paul, Barnabas and Titus represent the ‘Apostles and Prophets’ (Eph. 4:11) of our mystery ‘Body of Christ’ (pic) atop our Pyramid-like Temple positioned directly under Christ as the Head. The difference is that the ‘stones of fire’ incarnate in the world today represent those ‘dull of hearing’ among the members of Christ’s Body ‘and’ the Kingdom Disciples called to God by Elijah through the ‘Gospel of the Kingdom’ will represent the choice stones for placement at the very top of the Kingdom “Bride” (Church #1) pyramid on the opposite end of the spectrum from Peter, John and James; the very ‘last’ disciples to join ‘us’ (Body of Christ) IN Christ Jesus (Eph. 2:6). But since the typical CF.com member and reader have no idea about the vast differences between Jesus of the flesh ‘and’ Christ Jesus (my thread), then 99 percent of what I send on a silver platter flies light years above your heads and our Lord Jesus Christ must show you the difference at upcoming Judgment where many sons 'will suffer loss' and see their heavenly garment soiled to become dark like a lump of coal. :0)

Looking back to the displayed diagram: Elijah returns to restore all things to ‘start’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord to then be installed as ‘David’ the prince (Eze. 34:23-25), because, like the angels already know, David is another incarnation of your father Adam the angel/messenger of the Lord (like Joshua, Abraham, Elijah and John the Baptist); like Bathsheba represents his ‘helper’ Eve (like Noah, Moses and Sarah); the two olive trees from Zechariah 14:11-14 and Revelation 11:4. These are the same two olive trees and lampstands standing with the Lord God (Christ) at the Mount of Transfiguration (Matt. 17:1-8 = Fig 1) in Elijah (Adam) and Moses (Eve), but only if you have eyes from God like the angels allowing you to see what I the heck I am talking about. :0) David/Adam is ‘cut off’ (Dan. 9:26*) in the 62nd week of the final 70 weeks (Dan. 9:24* = advanced diagram), or about 56 years from the END of the Age; until he is raised up again with his helper (Rev. 11 = your mother Eve) as the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11 at the END of the Age. That is the reason you see Elijah first appearing to ‘start’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord ‘and’ the antichrist appearing over on the right-side some 1000 Years later (Matt 24:15) to begin the Seven Years of Tribulation connected to Daniel’s ‘one week’ (Dan. 9:27) covenant prophecy.

You can only use enuendo and supposition to support your claims.

This is really hilarious. What did Hismessenger ‘quote >>’ from Post # 164 and Part 2 in Post #165 to prove errant using Scripture? 2Tim. 2:15? Nothing as usual. Please send us two more sentences of nothing but whining to assist these readers in determining if either side of this one-sided debate is approved. 1Cor. 11:19. :0)

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

 

[Hismessenger]

Your chart is pretty but you have no scripture to confirm the first rapture shown on your chart. the second one shown is the true rapture and it comes after the tribulation. Back this up if you can and not with what you think it says but show us scripture to prove what you are professing with your pretty chart. There is no mystery rapture where you first show it. God always confirms His word. Can you?

The scripture says the thousand years begins after the tribulation so how do you equate the first. Is Christ reigning on earth right now as He will be in the thousand years. And is Satan on lock down? Your whole theory is nothing more than dribble. We both know the truth of this. Those things you present are nothing in and of themselves just like your theory. Words with no substance.

Are you of God or the father of lies? Christ is the truth. Your words don't reflect the truth.


hiusmessenger

 

[Terral]

Hi HisMessenger:

Now this has become beyond ridiculous . . .

Your chart is pretty but you have no scripture to confirm the first rapture shown on your chart.

The mystery Rapture of our mystery church appears in 1Corinthians 15:51-53 and 1Thessalonians 4:13-17 for those of us NOT BLIND as bats. BTW, the nonsense you posted in Post #168 has no Scripture at all - again. :0)

The second one shown is the true rapture and it comes after the tribulation.

Really? That should be news to everyone, because the term ‘harpazo’ (#726), from 1Thes. 4:17, appears nowhere in Matthew 24 at all. Please explain how you even contrive a ‘rapture’ event at the END of the Age, when Christ did not even use the term when describing ‘Your coming’ at the ‘END of the Age’ (Matt. 24:3+). Perhaps someone does not know the difference between a ‘resurrection’ and a ‘rapture’?? :0)

Back this up if you can and not with what you think it says but show us scripture to prove what you are professing with your pretty chart.

Back what up? Once again you pulled out a new sheet of paper to begin typing out nonsense without quoting from ‘my work,’ or from God’s Living Word, or anything else. Would you be talking about this ‘chart’ (#78) showing how the seven church periods from the “1000 Year Day of the Lord” correspond to the seven parables of Matthew 13? Or would that be diagram #52 that shows the 1000 Year Day of the Lord shaded in blue on the “Prophecy/Mystery Timeline”?? This is the likely candidate, because obviously you did NOT even read the substance of my supported arguments to even know my work on this thread is saturated with diagram after diagram after diagram. Right? :0) Of course. In either case, our mystery Rapture (Body) ‘starts’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord ‘and’ the events from Christ’s Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24) take place some 1000 years ‘LATER,’ just before Satan and his cronies are thrown into the lake of fire at the END of the Age. In other words, our upcoming mystery (1Cor. 15:51-53) Rapture (1Thes. 4:17) takes place some 1000 Years ‘before’ the END of the Age; which is a concept that apparently boggles your mind. :0)

There is no mystery rapture where you first show it. God always confirms His word. Can you?

Yes, but HisMessenger cannot see ‘the truth’ that our mystery Rapture ‘starts’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, even though you have been shown a half dozen times in this debate using Scripture that many cotton-picking diagrams. Let’s look at another diagram to see if any of your empty claims make one lick of sense:

Here we are again looking at 4000 years of the OT from Adam’s fall (Gen. 3:21) to the time that John the Baptist began fulfilling the Prophets and the Law (Matt. 11:13); even though the 1000 Year Day of the Lord (in blue again) was placed onto the back burner for ‘fulfillment’ AFTER this current “2000 Year Mystery Time” is OVER. The 2000 Year Mystery Time contains the “Dispensation of God’s Grace” (Eph. 3:2) where the “Body of Christ” is maturing in preparation for assuming the vacated seats of Satan’s evil body of ‘this darkness’ (Eph. 6:12) about to be “CHAINED” to start the 1000 Year Day of the Lord. Find “Today” again to realize that our “Body Rapture” (First Resurrection) is about to take place where ‘we’ put on immortality (1Cor. 15:51-53) being ‘caught up’ (Raptured = 1Thes. 4:17) to meet the Lord in the air. Only then will the 1000 Year Day of the Lord “BEGIN,” so that Elijah/David/Adam can begin the process of restoring ‘all things’ (Matt. 17:10-11) as the ‘prophet’of Acts 3:22-23 and ‘no,’ I am not going to explain everything again to someone unable to make a case for ANYTHING at all . . .

If you look up into ‘Heaven’ (in red), then you see the “Lamb” in the ‘center of the throne’ (Rev. 7:17) where “WE ARE IN THE LAMB,” as the members of “Christ’s BODY” (1Cor. 12:27). However, if you look over to the Lamb’s right hand, then you see Peter, John, James, the Eunuch, Cornelius, the Samarians of Acts 8, the Disciples of Acts 19:1-6 and everyone saved some 2000 Years Ago through obeying the “Gospel of the Kingdom” standing on the ‘sea of glass’ from Revelation 4:6, 15:2. ‘THEY’ are the ‘Kingdom of Priests’ (Rev. 1:6, 5:10) who fulfilled Exodus 19:5-6 to become as the stars of the heavens (Gen. 22:17) with the servants of David (Eze. 34:23-25) representing the ‘sand of the seashore’ in the Kingdom of heaven “on earth AS IT IS in heaven” (not shown) Matt. 6:10.

If you look over to Christ’s left hand (from our perspective) in heaven, then you see the members of the “Body of Elijah/Adam” like Peter, John and James are members of the “Body of Moses/Eve” (Jude 1:9); even though the angels believe themselves to be at the ‘right hand’ of the Lamb, because everything in the heavens is turned around to appear backwards from our earthly perspective. The key here is that every member of the Body of Moses/Eve has an angelic super-half standing on the invisible sea, until the two are eventually made into ‘one’ at the Marriage Supper Of The Lamb in this Age (Rev. 19:5-10) or in one of the ‘ages to come’ (see Eph. 2:7). Looking even higher in the diagram, you can see “God Who Is” (Rev. 1:6) in the “Highest Heaven” (1Kings 8:27), which is actually the “Heaven” from Genesis 1:1. The “Heaven” where the Lamb is in the ‘center of the throne’ was called to exist in Genesis 1:8 between the heavens ‘and’ the earth (see 2Peter 3:5 = diagram) of this Adamic Universe. However, everything you see here is ‘temporary’ and represents how the Heaven and Earth appear during the final 1000 Years of this ‘evil age’ (Gal. 1:4). Everything is changed with the New Heaven and New Earth to look more like this:

David has been raised up yet again (Jer. 30:9) and installed as ‘king forever’ (Eze. 37:24-28) on this earth (lower left in blue) and the Lamb takes His seat in New Jerusalem at the same time with the “Body of Christ” (that’s us) still very much IN Him in the center of ‘that’ new throne. Peter, John and James are still serving as ‘priests,’ but no longer on the ‘sea of glass,’ which is actually a makeshift ‘water witness’ provision in heaven in anticipation of the New Earth where New Jerusalem also has a ‘water witness’ component containing their heavenly inheritance. There is no longer any death, as we know it today, because that was thrown into the lake of fire with Hades (Rev. 20:14) to end this evil age. This is where Jacob’s ladder comes into play (Gen. 28:12) where men (from Eve) are ascending and angels (from Adam) are descending in anticipation of becoming ‘one’ after serving the Lamb like the men also served David in the Kingdom of God ‘on earth AS IT IS in heaven.’ For the mature: God is doing everything in the Highest Heaven like the Lamb is doing in ‘heaven’ of this Adamic Universe; like David on this earth is doing everything the Lamb does, as these three Kingdoms (God’s, Christ’s and David’s) eventually become “one” (diagram) at the END of all the ages to come. Therefore, the upcoming 1000 Year Day of the Lord is merely a ‘warm up’ for the members of Christ’s BODY (Church #2) jockeying for positions higher in the Pyramid-like Temple/Building/Dwelling of the Lord where the sons of men in the world today represent the most common stones located near the very bottom of the proverbial barrel indeed.

[Continued] :0)

 

[Terral]

The scripture says the thousand years begins after the tribulation so how do you equate the first.

Where did you ever get such an idea that the upcoming 1000 Year Day of the Lord takes place ‘after’ the ‘Great Tribulation’ of Matthew 24:21???? Your fathers have been telling this lie for almost 2000 years and people line up in droves to swallow that nonsense hook, line and sinker. Here we have the “Great Tribulation” starting in Matthew 24:21 ‘and’ the "Son of Man" returns just a few verses later (Matt. 24:30-31) at the END of the Age (Matt. 24:3 = Your coming ‘and’ the END of the Age) to judge the living (Matt. 25:31-34) and the dead (Rev. 20:11-15). The 1000 Years is already OVER by the time ANY of Christ’s Matthew 24 events are fulfilled and there is ‘no time’ for yet another 1000 Years. Listen carefully to the ‘question’ that Jesus Christ IS ANSWERING from His Disciples:

“As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, AND what will be the sign of Your coming, AND of the END of the Age?" Matthew 24:3.

Even Christ’s Disciples know that “Your Coming” (Matt. 24:30-31 = 25:31-34) is connected directly to the END OF THE AGE. There is only ONE “END of the Age” where Christ is judging from His Throne in Revelation 20:11-15. Right here in Matthew 24 Christ says, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.” Matthew 24:35. If you run backwards into Zechariah 14, then you will see the prophecy that Jesus Christ will fulfill in the ONLY reference to the “Mount of Olives” in the entire Old Testament.

“In that day [END of the Age] His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south. You will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD, my God, will come, {and} all the holy ones with Him!” In that day there will be no light; the luminaries will dwindle. Zechariah 14:4-6.

Jesus Christ’s “COMING” in glory (Matt. 24:30-31) and ‘us with Him’ (Col. 3:4) will END THIS EVIL AGE, where there is NO TIME for yet another 1000 Year Day of the Lord that JUST ENDED with all the events of Matthew 24. However, the Apostle Paul (1Cor. 15:51-53, 1Thes. 4:15-17) is describing how the 1000 Year Day of the Lord ‘STARTS’ some 1000 years EARLIER, when the 1000 Year Day of the Lord BEGINS. Do the CAPS help at all? :0) Here is your problem in a nutshell, so either wake the hell up or remain sound asleep: A few deluded men ran back to Revelation 20:4-6 and ‘INVENTED’ an entirely new 1000 Years, when Satan is chained (Rev. 20:2) way back in Revelation 1:10 ‘and’ that 1000 Years PASSED in Revelation chapters 1-3. John is then called up TO HEAVEN (Rev. 4:1) to begin retelling the same END OF THE AGE events (Matt. 24:4-31) from many different perspectives over and over and over again, even though exactly ‘one’ 1000 Year “Day of the Lord” period starts AND ENDS in the Book of Revelation. I cannot help the fact that MANY are blinded by the ‘god of this world’ (2Cor. 4:3-4) and his ‘deluding influence’ is forcing MANY to ‘believe what is FALSE’ (2Thes. 2:11) all of their days on this earth. My responsibility is to serve GOD (Gal. 1:10) and His Son our Lord Jesus Christ and especially the members of “Christ’s BODY” (Church #2) right up until the moment that God says otherwise.

Is Christ reigning on earth right now as He will be in the thousand years.

Where do you guys get this stuff? Jesus Christ is taking His seat far above this earth, as HEAVEN is His throne and this earth is merely His footstool (Isa. 66:1 = my thread). Scripture says,

“Now the main point in what has been said is this: we have such a High Priest, who has taken His seat at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, a Minister in the Sanctuary and in the True Tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, not man.” Hebrews 8:1-2.

Jesus Christ told Pilate that His Heavenly Kingdom (2Tim. 4:18) is NOT of this world or even of this realm. John 18:36. Jesus Christ is sitting DOWN at the right hand of throne of the Majesty (the Father) in the Heavens in the ‘True Tabernacle’ for which the “Tabernacle of David/Adam” (Acts 15:16-18) is A MERE COPY. Those of you thinking that Jesus Christ is returning to this earth to rule for a mere 1000 years are deluded out of your cotton-picking minds! Again you run back to Revelation 20:4-6 and pretend these ‘heavenly’ events are taking place on this earth, when DAVID is installed as ‘prince’ (Eze. 34:23-25) and the Lamb is in the ‘center of the throne’ IN HEAVEN.

Your 1000 Year earthly reign of Christ makes NO SENSE at all, because NONE of you guys can offer us one paragraph on how that temporary kingdom WILL END. :0) Who is going to come along and throw Christ off of His ‘temporary’ Throne in your temporary 1000 Year Kingdom? Fools! Jesus Christ is returning in GREAT GLORY to END the Age (Matt. 24:30-31) and the 1000 Year Kingdom is already OVER; because the Dragon, Beast and False Prophet have already made David’s Kingdom DESOLATE. Elijah/David/Adam returned some 1000 years ‘earlier’ to restore the kingdom to Israel, during the ‘times and epochs’ period (Acts 1:6-7) that Paul had no need to even write about (1Thes. 5:1-2). Why? That is simple: Because ‘we’ (Body of Christ) will see all of that FROM HEAVEN between our Rapture (1Thes. 4:17) and the END of the Age some 1000 years LATER. :0)

And is Satan on lock down?

Satan and all the members of his evil body of ‘this darkness’ are CHAINED to ‘start’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord back in Revelation 1:10 (for the umpteenth cotton-picking time). The fools you are listening to have invented another 1000 Year period from an incorrect interpretation of Revelation 20 that is AN OVERVIEW of the entire 1000 Year Day of the Lord from Satan’s perspective. The Dragon (Satan) and his boy-child Beast (son of destruction) and their False Prophet (from Rev. 13) are all working together at the END of the Age ‘and’ they all end up in the lake of fire to END of this evil age. Only then will the New Heaven and New Earth begin in Revelation 21:1+ that begins the new age, just about 1000 Years in the future of this earth. Why in 1000 years? Because, our mystery Rapture ‘starts’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord when Satan is chained and he is released just once for his 'short time' that ends this evil age just about 1000 years LATER.

Your whole theory is nothing more than dribble. We both know the truth of this. Those things you present are nothing in and of themselves just like your theory. Words with no substance.

Your posts have no Scripture and ‘the truth’ is being presented for those called by God to see. The rest of you are on your own. :0)

Are you of God or the father of lies? Christ is the truth. Your words don't reflect the truth.

Jesus Christ is the “Son of the Living God” (Matt. 16:15-17) and every word of these deliberations will be rehashed time and time and time again from many different perspectives ‘and’ everyone from the least to the mightiest of God’s angels will see HisMessenger eat these words. :0)

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

 

[ezek33]

Terral

Just as i figured, nothing but blah blah blah and no scripture to back up your mystery rapture.

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The true rapture after the tribulation of those days.

Scripture, not my words is what I have given you. But I know since you can't answer the scripture you will only attack what I have said.
Attack my words all you want, but you have no answer for the scripture and this shows who you are in Christ.

hismessenger

Hismessenger you are absolutely correct. Might I suggest that conversing with people such a terrel is futile, they will never see the truth, to be honest they really do care to.

 

[Terral]

Hi Ezek:

Hismessenger you are absolutely correct. Might I suggest that conversing with people such a terrel is futile, they will never see the truth, to be honest they really do care to.

With everything presented in my posts on this thread, what has Ezek managed to ‘quote >>’ and prove wrong using Scripture? 2Tim. 2:15? Exactly nothing. :0) The Post-Tribulation Rapture interpretation of Scripture is DEAD WRONG right along with the Pre-Tribulation Rapture and Midweek Rapture MYTHS. They are all off by the same 1000 Years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord (2Peter 3:8-10) that is about to ‘begin’ with our mystery (1Cor. 15:51-53) Rapture (1Thes. 4:15-17). The events included in Christ’s Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24) are fulfilled at the END of the Age some 1000 years later at the END of the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, which is demonstrated in my posts on this Rapture Topic. If anyone here wishes to try and prove any of my statements wrong, then by all means ‘quote >>’ anything at all to show everyone my nakedness – IF YOU CAN. :0)

All I see here is another two-sentence whiner reply from another CF.com member without an argument for anything at all. GL in the debate if you decide to take up the challenge.

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

 

[ezek33]

Hi Ezek:



With everything presented in my posts on this thread, what has Ezek managed to ‘quote >>’ and prove wrong using Scripture? 2Tim. 2:15? Exactly nothing. :0) The Post-Tribulation Rapture interpretation of Scripture is DEAD WRONG right along with the Pre-Tribulation Rapture and Midweek Rapture MYTHS. They are all off by the same 1000 Years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord (2Peter 3:8-10) that is about to ‘begin’ with our mystery (1Cor. 15:51-53) Rapture (1Thes. 4:15-17). The events included in Christ’s Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24) are fulfilled at the END of the Age some 1000 years later at the END of the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, which is demonstrated in my posts on this Rapture Topic. If anyone here wishes to try and prove any of my statements wrong, then by all means ‘quote >>’ anything at all to show everyone my nakedness – IF YOU CAN. :0)

All I see here is another two-sentence whiner reply from another CF.com member without an argument for anything at all. GL in the debate if you decide to take up the challenge.

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

I don't think you are convincing anyone of anything just blowing a lot of hot air.

 

[Hismessenger]

Terral


The question was , Is Satan locked down now if we are in the thousand year reign. The truth is before you and if you deny it, you also deny Christ. Satan is fully at work in the earth realm and He is not chained in the pit. In the thousand year reign which you are suppose to know, Satan is locked down. Everyone who reads this thread will know the truth by what has been given in regard to this so either put up or shut up. Your charts only serve to support the scripture I posted. The Father of lies is very pleased with you for he doesn't have to worry about trying to get someone He already has.

Come on Terral, you can say it for the truth needs not to be propped up like your doctrine. NO !

hismessenger

 

[Terral]

Hi Ezek and Hismessenger:

I don't think you are convincing anyone of anything just blowing a lot of hot air.

Please try again when Ezek has a supported argument for anything in this Rapture debate. GL.

The question was , Is Satan locked down now if we are in the thousand year reign.

Satan is chained (Rev. 20:2) to START the 1000 Year Day of the Lord that John is standing inside (Lord’s Day) in Revelation 1:10!!! We are living through the 2000 Year Mystery Time that began with Paul on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:15-16) and ends with our Mystery (1Cor. 15:51-53) Rapture (1Thes. 4:15-17). Satan is very much the ‘god of this world’ (2Cor. 4:3-4) and the ‘prince of the power of the air’ (Eph. 2:2) throughout this 2000 Year Mystery Time, which is the primary reason that his ‘deluding influence’ has the power ‘and’ authority to force people to ‘believe what is false’ (2Thes. 2:11) in the first place. Our last trump sounds (1Cor. 15:52, 1Thes. 4:16) off ‘behind’ John in Revelation 1:10 when Satan and all the members of his evil body are CHAINED to ‘start’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord.

The truth is before you and if you deny it, you also deny Christ.

Stop being foolish and simply try to make your Post-Tribulation Rapture Theory case, if you and your pal Ezek actually have one. There is no ‘Rapture’ connected to the Great Tribulation in Matthew 24 ANYWHERE, which has been shown to you guys already. Where is your case connecting a ‘harpazo’ (#726 = 1Thes. 4:17) to anything in Matthew 24 and Christ’s END of the Age Coming? All I see from the Post-Rapture Twins is a little bit of cold air. :0)

Satan is fully at work in the earth realm and He is not chained in the pit.

No kidding! Our Mystery Rapture (1Thes. 4:17) has yet to happen, which means the ‘last trump’ (1Cor. 15:52, 1Thes. 4:16) has yet to sound, because the 1000 Year Day of the Lord is still IN THE FUTURE. This is not rocket science and you guys are not even trying . . .

In the thousand year reign which you are suppose to know, Satan is locked down.

Satan is bound in the thousand years between Revelation 1:10 and his ‘short time’ (Rev. 20:3) and is released just prior to the END of the Age (Rev. 20:7). Satan is the ‘father’ of the Beast of Revelation 13 and the ‘spirit witness’ (like the Father) giving life and the authority to judge in the same kind of ‘relationship’ we see between the Father and His Son:

"For just as the Father (Satan) has life in himself, even so He gave to the ‘son of destruction’ [2Thes. 2:3-4] also to have life in himself [the Beast]; and He gave him authority to execute judgment, because he is the son of man.” John 5:26-27 applied to the son of Satan (on left).

Most of you think that Daniel’s prophecies about ‘the Messiah’ being ‘cut off’ (Dan. 9:26) have already been fulfilled, when that is just another MYTH with no basis in Biblical reality whatsoever. Daniel’s “Seventy Weeks Decree” (Dan. 9:24) is fulfilled during the final 490 years of the upcoming 1000 Year Day of the Lord that ‘begins’ (“has come” = 2Thes. 2:2) with our Mystery Rapture when Satan is chained. To gain understanding on these points we must haul out the advanced diagram and start at the beginning:

From the left: The Garden of Eden is a ‘heavenly’ abode where we see the ‘sea of glass’ (Rev. 4:6, 15:2) and the Lamb standing in the ‘center of the throne’ (pic = very center) from Revelation 7:17. If David could ascend up Jacob’s ladder (pic) during the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, then he would find himself appearing on the ‘sea of glass’ facing the opposite direction ‘away’ from the Lamb, until he turns around to behold His Glory where Adam once stood ‘before’ the fall in the Tabernacle of David/Adam standing between the “Heavens” (abode of the angels) and the “Earth” (visible universe of men). Adam (Joshua, Abraham, David, John the Baptist, coming prophet) and his helper (Eve/Noah/Moses/Sarah/Bathsheba) were placed in human ‘skins’ (Gen. 3:21) by the Lord God (Christ) on the day of the ‘fall’ when these two olive trees and lampstands (Zech. 4:14, Rev. 11:4) were driven from the Garden for Adam to cry, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?!” between the wings of the cherubim.

The Lord God then stood by and allowed His ‘son of God’ (Luke 3:38) to suffer under the heel of Satan for 930 long years, until he died and was placed in another ‘skin’ as Joshua leading Israel into the Promised Land with the dividing of the Jordan River “at Adam” (Joshua 3:16). The Lord God placed His olive trees into the skins of Abraham and Sarah, so the ‘water race’ (Jews) could be taken from Abraham’s side to become the ‘helper/priests’ of the world (Gentiles), when the ‘Tabernacle of David/Adam’ is finally restored and rebuilt (Acts 15:16-18); which just happens to correspond with the “Rapture Of Mystery Church (First Resurrection)” in the center of the above diagram. The Lord God would place Adam in the human skin of Elijah who wielded the same powers of the ‘cultivator of the land’ (Adam) like Moses (Eve) did before Pharaoh that allowed His Chosen Race to escape through the Red Sea by dividing the waters yet again. We see the ‘skins’ correlation for Adam in Elijah (2Kings 1:8) and John the Baptist (Mark 1:6) proving that John the Baptist is indeed “Elijah,” just like the Lord God (Christ) said in Matthew 11:13-14.

The Tabernacle of David/Adam would be restored back in the Four Gospels with John the Baptist (David/Adam), but the ‘time’ for the restoration of ‘heaven’ had yet to even begin and the Lord God asserted that “they did not recognize him” (Matt. 17:12) and that the Earthly Messiah ("man of the earth" = John 3:31 = Dan. 9:26) is Elijah “who is to come” at some point in the future. This is the very reason that Peter revives the ‘prophecy’ about the coming ‘prophet’ in Acts 3:19-26, who is yet another ‘skin’ for your father Adam coming to restore the ‘Tabernacle of David/Adam’ and the relationship of ‘innocence’ (hearts of the fathers to children = Mal. 4:5-6) between the ‘son of God’ (prophet, king, priest) and the “Son of God” (Heavenly Prophet, King, Priest) the "Lord God" (Christ) who formed him and the Garden of Eden. In short: Jesus Christ is the Lord God of the OT who came to this earth to make the ultimate sacrifice (Calvary) that His ‘son of God’ (Adam) could NOT make for himself and ‘her seed,’ even though every step Christ took mimicked the footsteps of Adam over the course of those 930 years detailed in Isaiah 53 written in the ‘past tense’ about your father Adam who we are now ready to revisit in the ‘skin’ of John the Baptist in the above diagram copied down into Part 2 for your convenience:

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[Terral]

John the Baptist is your father Adam sent from God (John 1:6), testifying about "The Light" (Christ), as “My messenger/angel” (Mal. 3:1) preparing The Way for the Lord God who formed him back in the Garden of Eden; even though the MANY refuse to ‘recognize him’ down to this very day. John the Baptist/Adam is the earthly “Messiah” that was ‘cut off’ (Dan. 9:26) to have nothing some 2000 years ago (Matt. 14:10) who MUST come again to restore ‘all things’ (Matt. 17:10-11) when our mystery church is finally Raptured only ‘after’ this 2000 Year Mystery Time IS OVER. The OT Prophets ‘can’ see into the 1000 Year Day of the Lord (in blue), but NONE of them were given to see anything inside this 2000 Year Mystery Time shaded in red. Elijah will appear to Israel at the Jordan River, just like 2000 years ago outside of Jerusalem, and will baptize the entire nation and give them the Holy Spirit by the laying of hands; according to the provisions of the ‘Gospel of the Kingdom’ (Gospel #1), as ‘that’ will be the “Gospel of God” (Mark 1:14-15) from that time to the END of the Age (Matt. 24:14).

Elijah will lead Israel across the Jordan River and into the Promised Land for the third and final time (Joshua/Elijah and this final time) where Israel’s eyes will be opened to then ‘recognize’ him as their father ‘David’ from Eze. 34:23-25; which brings Israel through the “First Veil” dividing the Pauline Epistles from Hebrews – Revelation 20:6 in God’s Living Word ‘and’ in the diagram above. Only then is the Kingdom from Ezekiel 47-48 restored with the Temple of Ezekiel 40+ in a kingdom that will see perfection for just over 500 years. However, the “Seventy Weeks Decree” will take effect (in purple on timeline) and the sons of ‘your seed’ (Gen. 3:15) will begin incarnating onto this earth to begin causing David/Adam all kinds of trouble; until Satan himself incarnates to begin his “short time” from Revelation 12:12 (heavenly battle with Michael) and Revelation 20:7 for the “Completion of Desolation” (Dan. 9:2) process to become complete.

Satan then ‘cuts off’ the Messiah (David) at the 62nd Week point, or about 56 years from the END of the Age, as Daniel is counting ‘backwards’ from the END of the Age (Dan. 12:11-13) in making his ‘weeks’ calculations; which clears ‘The Way’ for his ‘son of destruction’ to enter the Holy Place (Matt. 24:15) to set up his “abomination of desolation” (Dan. 11:31, 12:11-13) very near the END of the Age. However (this is the fun part), then the Lord God raises Adam up yet again, but this time with his helper Eve, and they are given authority to testify amid great signs as the ‘Two Witnesses’ of Revelation 11; as the two olive trees and lampstands that have testified in heaven and on earth throughout God’s Living Word from the very beginning. When John says that “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord ‘and’ His Christ” (Rev. 11:15) then Jesus is the Lord God and “His Christ/Messiah/Anointed One” is none other than “David/Adam” (Jer. 30:9) returning with Him in glory (like Christ’s Body = Col. 3:4) just ‘after’ his ascension in Rev. 11:12 (“Come up here&#8221. :0)

If you look over into the “New Earth” at the far right of the above diagram, then you see “First = Last” and the “Earthly Messiah” is “Our Father Adam” who is the “King Forever” from Ezekiel 37:24-28 where Jesus Christ is the Lord God who formed him for that very purpose way back in the Garden of Eden in the first place. :0)

Everyone who reads this thread will know the truth by what has been given in regard to this so either put up or shut up.

Please continue with the insults that find Hismessenger digging his hole even deeper. :0)

Your charts only serve to support the scripture I posted. The Father of lies is very pleased with you for he doesn't have to worry about trying to get someone He already has.

If Hismessenger and your pal Ezek had a case for ANYTHING, then you guys would be attacking my supported arguments and not my person. :0)

Come on Terral, you can say it for the truth needs not to be propped up like your doctrine. NO!

You guys are fumbling around in the dark making a case for nothing, while my work includes the things that God Himself has given me to see through His Living Word. Here is another prophecy for you guys to consider: The Body of Christ is like a vast Pyramid (pic) where Christ is the Capstone (Eph. 2:20) and the Apostles and Prophets are the foundation stones and the ‘dull of hearing’ stones of fire in the world today are becoming the common stones at the very base. However, the antithesis ‘body of antichrist’ (left side of this diagram) also has the appearance of a pyramid that is very much ‘inverted’ (like this) where the many common stones wallow in agony on the surface of the lake of fire (diagram = Second Death) ‘and’ (this is the fun part) Satan is the ‘head’ at the very deepest and hottest and most miserable location possible wallowing away at the very bottom. In fact, the passageways and corridors and doorways in the lake of fire all coincide with their counterparts on the ‘Christ Jesus’ side of the equation, so that the stones within the ‘ephods’ (pic) of the ‘sons of God’ allow access to ‘both’ sides (Christ Jesus ‘and’ Antichrist) of these parallel but antithesis Temples/Dwellings.

The difference is that those wallowing away in agony in the lake of fire have been stripped of their precious stones now worn by their ‘her seed’ counterparts making regular trips of ‘visitation’ to behold your torment and condemnation for ALL the ages to come. Throughout the coming ages, the ‘son of man’ (Adam representing the heavens, heaven and earth = diagram like Christ = F+S+HS) will descend into the lake of fire where souls like you will become famous among ‘your seed’ and the ‘sons of disobedience’ (Eph. 2:2) and the ‘servants of righteousness’ serving their ‘angel of light’ (2Cor. 11:14-15) and the evil powers of ‘this darkness’ (Eph. 6:12) for a simple reason: Each time Adam opens a ‘lower door’ in the lake of fire Temple/Dwelling to cast you even LOWER, to be nearer to ‘your father,’ then a condemned son of Satan must be released to assume a ‘higher’ position that will make his agony just a little bit more comfortable, if anyone can imagine a lesser degree of ‘fire’ and ‘torment’ to be a comfort to anyone. Therefore, be sure to have fun hurling your insults in this direction with all the scoffing and mocking, because very soon there will be nothing left but the ‘perishing’ (Acts 13:41) that represents ‘fun, fun, fun’ for all the ages to come. :0)

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

 

[Hismessenger]

Terral,,

Show me and others where this passage says that a trumpet sounds.

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day [Day of the Lord], and I heard BEHIND ME a loud voice [voice of the archangel = 1Thes. 4:16] like the sound of a trumpet [1Cor. 15:52, 1Thes. 4:16], saying, "Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea." Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands [the seven angels of the seven churches]; and in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like a son of man [One who is immortal = man + angel], clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and girded across His chest with a golden sash. His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire.” Revelation 1:10-14.

From what I read, it says that a voice that SOUNDED LIKE A TRUMPET.
Adding to the word will only bring you curses..

The other part of this is if the church has been raptured, Why is He instructed to write and send it to the churches. Just a few more unanswerable questions for you Terral according to your doctrine. You say that the pre -trib is off also but yet by what you say it is a pre trib rapture or don't you even know what your spouting on the thread.

hismessenger

 

[Terral]

Hi Hismessenger:

Show me and others where this passage says that a trumpet sounds.

From what I read, it says that a voice that SOUNDED LIKE A TRUMPET.
Adding to the word will only bring you curses..

“Accurately handling the word of truth” (2Tim. 2:15) means quoting God to offer the correct ‘interpretation,’ which I have been doing on this thread since Post #6 and Post #9 just about one year ago. BTW, what exactly did Hismessenger ‘quote >>’ from my work this time to prove wrong in anyway using Scripture? Nothing again – as usual. :0) Scripture says,

“I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. For the time will come when they will NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from ‘THE TRUTH’ and will turn aside to MYTHS.” 2Timothy 4:1-4.

The Post-Tribulation Rapture Theory you are pushing on this fine CF.com Board IS A MYTH with no basis in Biblical Reality whatsoever. Our ‘mystery’ (1Cor. 15:51-53) Rapture (1Thes. 4:15-17) ‘starts’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord ‘and’ the events of Christ’s Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24) ‘end’ the same 1000 Year Period some 1000 years ‘later.’ I am sorry that there is no room in your broken theology for this aspect of ‘sound doctrine,’ but I am finished restating the same things for you over and over and over again on this thread. Anyone with a case for the errant Pre, Midweek and Post-Tribulation Rapture MYTHS is welcome to ‘quote >>’ any errors you see in my new Opening Post (here) and encouraged to make a case for something else using whatever you consider to be credible evidence from God’s Living Word. 2Tim. 3:16-17.

The other part of this is if the church has been raptured, Why is He instructed to write and send it to the churches.

The ‘seven churches’ are Kingdom Churches with Kingdom Disciples (Kingdom of Priests) who obeyed the “Gospel of the Kingdom” (Gospel #1) and added to Peter’s Prophetic Kingdom “Bride” (Church #1) having nothing to do with our mystery ‘Body of Christ’ (Church #2) at all. These seven churches in Revelation 1-3 represent seven church ‘periods’ that span the entire 1000 Year Day of the Lord (pic) that correspond precisely to the ‘seven parables’ where Christ explains “The Mysteries Of The Kingdom Of Heaven” beginning with the “Parable of the Sower” (Matt. 13:1-23). The seven church periods span the first three chapters of Revelation, until John is called up to heaven (Rev. 4:1) to begin retelling the END of the Age events over and over again from many different perspectives, which includes Revelation 20 told from the perspective of the devil chained in the bottomless pit for this same 1000 Year Day of the Lord. You have been blinded by your ‘one gospel’ and ‘one church’ MYTHS and now you cannot see the difference between Kingdom Doctrine for Peter’s Kingdom “Bride” (Church #1 at the Lamb's right hand*) and Grace Doctrine for Paul’s Mystery “Body of Christ” (Church #2 already IN the Lamb*); which leads to nothing more than stumbling around in the dark and wondering what in the heck happened. :0)

Just a few more unanswerable questions for you Terral according to your doctrine. You say that the pre -trib is off also but yet by what you say it is a pre trib rapture or don't you even know what your spouting on the thread.

Any mystery Rapture (1Thes. 4:17) explanation connected to the “Great Tribulation” is OFF by the same 1000 years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord!!!! Again (this is getting old), Paul (1Cor. 15:51-53, 1Thes. 4:15-17) is describing how the 1000 Year Day of the Lord WILL BEGIN ‘and’ Jesus Christ (Matt. 24), Daniel (Dan. 9-12) and Zechariah (Zech. 14) and Ezekiel (Eze. 34:23-25) and Peter (2Peter 3:8-12) and John (Revelation 1-20) are ALL describing how the 1000 Year Day of the Lord ENDS leading up to the END OF THE AGE still over 1000 years IN THE FUTURE. That is the very reason that my new Topic Title says: “Our Mystery Rapture STARTS The 1000 Year Day Of The Lord.” The “Great Tribulation” (Matt. 24:21, Rev. 7:14-16) is an END of the Age event that ‘we’ (Body of Christ) will see FROM HEAVEN, as by ‘that time’ we will already be with Christ IN HEAVEN in “His HEAVENLY Kingdom” (2Tim. 4:18) for just about 1000 years. :0)

If you want to toss my mystery Rapture explanation in with the Pre-Tribulation Rapture people, then remember to add the same 1000 Years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord (simple pic). My views on this topic have been presented to my complete satisfaction and anyone actually seeking ‘the truth’ on this matter has been given plenty of evidence to support my thesis statements, claims and conclusions. If you really believe that your Post-Tribulation Rapture MYTH has any basis in Biblical Reality (it does NOT), then I should think you guys would rather make that case on Page 1 of the new thread than on Page 18 of this old thread started one year ago now at about Post #200.

Good luck in the debates,

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

 

[Hismessenger]

Terral

You accuse me of pointing out your error because you have no answer for the truth. The word of truth is what you said and then you add your own spin to try and make it fit what you are saying.

Here is your own scripture to support your false doctrine

Accurately handling the word of truth” (2Tim. 2:15) means quoting God to offer the correct ‘interpretation,’ which I have been doing on this thread since Post #6 and Post #9 just about one year ago. BTW, what exactly did Hismessenger ‘quote >>’ from my work this time to prove wrong in anyway using Scripture? Nothing again – as usual. :0) Scripture says,

Here is the truth which you have tried to pervert.

and I heard BEHIND ME a loud voice [voice of the archangel = 1Thes. 4:16] like the sound of a trumpet

It doesn't say it was a trumpet no matter how you try and twist it. Accurately handling the word of truth.

I quoted your own error from your work.

hismessenger

 

[Hismessenger]

Terral,

You asked for someone to point out one error in your posts then here is another,

Your Bible is laid out according to this Prophecy/Mystery Time line ‘and’ a map of the triune Tabernacle of Moses and the Temple (diagram = Fig 2). You have 4000 years from Adam’s fall (Gen. 3:21) to the end of the Old Testament when God began fulfilling His promises to Israel of the flesh by offering the “Gospel of the Kingdom” (Gospel #1) through which Peter’s Early Rains ‘Bride’ (Church #1) was gathered some 2000 years ago. Find ‘Today’ on the time line to realize we are living near the END of the “2000 Year Mystery Time” that the OT prophets were NOT allowed to see ‘and’ that our mystery rapture BEGINS the upcoming 1000 Year Day of the Lord shown here also in blue:

I asked this once before but you had a mental laspe I quess. Is Satan on Lock down if the church was taken 2000 years ago and when did this first resurrection take place?

Your error, not ours.

hismessenger