Should Christians interact with Gays at all?

[Polycarp_fan]

On that wedding pavilion issue -- if this is the story out of New Jersey, it's a bizarre situation. The town was originally founded by the Methodist Episcopal Church as a seaside retreat center. Later it became incorporated as a community and lost its relationship with the Methodist Church (except, of course, there was a local congregation with a building there). The pavilion was on town land, belonged to the town, but had largely been used by the church, which mistakenly felt it had some authority over it. The church was not forced to do anything except give up its erroneous claim to control what could be done in a town-owned facility.

Several less-than-honest "family values" websites have claimed this as a case of gays forcing a church to do something. It wasn't (other than their being told that their predominant use of the town's pavilion didn't give them exclusive rights to say who could or could not be married there).

Based on the Gospel and Apostolic testimony, a Church would be far less than honest to celebrate an atheist or, same-gender marriage. No different than some Molech worshippers asking a Pastor to bless their way of life and his Church to be used for a service marking a commitment to abomination.

 

[Pliny the Elder]

Strange that you are a member of a christian message board then. Did someone drag you here and force you to sign up?

I am here because I have never understood the Christian mentality which is very strange and backwards to me so I wanted to see it up close and personal as it were and an atheist friend of mine pointed me here.

 

[Angel4Truth]

I am here because I have never understood the Christian mentality which is very strange and backwards to me so I wanted to see it up close and personal as it were and an atheist friend of mine pointed me here.

My question was directed at the one who said they wish they didnt have to interact with christians yet they are here.

 

[geekgirlkelli]

Strange that you are a member of a christian message board then. Did someone drag you here and force you to sign up?

Hey, you wanna be in my business, I'll be in yours. Besides, I didn't originally come [back] here for any reason other than I was searching again after I had been rejected by the church for coming out five years ago. But after getting smacked around by fundies on the WWMC board and in real life again, I came to a conclusion, and it wasn't that I needed church again, for sure.

 

[geekgirlkelli]

Any proof that this happens?

Ummm, hello? You think I would just post that as an offhanded comment? It happened to me and my kids personally. Did you not see the pic?

Unfortunatley, Gay Activists have chosen the public school system and legislative process to go after kids for supporting a lifestyle most have no clue about the dangers of trying. Most of whom do not have Gay, Lesbian or Bi-Sexual parents and should be left alone. But, are still forced to submit to ONLY a gay/liberal agenda no matter what or how decent Christian families ask the GLBT activists to stop.

Christians shouldn't have to engage homosexuals at all, but in a decadent and hedonistic society such as America 2008, this unfortunate occurence is all too common. Better to be prepared to live for Christ even under dire conditions and prepare your children to reject the advances of those seeking initiates into an unacceptable way of life. Christ Jesus and His Apostles did not leave this topic unmentioned, and did say to avoid those that live a life antithetical to Christian truth.

You know, it's funny. I have yet to meet a gay person who tries to recruit anyone. It's rhetoric and BS spread by the Christian right. As my friend and fellow activist Kitty Lambert says "We don't get toaster ovens [or anything else] for converting anyone..."

 

[Pliny the Elder]

My question was directed at the one who said they wish they didnt have to interact with christians yet they are here.

I was just trying to give a reference as to why some atheists come on boards like this, we seriously cannot believe that there are people that believe this stuff.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Hey, you wanna be in my business, I'll be in yours. Besides, I didn't originally come [back] here for any reason other than I was searching again after I had been rejected by the church for coming out five years ago.

There's far more in being "rejected" by a Church then just saying you have same-gender attractions.

But after getting smacked around by fundies on the WWMC board and in real life again, I came to a conclusion, and it wasn't that I needed church again, for sure.

There are many liberal and progressive Churches that have no problem at all about gay culture. Why seek out Bible-affirming Christians and their Churches to "come out" to?

 

[geekgirlkelli]

There's far more in being "rejected" by a Church then just saying you have same-gender attractions.



There are many liberal and progressive Churches that have no problem at all about gay culture. Why seek out Bible-affirming Christians and their Churches to "come out" to?

Before judging someone, how about finding out a little about their background? I was a very conservative, born-again believer who attended Baptist and then Pentecostal Holiness and Foursquare churches until I decided to be true to myself. I was booted out of the church and ostracized at that point. Get it now?

 

[Pliny the Elder]

Before judging someone, how about finding out a little about their background? I was a very conservative, born-again believer who attended Baptist and then Pentecostal Holiness and Foursquare churches until I decided to be true to myself. I was booted out of the church and ostracized at that point. Get it now?

I just don't understand how a church or anyone else could treat a human being like that.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I was just trying to give a reference as to why some atheists come on boards like this, we seriously cannot believe that there are people that believe this stuff.

Tough. Go find a freethinker or skeptic club to rail and rant with each other about the woes of believing that life is not a guess added onto an accident.

It is equally impossible for people that used to believe atheism was of value, that did their own research and now can no longer ever rationalize the absurd notion that everything is just some random accidents bumping into some other accidents and becoming the universe we exist in and of.

But this thread is about the intense conflict between Christians and having to support and celebrat those that enjoy homosexuality, when it is antithetical to the Gospel and Apostolic witness. THAT IS TO SAY The Bible.

Step outside your blind hatred of Christians for a moment and compare the texts of the New Testament to what homosexuals are demanding. There is no reason that Christians should ever interact with the segment of society that promotes homosexuality, other than, enduring for a time what we have to put up with to get good grades in public schools.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Hey, you wanna be in my business, I'll be in yours. Besides, I didn't originally come [back] here for any reason other than I was searching again after I had been rejected by the church for coming out five years ago. But after getting smacked around by fundies on the WWMC board and in real life again, I came to a conclusion, and it wasn't that I needed church again, for sure.

No one is in your buisness you came here yourself. You can click that little x at the top of your screen or click on "log out" and boom you dont have to interact with us.

 

[geekgirlkelli]

I just don't understand how a church or anyone else could treat a human being like that.

I hear ya. Lemme tell you, you find out who your friends are when you come out.

It isn't all that bad though, really. You know that verse about all things working together for good? Well, when I came out, it was the final thing that made me completely detach myself from fundamentalist Christianity, which was definitely a good thing. I am WAY happier now than I ever was before.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I just don't understand how a church or anyone else could treat a human being like that.

Kicking someone out of a Church is not exactly all that difficult to agree with.

If I was in your freethinker club promoting Christ Jesus as the Creator of the universe, sooner or later, you guys would get me to leave.

Please note, that a person kicked out of one Church has many others to choose to join.

 

[geekgirlkelli]

No one is in your buisness you came here yourself. You can click that little x at the top of your screen or click on "log out" and boom you dont have to interact with us.

Don't like me being here? Too bad, I guess it sucks to be you.

 

[Pliny the Elder]

No one is in your buisness you came here yourself. You can click that little x at the top of your screen or click on "log out" and boom you dont have to interact with us.

Actually they do because Christians are intolerant of those that disagree with them and then they want control all of those same people. This has made many of us who were previously blind to it to sit up and take notice of the awful way Christians are trying to turn the world into a theocracy and we have had enough and want to put an end to it once and for all.

 

[geekgirlkelli]

Kicking someone out of a Church is not exactly all that difficult to agree with.

If I was in your freethinker club promoting Christ Jesus as the Creator of the universe, sooner or later, you guys would get me to leave.

Please note, that a person kicked out of one Church has many others to choose to join.

LOL, you are pretty funny. Is this part of your nightly standup routine?

 

[geekgirlkelli]

Actually they do because Christians are intolerant of those that disagree with them and then they want control all of those same people. This has made many of us who were previously blind to it to sit up and take notice of the awful way Christians are trying to turn the world into a theocracy and we have had enough and want to put an end to it once and for all.

'Zactly!

 

[Angel4Truth]

Don't like me being here? Too bad, I guess it sucks to be you.

Sweetie its you who said you wished you never had to interact with a christian again in your life not me. Its you who say it while purposely coming to a christian forum.

If i didnt like talking to atheists and skeptics and mockers and ranters and wished that i never had to see another one - then this place would be the last forum i would enter on this forum because most rational people who dont want to be somewhere and can do something about it - take the option to do something about it - instead of complaining like they cant do anything about it.

But then some people just like to complain too dont they?

 

[Pliny the Elder]

'Zactly!

One of my best friends in the entire world is lesbian and I have witnessed first hand what she has had to endure and that is why I decided I cannot sit on the sidelines and allow this to happen, she is a very special HUMAN BEING and deserves to be treated as such just as you and all others deserves to be.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Actually they do because Christians are intolerant of those that disagree with them and then they want control all of those same people. This has made many of us who were previously blind to it to sit up and take notice of the awful way Christians are trying to turn the world into a theocracy and we have had enough and want to put an end to it once and for all.

You think you can change christianity because you can complain about it on a web forum? God is bigger than anyone here.