Nicene Creed -- what's yer beef?

[LittleLambofJesus]

Dear LLOJ,

An interesting point. The Copts in Egypt use an Arabic version of the Bible. Here in the UK we use the NKJV.

peace,

Anglian

Greetings Anglian. The NKJV and NASB appear to be a favorite of more westernized Christians but even those translations are rather "lacking" in relation to the major Greek and Hebrew texts.

When translating the Jewish/Hebrew book of Revelation, I came across so many variances between the 3 major greek texts, it was like putting a jigsaw puzzle together.

I plan on putting up my translation of it on the Christian scriptures board as soon as I "refine" it. It will be word-for-word exactly how it is in the Greek. Thoughts?

Revelation 1:1 An-un-covering of Jesus Christ which gives to him, the God, to show to His bond-servants which-things is binding to be becoming in swiftness. And He signifies commissioning thru the messenger of Him to the bondservants of Him, John.

Textus Rec.) Revelation 1:1 apokaluyiV ihsou cristou hn edwken autw o qeoV deixai toiV douloiV autou a dei genesqai en tacei kai eshmanen aposteilaV dia tou aggelou autou tw doulw autou iwannh

 

[Tonks]

Do you speak / read / understand Koine? That would be my first question. Second questions would be - how long have you understood the language and how did you learn?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Do you speak / read / understand Koine? That would be my first question. Second questions would be - how long have you understood the language and how did you learn?

Greetings Tonks? Do RCs know and speak the Koine/Transliterated greek? I do study it and use online resources for my studies and when I did my translation of the highly symbolic Jewish/Hebrew book of Revelation, I was carefull to use each and every word shown in the Greek text word for word and also refer to the Hebrew OT/OC wording of certain words used in the NT/NC.

Before you or your Denomination attempt to discredit me concerning my knowledge of greek or hebrew, first ask yourself and your own Denomination the same question. Peace.

http://www.scripture4all.org/

http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htm

ByzMaj) Revelation 1:1 apokaluyiV ihsou cristou hn edwken autw o qeoV deixai toiV douloiV autou a dei genesqai en tacei kai eshmanen aposteilaV dia tou aggelou autou tw doulw autou iwannh

W-H) Revelation 1:1 apokaluyiV ihsou cristou hn edwken autw o qeoV deixai toiV douloiV autou a dei genesqai en tacei kai eshmanen aposteilaV dia tou aggelou autou tw doulw autou iwannh

TexRec) Revelation 1:1 apokaluyiV ihsou cristou hn edwken autw o qeoV deixai toiV douloiV autou a dei genesqai en tacei kai eshmanen aposteilaV dia tou aggelou autou tw doulw autou iwannh

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7167075&page=3
Revelation Chapter 1 Verses

 

[Tonks]

Greetings Tonks? Do RCs know and speak the Koine/Transliterated greek? I do study it and use online resources for my studies and when I did my translation of the highly symbolic Jewish/Hebrew book of Revelation, I was carefull to use each and every word shown in the Greek text word for word and also refer to the Hebrew OT/OC wording of certain words used in the NT/NC.

Before you or your Denomination attempt to discredit me concerning my knowledge of greek or hebrew, first ask yourself and your own Denomination the same question. Peace.

This has nothing to do with me or the Catholic Church. If someone presents a translation those are standard questions to be asked. Say, for example, you went to a publisher. They'd ask the same things.

Don't shoot the messenger. If you're doing a translation the methods and knowledge should be easily defensible.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This has nothing to do with me or the Catholic Church. If someone presents a translation those are standard questions to be asked. Say, for example, you went to a publisher. They'd ask the same things.

Don't shoot the messenger. If you're doing a translation the methods and knowledge should be easily defensible.

Yes and that goes with anyone or group of Translators that translate the Bible.....

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7302842
What Bible Translation Do You Use?

 

[Tonks]

Which is why I asked. This is about your translation...not Jerome's or Tyndale's...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Which is why I asked. This is about your translation...not Jerome's or Tyndale's...

Why should I defend myself to YOU!?

 

[Tonks]

I'm asking you to defend your translation. That's all. Once you post it I'm sure that folks will have questions.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I'm asking you to defend your translation. That's all. Once you post it I'm sure that folks will have questions.

Nope, as you are singling me out and for another, I am under no obligation to defend myself to you or any others concerning how I translate the Bible.
So I would ask that you refrain from bringing it up again or look at what I have on this thread and ask me questions about it there. Thanks and peace........

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7167075&page=3
Revelation Chapter 1 Verses

Revelation 12:1 And Sign, great was seen in the heaven a Woman having been about-cast/peri-beblhmenh <4016> (5772) the sun and the moon underneath of the feet of her

Reve 17:4 And the Woman was having been about-cast/peri-beblhmenh <4016> (5772) purple and scarlet and having been gilded to gold and stone, precious, and pearls,

 

[Polycarp1]

I've always enjoyed LLOJ's Bible quotes. Jokingly (and not at all insultingly) I refer to it as "the Yoda Revised Version" because the sense of it one can undersand, but backwards iusually it reads!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I've always enjoyed LLOJ's Bible quotes. Jokingly (and not at all insultingly) I refer to it as "the Yoda Revised Version" because the sense of it one can undersand, but backwards iusually it reads!

An atheist told me the same thing one time

"Slimy?! mudhole?! My home this is!"

 

[Ave Maria]

I have no problem with the Nicene Creed. In fact, I agree with it.

 

[Tonks]

Nope, as you are singling me out and for another, I am under no obligation to defend myself to you or any others concerning how I translate the Bible.

Actually, you brought it up which is why I asked. If you can't defend your translation it probably isn't terribly good.

At any rate, before you start hauling off about Catholicism again I suggest you check my icon.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Actually, you brought it up which is why I asked. If you can't defend your translation it probably isn't terribly good.

At any rate, before you start hauling off about Catholicism again I suggest you check my icon.

Greetings. Actually I could care less what you yourself think of my translation......Peace.

Zechariah 13:5 And he says 'Not a-prophet I, man tilling ground/0127 'adamah I, that adam he-caused-me-to-acquire/07069 qanah from youth of me".
And he says to him: "what the smitings/04347 makkah, these, between hands of thee"? And he says "which I was smitten/05221 nakah House of lovers/0157 'ahab of me".

 

[Tonks]

Guess that is what happens with a "pick and choose" translation.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Guess that is what happens with a "pick and choose" translation.

I never told you to pick mine. all I said/mentioned was I was doing my own translation.....

Daniel 11:14 And in times, those, many-ones shall stand on king of the south: and sons of robbers/06530 p@riyts of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish of vision and they stumble

Matthew 21:13 And He is saying unto them "It has been written 'My House a House of prayer shall be being called ye yet it are making a den/cave of robbers/lhstwn <3027> .'" [Jeremiah 7:11/Daniel 11:14]

 

[DeaconDean]

Well, friends, I was asked what my beef was with the Nicene Creed.

I stated it.

I was accused of every time I say I believe something, that is my creed.

SO be it.

Tonks, I guess you really wasn't interested in links I supplied and the reasons behind it.

Since I'm obviously wrong in everything I posted, to insure I don't "taint" anything, I shall delete all my posts in a very short time.

I'm sorry that I have an opinion.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Tonks]

Here we go again...another round of deletions. You're, likewise, assuming that I didn't read the links.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

LLOJ unsubscribes from thread....bye bye

 

[DeaconDean]

LLOJ unsubscribes from thread....bye bye

Same here.

God Bless

Till all are one.