World's oldest temple found in Turkey

[Pwnzerfaust]

An 11,000-year-old structure, possibly a temple, was found in Turkey recently. It consisted of various limestone megaliths arranged in circles, carved and arranged by people with stone tool. Quite impressive if you ask me.

Yet more evidence that the 6,000-year-old Earth propounded by YECs is nonsense.

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[Washington]

Yeah, sure ! ! Just look who's asserting that date. Klaus Schmidt, a German archaeologist. You know what archaeologists are don't you? S c i e n t i s t s. And as we all know, scientists almost to a man are evilutionists. So it was only a matter of time before one of them would find something to "date" earlier than 4004 B. C.

 

[Pwnzerfaust]

Yeah, sure ! ! Just look who's asserting that date. Klaus Schmidt, a German archaeologist. You know what archaeologists are don't you? S c i e n t i s t s. And as we all know, scientists almost to a man are evilutionists. So it was only a matter of time before one of them would find something to "date" earlier than 4004 B. C.

Oh, you're so right, we can't trust scientists with anything. I mean it's not like they've actually done anything for mankind, right?!

 

[Washington]

Oh, you're so right, we can't trust scientists with anything. I mean it's not like they've actually done anything for mankind, right?!

POE'S LAW​

"Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing"

 

[Pwnzerfaust]

POE'S LAW​

"Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing"

Haha yeah, that's what I had in mind, so I added the smiley thingy. Don't want to end up on FSTDT, heh.

 

[AV1611VET]

An 11,000-year-old structure, possibly a temple, was found in Turkey recently. It consisted of various limestone megaliths arranged in circles, carved and arranged by people with stone tool. Quite impressive if you ask me.

Yet more evidence that the 6,000-year-old Earth propounded by YECs is nonsense.

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How did they come to the interpretation that the temple is 11,000 years old?

 

[Split Rock]

How did they come to the interpretation that the temple is 11,000 years old?

They used a really old book, and added up all the genealogies in it.

 

[Cabal]

They used a really old book, and added up all the genealogies in it.

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But...doesn't that mean the book would have to be older than the Bible too? I..I...

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[AV1611VET]

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If they found a temple made of zircon, wouldn't they say it is the oldest temple on earth?

 

[Cabal]

If they found a temple made of zircon, wouldn't they say it is the oldest temple on earth?

I've no idea how they dated the actual temple itself. And I know zircon can be old, but I think there are plenty of older rocks that aren't as old that would suffice.

 

[Naraoia]

If they found a temple made of zircon, wouldn't they say it is the oldest temple on earth?

Eh... how is the type of rock used to build a temple relevant to its age? Radio-dating a rock can only tell you when the rock was formed, which is seldom when it's used for building... Archaeological sites are dated using organic remains, whose [sup]14[/sup]C clocks were set to zero somewhat closer to the time the place was used.

 

[Naraoia]

I've no idea how they dated the actual temple itself. And I know zircon can be old, but I think there are plenty of older rocks that aren't as old that would suffice.

Well, I skimmed the article, which says

The archaeologists did find evidence of tool use, including stone hammers and blades. And because those artifacts closely resemble others from nearby sites previously carbon-dated to about 9000 B.C., Schmidt and co-workers estimate that Gobekli Tepe's stone structures are the same age. Limited carbon dating undertaken by Schmidt at the site confirms this assessment.

Not much, but it definitely wasn't the stones

 

[AV1611VET]

I've no idea how they dated the actual temple itself.

Good, then I'll just assume this 11,000-year-old temple is made of age-embedded rock; and the Bible still stands as accurate.

There's a big difference between an 11,000-year-old temple, and a temple that's been there 11,000 years.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not much, but it definitely wasn't the stones

And if I had tools made of Zircon, would that make my toolbox 4.404 billion years old?

 

[Cabal]

Good, then I'll just assume this 11,000-year-old temple is made of age-embedded rock; and the Bible still stands as accurate.

There's a big difference between an 11,000-year-old temple, and a temple that's been there 11,000 years.

Right, because asking someone who literally has nothing to do either with this project (or the field of archaeology as a whole) about whether or not a certain type of rock (that has little or nothing to do with the actual date of construction) CLEARLY demonstrates embedded age works. A rock that wasn't even mentioned in the article.

Anyway, didn't you guys have a 9000 thousand year old tree to explain? We're still 2 for 0 on stuff that pwns Usher. Or maybe I should call these things "stuff that somehow survives a forty day deluge."

 

[Naraoia]

And if I had tools made of Zircon, would that make my toolbox 4.404 billion years old?

They don't date the stone. The same reasoning that applies to stone temples also applies to stone tools (that is, people don't generally mould axes out of freshly erupted lava...) They carbon-date ORGANIC remains. (In the tool context, the wooden haft of a stone axe is one example I can think of)

ETA: Oh yeah, I suppose you could have tools made of 4.4 billion years old zircon (if there was enough 4.4 byo zircon on earth). That doesn't mean that the tools would be 4.4 billion years old, though. Object =/= stuff it's made of.

 

[Pwnzerfaust]

I was wondering when AV would pop in with his "embedded age" nonsense.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Good, then I'll just assume this 11,000-year-old temple is made of age-embedded rock; and the Bible still stands as accurate.

There's a big difference between an 11,000-year-old temple, and a temple that's been there 11,000 years.

Only to those, such as yourself, with both feet firmly planted in the magical world.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I was wondering when AV would pop in with his "embedded age" nonsense.

It was more or less inevitable, wasn't it?

 

[dad]

An 11,000-year-old structure, possibly a temple, was found in Turkey recently. It consisted of various limestone megaliths arranged in circles, carved and arranged by people with stone tool. Quite impressive if you ask me.

Yet more evidence that the 6,000-year-old Earth propounded by YECs is nonsense.

[link]

Speaking of nonsense, I notice neither you nor your little article explaned where the dates came from, exactly! I also notice this was way up high on a hillside or mountain, maybe shortly after the flood? Your dates are wrong. This is news??