How Homophobic Are You?

[Andreusz]

Come, join us in declaring the sin of homosexuality for what it truly is--a demonic counterfeit for love.

There's nothing in the least bit counterfeit about the love I feel for my boyfriend. It's real love. I think you need to get to know some homosexual people and see how they really live, rather than speaking out of ignorance and prejudice.

 

[Andreusz]

The Scriptures tell us that even those who agree with those who do these things are abominable as well.

Remember reading Romans in all your scholarly pursuits? I know I do...

Romans 1:32
who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Ooh yippee, more people for you to hate!

 

[Floatingaxe]

Hate? No hate from me, sir.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Just as I can and do respect yours. I don't agree with it of course but that's ok I don't assert that one must believe as I do.

An illuminated and refreshing position. Nice to meet you.

 

[Floatingaxe]

There's nothing in the least bit counterfeit about the love I feel for my boyfriend. It's real love. I think you need to get to know some homosexual people and see how they really live, rather than speaking out of ignorance and prejudice.

It's not ignorance and prejudice to adhere to righteousness in God. He is the source of all knowledge and wisdom and love. He teaches us about true love and how we express physical love with our mates he provides for us from among the opposite sex as He has designed it.

Speaking out of ignorance of Him and prejudice toward His people is what is happening here.

Try getting to know some real Christians and see how we really live! It's a blast! The goodness of God is freeing, indeed!

 

[Andreusz]

I calls 'em as I sees 'em. It is precisely like a child's mantra of, "Why, why, why?" I'm not being rude.

In other words, you can't answer the question, and in order to hide this, you mock the questioner. However, this technique does not fool the judicious.

You are not aware of the sacrifice that Jesus made for your sin? Jesus opted to be beaten beyond recognition and to be jeered at and spat upon, and finally nailed, naked to a cross, bleeding and broken for you so that you could have the forgiveness of God and a relationship with Him. He gives you a life.

Prove it.

God gives us a conscience for a reason,

Does he give us intelligence for a reason?

and on top of that, the Holy Spirit shows us what sin is. Reading the Bible is the basic way in which you can know the particulars. Try it.

I have read the Bible from cover to cover several times, down to the last begat. I see no more reason for believing any of it than for believing that Homer's Iliad is the inspired word of the gods.

Evidence is found at the cross. It is arrogance that needs testable propositions (and other big words like that).

The scientific temperament needs testable propositions. Why does God create people who have such temperaments if he's not prepared to provide evidence that will satisfy them? Looks like he's simply setting traps for us, knowing that we'll end up in eternal torment. I really don't understand why anyone worships the horrible deity described in the Bible.

I am sorry that you struggle with my vocabulary.

We live by faith. It is a real thing.

The 9/11 plane hijackers lived by faith. Do you have any reason whatsoever for claiming that your faith is correct while theirs wasn't?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

They all do. Men wanting sex with men is waning a homosexual union not a herosexual one, or are you suggesting homosexual is not same-sex attraction? I think you will find the dictionary says it is.

I'm suggesting that homosexual UNION means marriage/marriage like relationship. The few Bible verses that actually refer to male+male intimacy in context are not refering to marriage like relationships, but rather paederastic and/or pagan idolatrous practices. The two do not equate.

Homosexual unions are pagan idolatry according to Leviticus 18 & 20, and Romans 1

Wrong, Leviticus condemns the pagan idolatrous practice of homosexual temple prostitution, which is different to homosexual unions, marriage like relationships, or mutually consentual, monogomous same sex relationhips. Pick a phrase you like, and lets stop goal post shifting and deliberately missunderstanding, shall we?

That’s nonsense, the Bible countenances man and woman in marriage so that’s marriage, marriage is always what you would call heterosexual. The Bible condemns same-sex unions which is what you call homosexual unions.

The Bible countenances marriages. It never says that marriages MUST consist of one man, one woman.

The Bible does NOT condemn same sex UNIONS, it never mentions them. What it mentions are homosexual pagan idolatrous practices, which, while they involve homosexual sex, are NOT a homosexual union.

So the terms heterosexual and homosexual that you use are inaccurate and unhelpful when understanding the Bible. They are gay and lesbian thinking not Godly and Biblical.

Got anything other than your pre-existing prejudices to support this blatantly and intentionally offensive claim?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

In can read the Greek, I am well read on the topic, and homoeroticism is condemned in no uncertain terms. That is a fact, and it is not going away because it makes liberals pout.



It is not a source of pride or shame. I was simply reporting the results of the quiz.

Chapter and verse, in context, where homoeroticism, rather than homosexual temple idolatry, is condemned?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

In other words, you can't answer the question, and in order to hide this, you mock the questioner. However, this technique does not fool the judicious.

You get used to it after a while.

 

[Floatingaxe]

In other words, you can't answer the question, and in order to hide this, you mock the questioner. However, this technique does not fool the judicious.

I did answer.

Prove it.

God has proven His love for you already. Either you accept it or reject it by faith.

Does he give us intelligence for a reason?

Yep, and not to waste it on devilishness.

I have read the Bible from cover to cover several times, down to the last begat. I see no more reason for believing any of it than for believing that Homer's Iliad is the inspired word of the gods.

When people say things like that, it tells me that God is either not calling them to repentance, or that they have hard hearts as yet.

The scientific temperament needs testable propositions. Why does God create people who have such temperaments if he's not prepared to provide evidence that will satisfy them? Looks like he's simply setting traps for us, knowing that we'll end up in eternal torment. I really don't understand why anyone worships the horrible deity described in the Bible.

I am sorry that you struggle with my vocabulary.

Millions of people who have need of serious answers to certain questions will find it when they seek God. He is faithful to provide them! ALWAYS!

God doesn't set traps for anyone! He opens His arms wide in love and acceptance to you! He loves you beyond belief!

The 9/11 plane hijackers lived by faith. Do you have any reason whatsoever for claiming that your faith is correct while theirs wasn't?

Yes. Their demon god told them lies. My Jehovah God speaks only truth in unfathomable love to me--and to you.His promises are all good, and He abides by His word. He promises to walk with us through our lives in thick and thin. And He does! He changes lives!

Allah doesn't love anyone and the Koran never says it does. It is a demon of hatred.

 

[Andreusz]

I did answer.


God has proven His love for you already. Either you accept it or reject it by faith.

Yep, and not to waste it on devilishness.

When people say things like that, it tells me that God is either not calling them to repentance, or that they have hard hearts as yet.

Millions of people who have need of serious answers to certain questions will find it when they seek God. He is faithful to provide them! ALWAYS!

God doesn't set traps for anyone! He opens His arms wide in love and acceptance to you! He loves you beyond belief!


Yes. Their demon god told them lies. My Jehovah God speaks only truth in unfathomable love to me--and to you.His promises are all good, and He abides by His word. He promises to walk with us through our lives in thick and thin. And He does! He changes lives!

Allah doesn't love anyone and the Koran never says it does. It is a demon of hatred.

I don't think there is any point in our continuing to debate. Our worldviews are so different, I don't think it is remotely possible for us to understand each other.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I don't think there is any point in our continuing to debate. Our worldviews are so different, I don't think it is remotely possible for us to understand each other.

I have no trouble understanding you. People aren't born Christians.


Take a look. This is Theology/Christian Philosophy & Ethics.

We'll miss you.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

I know. But it is still an anti-God stance.

Yes, and I have no qualms about that: I freely admit to not being a Christian. I am not the hypocrit.

However, you continue to assert your beliefs as True Christian™ beliefs, despite the fact that your error has been repeatedly shown.

 

[kiwimac]

Yes. Their demon god told them lies. My Jehovah God speaks only truth in unfathomable love to me--and to you.His promises are all good, and He abides by His word. He promises to walk with us through our lives in thick and thin. And He does! He changes lives!

Allah doesn't love anyone and the Koran never says it does. It is a demon of hatred.

Are you completely unaware that the word 'Allah' simply means 'God?' Arab Christians / Jews use the word when reading the Bible and when praying. This kind of comment is both tendentious and prejudiced.

 

[HaloHope]

There's nothing in the least bit counterfeit about the love I feel for my boyfriend. It's real love. I think you need to get to know some homosexual people and see how they really live, rather than speaking out of ignorance and prejudice.

Agreed.

I'm constantly tired of people claiming the love my partner and I share of being "evil" and "corrupt" and the like too. It's extremely offensive, rude and downright hateful if im honest with you, I wouldnt cuss down anyone elses relationship and It's beyond me how anyone dare think they have the right to do it to mine.

I love my partner far more than I would be capable of loving a guy. She means the world to me and I'd happily give my life for her. We are infinately compatible and I can never and will never see any reason our relationship is wrong when we are commited together for life.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Yes, and I have no qualms about that: I freely admit to not being a Christian. I am not the hypocrit.

However, you continue to assert your beliefs as True Christian™ beliefs, despite the fact that your error has been repeatedly shown.

Hypocrite? Right. Pentagram speaks volumes.

Anyhoo...I have spoken no error regarding Christianity.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Are you completely unaware that the word 'Allah' simply means 'God?' Arab Christians / Jews use the word when reading the Bible and when praying. This kind of comment is both tendentious and prejudiced.
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Do you really wish to hijack this thread?? Huh?

I know what Allah stands for to a Muslim--it isn't Jehovah.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Agreed.

I'm constantly tired of people claiming the love my partner and I share of being "evil" and "corrupt" and the like too. It's extremely offensive, rude and downright hateful if im honest with you, I wouldnt cuss down anyone elses relationship and It's beyond me how anyone dare think they have the right to do it to mine.

I love my partner far more than I would be capable of loving a guy. She means the world to me and I'd happily give my life for her. We are infinately compatible and I can never and will never see any reason our relationship is wrong when we are commited together for life.

That's nice, Halo, dear...

But it is sin.

 

[HaloHope]

That's nice, Halo, dear...

But it is sin.

Why?
"Because God says!"
Why? Where?
"Because God SAYS!"
BUT WHY!


FA we will never get anywhere.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Why?
"Because God says!"
Why? Where?
"Because God SAYS!"
BUT WHY!


FA we will never get anywhere.

Halo, that is your very own choice. It matters not that you disagree with God, He is God. He said it. It stands.