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Sans Scripture, Evolution?
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I computed it myself, so it's now officially an Independent Fundamentalist interpretation ---
Great, so now you understand why Ussher was wrong. Nothing in the bible tells us these geneaologies are complete, particularly if you understand the etymology of the hebrew word meaning begat.
It is vitally important to read the original copies of the books of the bible rather than our current translations and trans-literations.
This is where we diverge. You are happy to have faith in an interpretation. I would rather know for sure that I am correct.
So, Adam and Eve didn't eat? The bible clearly indicates otherwise. Eating destroys living cells; therefore, there was death.
He may have ceased creating the physical processes, but the processes could continue. You assume that evolution continuing would mean that God had a hand in every instance of evolution - with which I disagree.
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Scientists "back then" taught evolution even with the Bible -- and still do.
But clinging on to "sacred" mythology has hindered scientific knowledge in many fields -- not just biology.
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I computed it myself, so it's now officially an Independent Fundamentalist interpretation ---
Then you "independently" made the same error the Irish Bishop did -- assuming the numbers involved were complete and accurate just because some pastor told you they came from God.
A reason to worship such a cowardly God.
Tuckered Himself out, did He? Omnipotence doesn't last as long as one might think.
And continues to do so even now -- if you wish to worship a God who's thrown in the towel on His creation, you go right ahead.
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WRONG. From Genesis 1:
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Only Fundies think that Ignorance is Holy.--- guilty on both counts.
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No, it wouldn't --- I already [somewhat] agree that the earth is 4.57 billion years old.
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I was actually going to make the point that if this is embedded history without age, then we have the Omphalos Hypothesis; but I think Psudopod is trying to get me to say that this earth is 4.57 billion years old because it grew that old, and I don't believe that.
Embedded Age is age w/o growth.
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Embedded age means a deceptive, lying god. Is that your god, AV?
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The problem is that Age is time + history; Age w/o history or time is Omphalos.
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No --- my God documented what He did, when He did it, where He did it, why He did it, how He did it, and who the eyewitnesses were; and even preserves that Documentation for everyone to read.
How about yours?
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No, Omphalos is embedded history --- a false history that never occurred.
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Too bad not a word of it is trustworthy -- if a mere mortal scientist was caught red-handed tampering with his experiment in order to match up with his writings, he'd be out of a job.
I gues we just hold God to a higher standard.
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